Is it possible to reset the clock once everyone has their role or should I just not worry about it? It would probably make more sense to have it start on the hour anyway.
On June 11 2014 06:08 batsnacks wrote: Confirmed scum Palmar can wait I want to policy the hydra today because I hate hydras.
Also this is pretty funny coming from a hydra:
On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote: You know how I play...
##Vote roundabound
I fucking hate hydras too, but I really wanted to play and I will have absolutely no time from the 13-15th and I didn't want to not play and I didn't want to be modkilled. Hence, hydraville, population me, mocsta, chewy and foolishness
0% of this post concerns in game happenings so I'm going to pretend it never happened.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
This is a reply to your logic that I'm trying to confuse people by using nicknames. Like what type of stupid ass shit is that. I'm not mafia, so your logic is terrible. Please learn how to draw actual conclusions and correct conclusions as opposed to just tunnelling on me cause you don't have anyone else to go on cause everyone is too big of a pussy to do anything this game.
Points you raised:
1. "stupid ass shit" 2. "I'm not mafia, so your logic is terrible" 3. "lern2play" 4. Everyone is a pussy
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Which one?
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.
On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Which one?
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
I did respond... you just quoted it.
I don't know what "the deepest one in the nest" means.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.
On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Which one?
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
If you're town, you don't know how to read shit. If you're mafia...carry on. I'm not gonna let myself get mislynched.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote: [quote] Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.
On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Which one?
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
I did respond... you just quoted it.
I don't know what "the deepest one in the nest" means.
Oh, sorry. The comment nest. This one, to be exact.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
I'm sorry I still don't know what you're asking. What does "what was your post then" mean? I was just chasing after roundabout because for one he's a hydra and I hate hydras and two because I feel like I'm making progress by pursuing him.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote: [quote] Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.
On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Which one?
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
If you're town, you don't know how to read shit. If you're mafia...carry on. I'm not gonna let myself get mislynched.
Have you seen the voting thread lately?
Do you think this says something about his alignment (eg is he scummier/townier for this attitude)?
No. I think his "if your town you can't read/play if you're mafia keep going" attitude is scummy.
Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.
Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.
tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.
roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.
vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS
sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.
exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS
Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS
On June 11 2014 11:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: yo batsnacks, talk to me about marv. Read his filter first so it's fresh in your mind.
I've read every post in this thread. I am having a really difficult time reading Marv. If there is something specific he's done you want to talk about I'm happy to talk about it with you.
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote: So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing
Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1
Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
On June 11 2014 11:29 batsnacks wrote: Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far:
Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.
Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.
tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.
roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.
vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS
sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.
exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS
Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS
TicaTica - Expert troll? Null read.
you try googling hydra and see if you can get info on what it is. I tried searching for it when people were asking about hydras pre-game and all I came up with is a zerg unit that shoots both air and ground.
On June 11 2014 11:47 ExO_ wrote: I didn't think it was mafia lingo, I thought it was TL specific lingo. Didn't occur to me to search for mafia lingo. oh well
That's an acceptable excuse in my opinion since hydras are an SC unit. But you also asked about OMGUS.
Chairman that post is going to be really difficult to respond to because of all the quotes and formatting. I hope you won't mind if I take the lazy approach.
1. About sinani. There are specific posts but I don't feel like finding them. My notes are just my general feelings about the thread so far. Maybe my feelings are too metaphorical but at least I'm sharing them.
2. About you. Your posts are too intelligent and thorough. Are those better adjectives than "impressive"?
3. About tehpoofer. I believe everything I mentioned is alignment indicative. His posts have the theme of appearing to help but in ways that don't actually benefit town.
4. About Palmar. Palmar only made one "skip" post. Vayne made two consecutive "skip" posts. That's a big difference.
5. About sandroba. It's town indicative because I would have done the same thing. That thing that you said BillyMurray did either didn't make my notes because I interpreted whatever it was differently or because I missed it.
6. About exo. He posts only to benefit himself, not town. If I were newb town and didn't know what hydras or OMGUSing was I would make damn sure I couldn't educate myself before I asked in the thread.
7. About TicaTica. I commented on TicaTica because he made me laugh a couple times which I have never done as a result of TL mafia prior.
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote: Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?
That's weird Tica I thought Chairman was my weakest read so far.
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote: Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?
I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.
What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.
So Rainbows...
On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote: batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote: Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?
I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.
What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.
