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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 00:36 GMT
#14
Aww man was doctor ...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 00:41 GMT
#19
My bad.

Roleblocks should always be announced. So should doctor saves if you are saved.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 00:58 GMT
#25
Hi jabber, what kind of IRL games did you play (setup, roles etc.)?

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:25 GMT
#36
Pressure from whom sqrt?

P.s. aww yss DnD
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:29 GMT
#39
Ah. We've all been there before.

Around what game phase would you say you are most comfortable / "in the zone"?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:41 GMT
#45
Same, just out of ideas of how to jumpstart town right now.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:45 GMT
#47
Yup. I believe it hits vulture next. If you change races in your profile, you can cycle to other stuff (hydra and dragoon I think?).

But please don't do this midgame, since I tend to correspond avatars to people, sometimes more than their names.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:47 GMT
#54
Ooh here's something.

What's your guys take on Alakaslam's style of posting?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#58
On May 27 2014 10:48 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 10:47 slOosh wrote:
Ooh here's something.

What's your guys take on Alakaslam's style of posting?

confusing for the sake of being confusing
valid strategy I suppose

Valid in what sense?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:09 GMT
#222
Seems straightforward.

##Vote: jabberwockzerg
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:20 GMT
#226
On May 27 2014 15:31 fuba wrote:
But the last game was Classroom, the game that got remade. And since jabber was scum in that game, he knew that Chrom wasn't. Which means that he knew chrom wasn't scum, but suggested that possibility anyway. While I can't give an exact reason for scum|jabber to lie, I don't see any reason for town|jabber to.

...Though now that I think of it, unless the scumteam is the exact three people it was last time, then jabber would be incredibly unlikely to intentionally lie about who was on it, since at least one scum from last game would be town this game and would point out that he's lying. So either this was just a mistake on his part or I'm misunderstanding some part of the interaction. Either way, I'm pretty sure I've talked myself out of this...

##Unvote

On May 27 2014 21:37 fuba wrote:
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On May 27 2014 21:07 Chromatically wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:
On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them


I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly

I don't like this choice of words so soon after you voted him, though. This makes it seem like you know he is town.


On May 27 2014 15:31 fuba wrote:
But the last game was Classroom, the game that got remade. And since jabber was scum in that game, he knew that Chrom wasn't. Which means that he knew chrom wasn't scum, but suggested that possibility anyway. While I can't give an exact reason for scum|jabber to lie, I don't see any reason for town|jabber to.

...Though now that I think of it, unless the scumteam is the exact three people it was last time, then jabber would be incredibly unlikely to intentionally lie about who was on it, since at least one scum from last game would be town this game and would point out that he's lying. So either this was just a mistake on his part or I'm misunderstanding some part of the interaction. Either way, I'm pretty sure I've talked myself out of this...

##Unvote

I disagree with this because it doesn't make sense as either alignment. It's clearly a bad move for town, and also for scum because it serves no purpose other than to make yourself look suspicious. However, it's more likely to come from scum because scum has factors like nervousness, wanting to look good/push something, artificial reads, etc that would cause them to slip up and lie for no reason.

I don't really see scum as more likely to post something like that so carelessly, particularly because I can see no reason to do so. It seems like too much oversight with no payoff.

On May 27 2014 21:42 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I'll do another read through the thread when I have time after class. The lynch just seems wrong to me :S

On May 28 2014 00:50 fuba wrote:
##Vote: jabberwockzerg


What changed?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:26 GMT
#229
On May 28 2014 02:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 28 2014 02:09 slOosh wrote:
Seems straightforward.

##Vote: jabberwockzerg


Hi there slOosh.

You are okay with this lynch.

Why?

And do you have anything else to comment?


On May 27 2014 11:20 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Counter point: he could have been super into last game because he was mafia, and isn't as into being vanilla town.

On May 27 2014 11:21 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Definitely leaving towards scum though

Calls Chrom scum, but also maybe town, for no reason. Very wishy washy, but interested in something of this Chrom lynch.

I think combined with other different aspects brought up thus far, this is a very solid D1 lynch.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#232
On May 28 2014 02:31 fuba wrote:
Though what i'd said before (about an intentional lie being caught by his scummates) had slipped my mind. The entire situation is a ball of confusion.

?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#236
Oh ... right. Yea. Bleh.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 17:56 GMT
#237
On May 27 2014 17:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Meta is useless, and I will be proof within 16 hours.

Anything yet?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 18:01 GMT
#239
On May 28 2014 02:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 02:09 slOosh wrote:
Seems straightforward.

##Vote: jabberwockzerg

##Vote: jabberwockzerg

How is it straightforward for you when you dismissed the whole thing as meta?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 18:06 GMT
#244
On May 27 2014 17:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Meta is useless, and I will be proof within 16 hours.

This happens when people are talking about the case. You chose not to comment on it at all despite his play being "illogical to a clear extreme", and only now you jump on?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2014 18:12 GMT
#248
On May 28 2014 03:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 03:06 slOosh wrote:
On May 27 2014 17:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Meta is useless, and I will be proof within 16 hours.

This happens when people are talking about the case. You chose not to comment on it at all despite his play being "illogical to a clear extreme", and only now you jump on?


By meta, isnt slam talking about his own meta?

Im not sure how this statement refers to the case at hand.

If that's the case, then the second applies: He chose not to comment on it at all. The one post he made was "don't meta me". It's self concerned, and also avoiding the issue.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 04:55 GMT
#422
On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:
If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain.

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On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much.

You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta.


The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people.


Palmar could you please explain your MZ read more?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 17:31 GMT
#473
On May 28 2014 16:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 13:55 slOosh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:
If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain.

On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much.

You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta.


The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people.


Palmar could you please explain your MZ read more?

Which part of it do you not get?

"If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand."

This is basically saying

"If you don't elaborate, you're acting like mafia".

When in reality if MZ is town, he shouldn't care whether or not i acts like mafia, but if he is mafia. If MZ is town and thinks i is town his logical explanation should be

"If you don't elaborate, you won't convince anyone".

Because if MZ thinks i is town, he wouldn't care about i doing something potentially scummy for the sake of it being scummy, and rather because it is not helpful. However if MZ thinks i is mafia, why is he explaining the steps i can take to remove any suspicion MZ might have to him. It's like me saying "hey, you just made a case that is wrong, that is very mafia like. please make another case that is right so I don't have to call you mafia." It's just an absurd way of playing the game.

The only reasonable conclusion is that MZ must think i is town, and thus it makes no sense for MZ to point out something i does looks like something mafia does.

The reason I created in my head is that MZ knows i is town, and doesn't feel the need to call him mafia right now, but does leave the open-ended suspicion for use later.

Ohh so when boiled down you are saying he isn't treating i as potential mafia. Ok I can see that.

On May 28 2014 14:32 gobbledydook wrote:
so sloosh, what is *your* read on MZ? I have given my read already, basically I think he's not confident in his reads so he's hedging his bets.

It basically depends on how good his stuff on Palmar is. Calling many people scum isn't bad if you can back it up with evidence and analysis, so now that he's been called out we'll see what he produces.
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