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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2014 23:19 GMT
#648
On May 30 2014 08:19 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 08:17 Palmar wrote:
If I was mafia and wanted credit for not lynching him I wouldn't have been whipping people to stay with the lynch buddy. I have no idea where you're going with this.

So are you saying that you think that all of the people who didn't vote on jwz is town?

No.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2014 23:21 GMT
#650
On May 30 2014 08:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 08:19 Palmar wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:19 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:17 Palmar wrote:
If I was mafia and wanted credit for not lynching him I wouldn't have been whipping people to stay with the lynch buddy. I have no idea where you're going with this.

So are you saying that you think that all of the people who didn't vote on jwz is town?

No.

Then explain what you mean please.

Do I have to?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2014 23:28 GMT
#652
Ah screw it. Newbie game, be nice Palmar (pro-tip, normally I'd ignore you or worse). I'll explain:

Haru's question towards me is loaded, as you can see:

On May 30 2014 08:07 HaruRH wrote:
Palmar - you still did not address my point of why did you initially strongly agree with the bandwagon, but fall off later? Stronger cases were put out against him at that point.


Unless I'm dumb, he's worried that I had too much information (as mafia), and feels like I was backtracking out of the read as to not be seen responsible for what I would know is a mislynch if I'm mafia.

He is right on the facts, I did indeed slowly become less sure about the lynch. But I think I addressed the reasons for that very thoroughly in my "too scummy to be scum" explanations.

But in the end I pointed out to him that I was active in shutting down any attempts at counterwagons during the end of the day, so if I'm mafia my plan is very strange.

what I did: semi-back out of the read - protect the lynch.
mafia option 1: stick with the read - protect the lynch (this way I'm consistent with my thought process)
mafia option 2: back out of the read - support alternative wagons (this way I distance myself from a mislynch).

I went with a route that doesn't make too much sense as mafia, as it's sort of contradicting. Now this does in no way prove I'm not mafia, but I'm just pointing out that Haru's line of questioning is unlikely to reveal anything about my alignment. In fact I feel like because of precisely the fact that his line of questioning is so misdirected, that there's a chance he's mafia, which also fits because I was having trouble adding up numbers in my previous post with reads.

Like I want him to explain what he thinks he can get out of the answer from me, because to me I don't see anything valuable coming out of it, so I think the question is asked for showmanship, not for actual investigation.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2014 23:30 GMT
#653
On May 30 2014 08:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:19 Palmar wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:19 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 30 2014 08:17 Palmar wrote:
If I was mafia and wanted credit for not lynching him I wouldn't have been whipping people to stay with the lynch buddy. I have no idea where you're going with this.

So are you saying that you think that all of the people who didn't vote on jwz is town?

No.

Then explain what you mean please.

Do I have to?

I'm not forcing you to.
But I don't really get what you're saying.
You call yourself town b/c you didn't stay on the jwz wagon, and you say that not everyone who went off the jwz wagon is town?

I stayed on the wagon so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2014 23:34 GMT
#655
My one town point for Haru is his bait thing. It's so dumb that it might be a town move. But I'm not gonna hang my hat on it.

And I don't really care. MZ is the lynch tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 00:15 GMT
#657
why on earth do I need to do more I'm doing tons of work.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 07:23 GMT
#690
I think I could throw my weight behind a sloosh vote.

I have a feeling the mafia team is sloosh, MZ, Gobbley
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 09:23 GMT
#697
##vote Meapak_Ziphh

Dude's calling me town for thinking he's mafia. Classic scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 12:37 GMT
#699
so who is mafia then gobbley?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 13:26 GMT
#702
On May 30 2014 21:41 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 21:37 Palmar wrote:
so who is mafia then gobbley?


My strongest read so far is fuba because of the way he's accusing me.
I have skimmed through the sloosh arguments, and I'll come up with a detailed read like this one later.


Better idea: find me 5 people tho you strongly consider to be town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 14:40 GMT
#705
On May 30 2014 23:34 HaruRH wrote:
This is getting worse and worse.

Firstly, my reads on palmar was distrupted because he did not read the op, which I assumed everyone to do so.

Secondly, much of my reads on MZ is attributed to him forgetting to vote - last minute vote wws what I was banking on, but since it's a mistake now, I have no case against him.

I will go with the flow for now until someone else piques my interest again.

## unvote
## vote: slOosh


Here, so you can be sure I'm not lying:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20920619
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17414099
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19520346
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17362020
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17206041
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16062977
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15487111
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14526452
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13756090
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 14:50 GMT
#707
Why is Ninja town?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2014 15:02 GMT
#709
On May 30 2014 23:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 23:50 Palmar wrote:
Why is Ninja town?


Makes good arguments, asks lots of good questions, basically the same reasons Amiko is town.

Which arguments in particular did you like and why?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2014 09:21 GMT
#740
was drunk, am a bit behind now. Will read when head feels better.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2014 23:36 GMT
#756
It's weekend fuba, I can't play as much on weekends.

But you're right. The way the votes are falling, everyone who is town should absolutely move on to MZ. I'll take the blame if I'm wrong.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2014 23:54 GMT
#760
On June 01 2014 08:43 Amiko wrote:
Please explain this (Palmar & fuba):

How do you not vote slOosh when nearly everything suspicious about M_Z also applies to slOosh, plus slOosh is scummier in other ways?

@Palmar:
You should also join my lynch on slOosh because fuba's play today is weird and he is pushing M_Z - if you don't see that I can argue about it.


I think fuba is town, I don't care if his play is weird.

This sloosh lynch is going too easily. We should do MZ.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2014 23:57 GMT
#762
And no amiko, fuba's point (I think) and mine, is that if this was a mafia lynch on sloosh, why is it gaining traction over the MZ one. It's a pretty shit way of playing in general but it may apply here.

I'm pretty sure mderg is town and I know I'm town. so at the top of this page the only potential scum according to my reads on the MZ wagon is sloosh himself.

Maybe they're both mafia. in that case it's fine. But I'm really sure MZ is mafia, like 95% sure.

So why is everyone jumping the sloosh case?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2014 23:58 GMT
#765
On June 01 2014 08:57 Amiko wrote:
Palmar:
Is slOosh "too scummy to be scum" ?
Like do you agree slOosh is scummier, but you want to go M_Z because people are voting for slOosh?

No, MZ is way more scummy. Like way, way, way more scummy.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2014 00:00 GMT
#767
Doesn't matter. My case on MZ is far more slam dunk than yours on sloosh.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2014 01:20 GMT
#840
On May 30 2014 16:23 Palmar wrote:
I think I could throw my weight behind a sloosh vote.

I have a feeling the mafia team is sloosh, MZ, Gobbley

Crossing fingers for 3/3 but now I'm not so sure
Computer says mafia
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