So Rainbows...
On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote: batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.
Did you ever get your answer?
You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant.
If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia?
I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant?
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote: Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?
I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.
What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.
So Rainbows...
On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote: batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.
Did you ever get your answer?
You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant.
If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia?
I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant?
If CR is town, he is trying to figure out your intentions with your reads post. To see if YOU are mafia. If this is the case, why does he ask "Why not Palmar?" or "Why tica = null". He asks a question about every one of your reads. Feels like homework. Not all of the questions were bad, just some like "why is this scummy" when that should have been self-explanatory.
"Feels like homework" I like that. I like what you just said. Good.
Did you hear that MZ? It feels to me like Chairman Ray is doing homework i.e. responding carefully and intelligently to what he has to. He is the only person in this game I have this feeling about.
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
hold up.
why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?
I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
hold up.
why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?
I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.
i never thought you could scumread someone for being too careful/intelligent.
btw, i actually forget, but who did you read for that last game?
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
hold up.
why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?
I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.
i never thought you could scumread someone for being too careful/intelligent.
btw, i actually forget, but who did you read for that last game?
Bunnies
bunnies scumread someone for being more active the longer the game went on.
its...not really the same thing.
No you misunderstand. I scumread bunnies for playing too good.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
hold up.
why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?
I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.
i never thought you could scumread someone for being too careful/intelligent.
btw, i actually forget, but who did you read for that last game?
Bunnies
bunnies scumread someone for being more active the longer the game went on.
its...not really the same thing.
No you misunderstand. I scumread bunnies for playing too good.
bunnies didnt play "good." nobody really played "good" that game, and im still mad at myself because i had the scumteam for the last 3 lynches and backed off because i wussed out.
the issue was that bunnies was dressing up bad analysis by making it look nice. it was actually kinda funny at times and im still a bit shocked that a certain someone in this game decided to put her as the last lynch.
chairman just looks like a dude getting bogged down in stuff that isnt really alignment relevant. its not the same thing.
I didn't read the game after my cell left. I was talking about before then. I would quote what I said for you but search is down for maintenance apparently.
On June 11 2014 14:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: well...you should.
i actually had a mental image of the entire scumteam and had the three players that really matched that profile, and then didnt vote one of them when it really mattered.
its pretty much exactly what you dont do when you have strong reads.
As soon as I stop getting this error message I will be happy to oblige. Until then, yeah, I like what Chairman Ray said because I appreciate good mafia play AND I still think he's scum.
On June 11 2014 14:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: well...you should.
i actually had a mental image of the entire scumteam and had the three players that really matched that profile, and then didnt vote one of them when it really mattered.
its pretty much exactly what you dont do when you have strong reads.
As soon as I stop getting this error message I will be happy to oblige. Until then, yeah, I like what Chairman Ray said because I appreciate good mafia play AND I still think he's scum.
Are you claiming that town players will always play off-the-cuff?
ALWAYS is a bad word to use in mafia. Your posts in general are guilty of generalizing how mafia is played. Add that to the problems I have with what you've contributed.
On June 11 2014 14:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: well...you should.
i actually had a mental image of the entire scumteam and had the three players that really matched that profile, and then didnt vote one of them when it really mattered.
its pretty much exactly what you dont do when you have strong reads.
As soon as I stop getting this error message I will be happy to oblige. Until then, yeah, I like what Chairman Ray said because I appreciate good mafia play AND I still think he's scum.
Are you claiming that town players will always play off-the-cuff?
ALWAYS is a bad word to use in mafia. Your posts in general are guilty of generalizing how mafia is played. Add that to the problems I have with what you've contributed.
Firstly, you have not given any response to my criticisms of you. All you did was try to redirection suspicions onto me.
Secondly, you did the exact same thing with the question I just asked you.
Thirdly, you took the word 'always' completely out of context in order to make it look like I made a blanket statement. It is very clear this isn't the case. I made a one line question so there wasn't much for you to read. I don't believe for a second that you made a reading error. This mistake was done intentionally.
If you are wondering why I asked you that question, it was because you base your entire read off of me because you saw ONE person do something similar. A sample size of ONE. In order for you to make this read, you would have to have seen ZERO town play similarly. This is why I asked you believe that a town will always play off-the-cuff.
