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+ Show Spoiler + Chanman = town for brave gallows houmer Palmer= neutral claim, fits? Maybs kill? Him bieng grey would explain his ambivilance, but if he was actually third party would he be so cavalier about it? Chrom= Town for yolo push onto Koshi, posts do seem well thought out too. Tehpoofter= redish for wanting spam? Round= talking alot, not sure scum can play so fluid. Robik is known to be pretty emotional so the whole peronsal defence thing is in character. bats= Aggresive. Dont like how everything reafirms his own bias, but his activity is helpful to town as a whole so townie? Jat= Dont like how he tries t interject in the bat round fight. Will read more into him Sinani- Unspoken tryst with round? Attacks other not quite as active players? Scumish? Ritoky = town for brazen freedom mongering Marv= null, biding his time one way or another. Dont like the whole “your bad and you should feel bad.” attitude he has regarding accusations. Tica Tica= not sure why hes calling back to plam? Feels townie cause hes clearing names and picking out odd targets. Doesnt feel like he has an agenda? Tefpoof= odd koshi attack? Dont like how he wanted to catch Marv for the sake of catching marv, feels like seeding? Meapak= Null? Wierdness obscures actual motives? Reads Marv as scum, will need to see more of him Vayne= Skips a bunch of pages? Not sure scum would feel safe enough to do that? Belies a sense of isolation or potentially scummy laziness. Hard to say. Kush= null Chairman= Dont like how he basically says he doesnt like a whole post, then proceeds to break it apart bit by bit. Yet doesnt make an accusation out of it? Feels like hes trying to get other townies to jump, as if “take your pick folks! I cant eat another bite / :” scummy, will elaborate on him. Exo= Scared to rush out opinions? Scumish Bill murray= Insane Yamato is fearless= town Rainbows= Like his whole “these guys are on the same page as me, and have the same process, I'm town ergo so are they!” Not necessarily right but reads as a townie mentality. Dont like this post by Chairman On June 11 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote: batsnacks, I do not fully understand your post, and was hoping you could clarify a few thing for me: Do you have specific posts? I feel you are speaking too metaphorically and I don't actually see what you mean in his filter. I'm not sure how to respond to this. What does "too impressive" mean? tehpoofer made a ton of posts today and you have summarized a few of them. Can you explain why these posts you have selected are alignment indicative, and what you think about all his other posts? Palmer has skipped the game thus far because of dota. Why is he not on your FOS? Why is this town indicative? Why doesn't Bill Murray get town cred from calling out roundabout's sheeping the wrong player? Why is this suspicious behavior? Exo has made posts that are not just asking for terminology. Why did you discount these posts? Why did you give TicaTica a null read with no real explanation, and not included any of the other people who have posted in this thread? What I get from it is that he basically didnt like Bats whole post, but doesn't immediately jump on him for it? The way he so cleanly spread out his greivances, it feels like hes trying to offer everyone something to pounce on, but doesnt peronally leap on any of it himself. When the opposite happens, and people jump on him for the shoddy post, he comes out swinging, but drops the read after just a couple hours when no one really agrees with him / : Notably Bat was an enemy of Rounds, as was Chair man. Did he bilieve they were scum together? Cause he never took back his read on round. Honestly it seems as if the heat on Round died down a bit and he came after Bat because thats the conflict he was most familiar with ( when your maf you tend to focus more on the events that directly concern you and as a result your accusations lean that way because those are the matters your best versed in.) Yeah not a fan of the Chair....Man | ||
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On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote: Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over [complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work] Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case Also would still kill rainbows LURKERS UNITE XD our entry post timings are scarily close. | ||
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On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. | ||
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote: Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far. Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives. | ||
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On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote: CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. That post started out by calling your post scummy then ended by saying your not scum? How is that well thought out? Then he accuses bat, whose the staunch enemy of round, chairs own scum read, but then drops his bat accusation when it doesn't gather steam... I don't know, he posts a lot but I don't feel those posts are as extremely thought out as you say. | ||
