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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 19:47 GMT
#1357
@fuba if you're town you better put at least the amount of effort I've put in today tomorrow.

Seriously, if you die with less than at least 60 in the final day and you flip town, I'm going to be really mad at you.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 19:53 GMT
#1359
On June 07 2014 04:49 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 04:47 Palmar wrote:
@fuba if you're town you better put at least the amount of effort I've put in today tomorrow.

Seriously, if you die with less than at least 60 in the final day and you flip town, I'm going to be really mad at you.


I'm not capable of posting that much. Just sayin'.

If I'm wrong and you're town I don't care what you're capable of.

I don't want to lose this game. You will do it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 20:15 GMT
#1361
@mderg if you're mafia you should totally be voting fuba.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 21:09 GMT
#1363
On June 07 2014 05:30 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 05:15 Palmar wrote:
@mderg if you're mafia you should totally be voting fuba.

Interesting... why do you think so? I think in this situation one has to play similar as either mafia or town, both only have to survive in order to win.

Yes but you already see how tunneled in amiko is on me.

If you're mafia, the optimal strategy for you is to get fuba killed and then go with the explanation that I weaseled myself out of a lynch.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 21:15 GMT
#1364
Btw, I guess I'm not surprised that I couldn't move the lynch off from me today. It's incredibly hard to ditch a tunnel you've dug yourself in. Hell, I did the same with MZ this game. I made almost exactly the same mistake Amiko is making now. I saw a bunch of things and assumed they could only be explained by MZ being mafia, when in reality it was even easier to explain them with him being lazy and apathetic townie.

So, knowing how hard it is to pull out of a tunnel, I decided to basically help Amiko (and others) as much as I possibly could by not acting like MZ. I have posted a fuckton, explained everything I've done in detail, explained why none of my actions make me mafia. At least while I messed up on MZ I'm happy that I at least made sure town had enough information to make an incredibly difficult choice. Sadly it didn't happen, but I tried.

I did not play anti-town. It is not anti-town to have opinions and explain them. Everything I've done this game has always been explained very thoroughly. From the jabber lynch, my jabber hesitation, the MZ read, the reason I got suspicious of the sloosh wagon, why I stuck with the MZ read and finally today, I have always explained myself.

All I'm guilty of is being wrong on the order of my scumreads. Yes I put MZ number one. My bad. Doesn't make me mafia. Not all of us had a cop check to rely on. Amazing to get lynched for only figuring out 2/3 mafia team on day 2, but such is life.

gg guys.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 21:17 GMT
#1365
On June 07 2014 02:47 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 02:44 Amiko wrote:
That's fine. Let's talk after the game since I'll know your helpful comments are genuine.


>.> you're really bent on killing off both fuba and palmar. But I still think that mderg still have the remote chance of being mafia. We should really let palmar live for one more day, lynch fuba who is still unwilling to contribute until now and make mderg and palmar try to convince the remaining of us who is more scummy should it still go on. The order doesn't matter, but having palmar who is willing to talk is better than fuba, who is just hiding.

Careful, your head might explode with all that logic.

Thanks for using rational thought today. It's not easy to objectively look at a game in a state like this and realize town is doing the wrong thing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 21:51 GMT
#1368
On June 07 2014 06:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
*correction: I've been able to pin at least one mafia on D1 if I'm vanilla town, which I'm not this time.

I cannot play blue roles. I am incapable of playing them well.

Idk you didn't really mess shit up, I think you played fine.

being a blue role should in no way impact your scumhunting ability.

Also, I look town because I am town. But the whole not lynching townies thing doesn't seem to be in style here.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#1370
On June 07 2014 06:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 06:51 Palmar wrote:
On June 07 2014 06:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
*correction: I've been able to pin at least one mafia on D1 if I'm vanilla town, which I'm not this time.

I cannot play blue roles. I am incapable of playing them well.

being a blue role should in no way impact your scumhunting ability.

Unfortunately, it does.

I don't really know why. It seems to me that all the same information should be presented to you.

Anyway, here's a thing.

Tomorrow, you need to look into the response to Slam's roleblock on n1 (it was slam on n1 right?). If people were throwing townreads on him left and right over the next day, it is not out of the realm of possibility that mafia might have gotten an idea that this town would not question roleblocks.

I won't have time to do it before the deadline.

I still think fuba is more likely to flip mafia, based on number of other factors I've already mentioned. But make sure you at least check how town responded to Slam's roleblock claim and if it might have caused mafia to think not roleblocking would be a good idea.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#1371
Day 6.

I'm alone again.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 23:42 GMT
#1374
what do you think Amiko
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#1377
I was talking about fuba backtracking on me being mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 06 2014 23:53 GMT
#1378
But no, I noticed I had like 12 posts in a row or something with no one else responding to me.

(Which means I'm mafia in bizarro-world).

So I started writing a diary stranded on a desert island.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:13 GMT
#1383
On June 07 2014 09:06 Amiko wrote:
On Slam’s roleblock claim-
Palmar questions the possibility that if Slam was getting townread for the roleblock, it may make mderg more likely to fake the claim.

Alakaslam claimed here (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=35#685)

I don’t see any real discussion of Slam or the roleblock in a positive way. Actually, I think the little discussion we had of Slam was a null read from sqrt (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=36#710). Nobody really seemed to consider the roleblock.

So, I still tend to think mafia was more likely to roleblock mderg than not use the block.


I agree, hence why I am voting fuba. I'm just not available for filter diving right now and I'll be dead during the night. I wanted it brought up so people can read it during the night.

On June 07 2014 09:06 Amiko wrote:
@Palmar:
I still think the best reasons to suspect fuba being scum is that he makes a case on gobble, basically drops it, then makes a case on sqrt, and again basically drops it. It's hard to say that's scummier than you, though, when I don't feel like you really explored other options.
I still feel pretty good about lynching both you and fuba, and I still I think the best way to effect that is lynching you first.

Still reading though :3


The best reason to lynch fuba over me is that at every turn I have been at the forefront of discussion, and he has wobbled along. Mafia doesn't like sticking their necks out there.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:15 GMT
#1384
But yes, for mafia, his play is relatively "clean".

But there is a reason he's pretty clean and I've been pretty blatantly dirty at times. One of us has perfect information and it isn't me.

Good night, gg.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:34 GMT
#1386
On June 07 2014 09:19 fuba wrote:
Lol, what part of my play makes you think I have all the information?

The part where you are mafia bro
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:42 GMT
#1387
To be honest fuba, if you're town, optimal play for you is probably to vote for yourself.

Because if you're somehow town, which I don't think you are, that means mderg is the remaining mafia. And the chances of you surviving the last day when I flip town are almost none.

There's far more chance that I can pull it off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:42 GMT
#1388
So because you're not voting yourself, I conclude you must be mafia.

QED.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 00:56 GMT
#1390
rofl

Day 7.

I'm about to die

I'm okay with it.

Haru will you hold my hand?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 01:03 GMT
#1393
Never play scared again Amiko. It's one way ticket to losing games.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 07 2014 01:04 GMT
#1394
And I didn't play anti-town. All I did was being wrong on one out of my 3 scum guesses. Good enough reason to lynch, I guess.
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