I'm gonna stop right here because you like me to keep things short. But it's pretty clear you are playing this way intentionally. You are intentionally avoiding any criticism or question I have of you. You are willingly taking people's posts out of context and selecting those that are convenient to your scumreads while ignoring everything else. You have very arbitrary standards as to what you find towny and what you find scummy. Putting myself in your shoes, I can't picture the things you have said to be from someone trying to find out who's town and who's mafia. You clearly have the motivations of someone who's trying to look active, and trying to get a mislynch happening. I have a fairly strong read that you are mafia.
##Unvote ##Vote: batsnacks
First, I gave you a response, if you didn't like my response fine, but that's not the same as me not giving one.
Secondly, I scum read you first. That isn't "redirecting" suspicion. It was already there.
Third, I didn't take 'always' out of context. In that question you were asking me to say that town ALWAYS acts a certain way. That is the definition of a blanket statement. You are asking me to commit a blanket statement about how town behaves every game. I'm not going to do that.
Fourth, I didn't base my entire read off of you because I saw "ONE" person do something similar. I brought up that specific example when I was talking to obiwan because me and obiwan were both in that game and I thought it would be relevant to him.
On June 11 2014 14:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: well...you should.
i actually had a mental image of the entire scumteam and had the three players that really matched that profile, and then didnt vote one of them when it really mattered.
its pretty much exactly what you dont do when you have strong reads.
As soon as I stop getting this error message I will be happy to oblige. Until then, yeah, I like what Chairman Ray said because I appreciate good mafia play AND I still think he's scum.
Are you claiming that town players will always play off-the-cuff?
ALWAYS is a bad word to use in mafia. Your posts in general are guilty of generalizing how mafia is played. Add that to the problems I have with what you've contributed.
Firstly, you have not given any response to my criticisms of you. All you did was try to redirection suspicions onto me.
Secondly, you did the exact same thing with the question I just asked you.
Thirdly, you took the word 'always' completely out of context in order to make it look like I made a blanket statement. It is very clear this isn't the case. I made a one line question so there wasn't much for you to read. I don't believe for a second that you made a reading error. This mistake was done intentionally.
If you are wondering why I asked you that question, it was because you base your entire read off of me because you saw ONE person do something similar. A sample size of ONE. In order for you to make this read, you would have to have seen ZERO town play similarly. This is why I asked you believe that a town will always play off-the-cuff.
I'm gonna stop right here because you like me to keep things short. But it's pretty clear you are playing this way intentionally. You are intentionally avoiding any criticism or question I have of you. You are willingly taking people's posts out of context and selecting those that are convenient to your scumreads while ignoring everything else. You have very arbitrary standards as to what you find towny and what you find scummy. Putting myself in your shoes, I can't picture the things you have said to be from someone trying to find out who's town and who's mafia. You clearly have the motivations of someone who's trying to look active, and trying to get a mislynch happening. I have a fairly strong read that you are mafia.
##Unvote ##Vote: batsnacks
First, I gave you a response, if you didn't like my response fine, but that's not the same as me not giving one.
Secondly, I scum read you first. That isn't "redirecting" suspicion. It was already there.
Third, I didn't take 'always' out of context. In that question you were asking me to say that town ALWAYS acts a certain way. That is the definition of a blanket statement. You are asking me to commit a blanket statement about how town behaves every game. I'm not going to do that.
Fourth, I didn't base my entire read off of you because I saw "ONE" person do something similar. I brought up that specific example when I was talking to obiwan because me and obiwan were both in that game and I thought it would be relevant to him.
Fifth, it's about time you voted me.
When I gave my mafia read on you and when I asked you the follow up question, your response was simply to restate your scumread on me instead of talking about any of the points that I have raised. I do not consider this as a proper response but if you would like to consider it as not liking the response, I'm also okay with that. We both know exactly was said and naming it one way or another changes nothing.
I still believe that you are taking 'always' out of context. You initially accused me of generalizing because I used the word 'always' in a blanket statement when in fact I was accusing you of doing this. These are two very different things and there's no mistaking one for the other. It was evident that you were generalizing when your entire defense was that you saw someone in a previous game with some similarities. You had no analysis on why being 'careful' or 'thorough' was scummy. How am I supposed to interpret this? How is anyone else supposed to interpret this? Given that this was just an example and you do have some reasoning in your mind, I'm willing to drop this, but I would still be delighted to know your reasoning.