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On June 12 2014 06:30 Palmar wrote: I don't have a lot of data to support this yet, but there is a possibility marvellosity is mafia this game. So why bother mentioning it if you have no data? Hoping other people will make a case for you? | ||
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On June 12 2014 06:23 ExO_ wrote: Changing your mind all the time can easily get you killed. Saying X is scum, then Y is scum, then Z is scum...people are gonna start thinking your scum trying to throw the blame off yourself. Obviously adapting and assessing and reassessing is a part of the game. But I'm not going to spout off bullshit for the sake of spouting off bullshit. If I saw something that I thought would help the town, I'd say it. That's fine and all, but that puts me in the position of " do I really think this guy hasn't found anything useful to push after 40 pages of relatively useful dialogue?" Also the newb defence is ill founded. Most new players are brash and want nothing more than to find scum day 1. Basicaly, you haven't given me much to go on but it's day 1 so Im glad to give you time before I decide what I think about you. But I don't see how you can be bothered that I found your silence premtively suspicious / : a persons entry is pretty key to determining if they're mafia or not. As a game goes on if mafia become more accepted they can begin to look pretty much like town, whereas scums first day is always going to be a bit off, how can it not? They know everything, we know nothing, it is in these first few turbulent days that scum are most likely to slip but not unless town litters the floors with bananas. Oh also I think jat looks pretty iffy too / : I'm not asking you too make shitty posts like that, Try to make good ones and if they come out bad, it is what is. We're not idiots, we'll be able to tell if your actually trying / : | ||
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On June 12 2014 06:45 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm excited you seem to actually be posting this game!!! What do you think of Mr roundabound/batsnacks and most importantly ketomai? Both are probably town ( dumb fights like that are usually between over zealous townies and I've seen rob in that same situation before, he pretty much acts the same way, less sure about bat but still green on him, stubborn aggressive townie, whose helped push the thread out of the dumb jokey part of the game )haven't read ketomai much yet, will get on him : P | ||
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Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. I'm still uncertain about my alignment this game, and I haven't rolled a personality either. Doesn't this mean Plamer is third party? It would explain his prevalent apathy, questions regarding this. 1: Do we want Palmer to clarify? 2: Barring consensus on who to lynch (unlikely, we should be able to muster a lynch no matter what happens) is he a good fall back kill? 3: Do we even care about his reads if hes not on our side? 4: If he is claiming 3p, what are the odds hes still scum? I know Tl has left survivors alone fairly often considering theyre deaths seemingly bring town no closer to victory. Maybe hes taking advantage of the current meta? | ||
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T_T in my defence I never read the op. | ||
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I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion. This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone. dumb filler @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations. A bunch of justification for a vote that has nothing to do with the vote itself -_- nore is any reasoning offered up for the vote. How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment. 6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia. If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise. Don't worry, lol. There are more people playing this game than round and exo, 27 more players to be exact, and yet his vote is on someone he thinks is town? Also he seems to think alot about what scum would and wouldnt do, you know who else does that? Scum. Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now! Kinda hard to offer up a more detailed analysis when you havent actually given any analysis yet / : Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. 1: your bad not ours, you want people to not be mad at you for making useless posts, dont make useless posts. 2: He intends to blame town for his cruddy play... that shit cray. Overall the dude is pretty shoddy, but considering all his posts happened over the course of 2 hours we should give him a chance to talk while not under the microscope / : | ||
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On June 12 2014 07:16 Palmar wrote: Bill Murray: 11.1 Tehpoofter: 11.0 yamato77: 10.8 Koshi: 10.6 sinani206: 10.4 Chromatically: 10.4 Rainbows: 10.3 Chairman Ray: 10.2 roundabound: 10.1 batsnacks: 10.1 marvellosity: 10.0 ExO_: 9.5 HaruRH: 9.4 TicaTica: 9.0 justanothertownie: 9.0 gumshoe: 8.6 ObiWanShinobi: 8.5 Alakaslam: 7.9 Meapak_Ziphh: 7.7 TheKingOfTheCats: 7.7 kushm4sta: 7.6 ketomai: 7.5 Amiko: 7.5 ritoky: 7.5 Palmar: 7.4 Holyflare: 7.3 sandroba: 6.8 strongandbig: 6.1 VayneAuthority: 4.9 mattisfoolish: 4.1 Wow, I'm literally right in the middle XD | ||