I responded to every point you made as best I could. Yes I restated the point I made about you with different adjectives, but if you read some of my other posts in that time frame you will notice I mentioned that you, at the time, were my weakest read. This is when I point out that you have made a bigger deal out of that than anything anyone has done in this game so far.
About the second part, sorry I thought you were trying to trap me into making a blanket statement. Which, read it again from my perspective please:
On June 11 2014 14:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: well...you should.
i actually had a mental image of the entire scumteam and had the three players that really matched that profile, and then didnt vote one of them when it really mattered.
its pretty much exactly what you dont do when you have strong reads.
As soon as I stop getting this error message I will be happy to oblige. Until then, yeah, I like what Chairman Ray said because I appreciate good mafia play AND I still think he's scum.
Are you claiming that town players will always play off-the-cuff?
I don't think it was unreasonable for me to think that. Do I think that town players will usually play off-the-cuff as compared to mafia? Yes.
"Usually" and "always" are hugely different though.
Sorry I meant for it to be implied that I find Koshi suspicious. I forgot to include his name in the formal list though. I guess now you're going to ask me what, specifically, I find suspicious about Koshi's play, right?
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote: So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing
Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1
Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
it wasn't me who said that
i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with...
Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all.
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote: So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing
Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1
Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
it wasn't me who said that
i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with...
Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all.
well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on
pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about.
Thanks I love pro-tips.
But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town.
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote: So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing
Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1
Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
it wasn't me who said that
i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with...
Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all.
well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on
pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about.
Thanks I love pro-tips.
But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town.
no, only really yamato.
and calling yamato terrible is always town
because he is terrible
"a bunch of people" - you have a penchant for the exaggerations, yes squire?
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote: Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote: [quote]
Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1
Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
it wasn't me who said that
i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with...
Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all.
well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on
pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about.
Thanks I love pro-tips.
But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town.
no, only really yamato.
and calling yamato terrible is always town
because he is terrible
"a bunch of people" - you have a penchant for the exaggerations, yes squire?
Do I need to filter dive?
be my guest.
Actually, you're right. It's actually just the 1/4 of your filter that you spend calling yamato terrible. Which I'll comment was warranted. It seems I was misrepresenting you marv. Sorry about that.
On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote: Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving.
Explain to me why batsnacks is scum. He posted 4 red names and 3 FoS in a 5 scum game. Most scum stick to 1 scumread. Maybe 2. I rarely see scum fake 7 scumreads with almost no reasoning.
Because of the terrible and illogical nature of some of his reads.
Do you think the terrible and illogical is the preserve of only one faction...?
There's terrible and there's terrible and i don't see honest townie idiocy in Bat's read of Round.
I am not understanding this. I be find Batsnacks scum but have specific doubt related to newness and terribleness. Why are you so certain of this read?
He says that using nicknames is a scum tactic to confuse people, something that doesn't make any sense. And then he says that Round is scum because he called someone by their nickname, ignoring the fact that even if the nickname thing is a scum tactic it doesn't automatically make him scum for addressing someone by their nickname. It's wrong on too many levels, at least in my mind.
Those are things that make think less good rather than scum. Why do you find it different?
Because he's using an incorrect conclusion based off of an incorrect premise and nothing else to push for someone's lynch while ignoring the people that are questioning that read and giving equally terrible reasons why he thinks other people are scum that make so little sense i have trouble believing they're genuine townie conclusions. It's not just his read on Round but everything he's done since that seems scummy to me.
Cats, I said using nicknames was a scum tactic 30 minutes after the game started. I wasn't being serious about that. That isn't why I'm voting roundabout.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
This is stupid.
There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
This is stupid.
There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .
Post by post is pretty bad actually, usually.
Marv you need new adjectives. "Bad" and "terrible" are getting stale.
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end
Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
This is stupid.
There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .
Post by post is pretty bad actually, usually.
Marv you need new adjectives. "Bad" and "terrible" are getting stale.
On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote: Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually
Hmm.
*looks at Haru*
hmmmmmm
Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.
first game or not, the difference is striking.
how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?
For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.
On June 12 2014 05:52 HaruRH wrote: If power role is the only thing you see, scum is the only thing I see.
So, you do or you don't understand why I thought you just claimed power role?
Also medic on Haru please.
Spell it out for me.
Only power roles have night actions and scum claiming doesn't exist.
Read page 20-30 bro
And lololol why does him saying throw out his reads N1 mean he has actions? No it is because he say n1, as I also say n1!!! Watch out bros TL blue value comin' back strong!!!