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Thoughts on Kitomai I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion. This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone. dumb filler @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations. A bunch of justification for a vote that has nothing to do with the vote itself -_- nore is any reasoning offered up for the vote. How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment. 6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia. If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise. Don't worry, lol. There are more people playing this game than round and exo, 27 more players to be exact, and yet his vote is on someone he thinks is town? Also he seems to think alot about what scum would and wouldnt do, you know who else does that? Scum. Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now! Kinda hard to offer up a more detailed analysis when you havent actually given any analysis yet / : Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. 1: your bad not ours, you want people to not be mad at you for making useless posts, dont make useless posts. 2: He intends to blame town for his cruddy play... that shit cray. Overall the dude is pretty shoddy, but considering all his posts happened over the course of 2 hours we should give him a chance to talk while not under the microscope / : | ||
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On June 12 2014 07:38 marvellosity wrote: i think ritoky is bullshitting like mad. Can you consolidate your case on him if you think he's scum? Cause these on liners just ain't doin t for me Mary marvel : P | ||
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On June 12 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote: like this conclusion makes absolutely no sense at all. Maybe he thinks it's an elaborate bus? ( you know, one of those 12 wheelers with a hot tub and a library.) | ||
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On June 12 2014 07:52 yamato77 wrote: I'd love a VA lynch. Nobody cares what you want Yamato, not even your xbox. | ||
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On June 12 2014 07:56 : wrote: I don't own an xbox. Worth a shot / : | ||
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I will rig your law exams irl if you do not lynch me : P | ||
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On June 14 2014 16:21 ExO_ wrote: @.@ was it really necessary to take a cheap shot like that at me? yes | ||
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On June 14 2014 16:35 Holyflare wrote: also that haru post makes him look like a kid in the candy store so probably not on my list for today even if his cats stuff is weird Scum can be excited to make cases on shitty town too you know : P | ||
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On June 14 2014 16:21 HaruRH wrote: Go ahead, but make sure rainbows is lynched next after me if it occurs. I will feel so good to actually deduce out a mafia after 2 games :D Looks like I need to sacrifice for town at the scale of Palmar :D It's ok though, Palmar had already left me a great impression after detention mafia and I really liked how he sacrificed himself here this game too, with mafiabait. ILL GLADLY BE MAFIABAIT TOO, LYNCH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW RAINBOWS ok fine, your probs not scum ) : sigh, why ya gotta make me read this game? | ||
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oh wait, nm, thought you meant give me the excuse in a "please give me a reason to lynch you way" I was working the election for ontario. Started at 8 am ended at 12 after we cleaned up and tallied votes. Then we came in the next day to close down all the venues. Got home at 6 yesterday and went straight to bed, woke in the middle of the night cause "oh shit mafia!!!" | ||
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On June 14 2014 17:24 roundabound wrote: Gum Dat feeling when u realise kp ain't submitted, ey  ~moc Grats, you just outed vig ) : | ||
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On June 14 2014 17:53 Holyflare wrote: SO YEH i just applied for flight delay compensation for 400 euros each passenger because a flight last year was delayed over 4 hours which was like 4x the amount of the cost of the flight so gg law Meh, I once found a euro on the ground, didn't have to bend the law t get it, only my back : P | ||
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On June 14 2014 18:19 ExO_ wrote: Dun know what you're big problem is with me, but I don't see you doing a whole lot. I've never claimed to be great or that I'm going to be able to solve the game. Please, let me here some great wisdom from gumshoe. If you're going to call me out, Let's see what you have to say. Never said I had a problem with you, merely that I expect great things? Why? Because I bilieve in you Exo : P which is more than I can say for myself. | ||
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