Mattisfoolish get in here man we need your speech about overvaluing blues
On June 11 2014 17:03 batsnacks wrote: Alakaslam do you post thoughts or just words? I can't figure it out by myself.
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote: Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.
I am going to go with everybody else.
I don't feel like this is something village koshi reasons out. He usually is one to just try to sheep/read off others bringing in his own evidence but not ignore everyone else.
On June 12 2014 10:35 batsnacks wrote: People voting ketomai:
Why vote vayne or mattisfoolish?
I personally don't really have issue with any of those candidates, why are VA and the hydra better than ketomai?
Even before ketomai posted his promised analysis post I think he contributed more to the thread than VA and mattisfoolish. If we're going to lynch a lurker why not lynch the worst offenders? VA at least seems to be reading the thread because every time someone mentions his name he responds. He just chooses to make all of his responses meaningless. Ketomai, like I said even before the analysis post, was doing better than that. Then there's mattisfoolish who, even as a hydra, still only has two posts; a vote and a comment about how me and CR were fighting.
On June 12 2014 14:44 Holyflare wrote: Atm I'm studying for a criminal litigation exam and then I'm done for the year!
Are you taking summer classes or is it normal for exams to be in the middle of June?
It's a part time course so i can work as well and yeh the exams are rather late
What is a part time course? Do you mean you're taking only one class at a time so you can keep working?
Aren't all individual classes inherently part time?
well at uni you do like 3-5 days a week of lectures during the week in the day, this course starts at 6pm and ends at 9 on mondays and sometimes wednesdays it takes an extra year to complete but i have job doing it (still doing like 5 modules a year though)
So there is one three hour class one day a week that has the occasional lab on Wednesdays. That doesn't sound like law school. What kind of program is this? How are you going to get a job in applied criminal litigation if you aren't in law school?
Why did everyone wait until now to vote cats? The reasons marv and others are giving happened yesterday. You guys could have voted him then. What changed?
On June 13 2014 04:12 Chairman Ray wrote: Peaking in before voting deadline. Don't think I can catch up on 300 posts in time. Anything really important happen?
marv started holding hands and people started voting kingofcats
I think kingofcats is a bad lynch. I have been kind of trolly this game and cats fell victim because he read my filter first and wasn't keeping up with the thread.
On June 13 2014 04:17 batsnacks wrote: I think kingofcats is a bad lynch. I have been kind of trolly this game and cats fell victim because he read my filter first and wasn't keeping up with the thread.
so what's your ideal lynch then? join me on kush
I really want to vote roundabout because I'm stubborn and I have a strong gut feeling but I realize my feelings aren't going to convince anyone but myself. If I had three votes I would be happy to put one on roundabout and two on kush. Do you know what I mean?
On June 13 2014 04:32 batsnacks wrote: If cats is town I'm probably going to get shot at for defending him close to deadline. Yeah I really don't think it's cats.
what I meant to say was that if cats is mafia etc....
Posting from phone. The only thing anyone has said about slam is that he neglected to share his info on cats, even when he was asked to. No one is analyzing things slam said, they are analyzing what he didn't say when he could, and should, have spoken up.
On June 14 2014 04:40 batsnacks wrote: In case I'm out in 20 minutes my scum list is sinani, roundabound, tehpoofter, rainbows, palmar. I am feel the strongest about the first three.
idk why you think you would die before marv. marv is dead meat tonight.
i want to see your reasoning behind rainbows and palmar, though.
Why are you most interested in the reasoning behind the people I feel the least strongly about?
On June 14 2014 04:40 batsnacks wrote: In case I'm out in 20 minutes my scum list is sinani, roundabound, tehpoofter, rainbows, palmar. I am feel the strongest about the first three.
idk why you think you would die before marv. marv is dead meat tonight.
i want to see your reasoning behind rainbows and palmar, though.
Why are you most interested in the reasoning behind the people I feel the least strongly about?
because i agree with the top of your list?
lol wtf.
Cool I'm glad we agree. Rainbows and Palmar are just a feeling. Rainbows feels like he's willing to lynch anyone and he's getting by in the thread easily. Palmar had that weird numbers post that I think he created just to appease the most active posters.
I can say with certainty that I would have more to say about this game if I hadn't read the entire thread. Next time I should just ctrl+f my username on every page and respond that way.
On June 14 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote: I wont be doing much thread manipulation this day. Mafia depression.
This made me laugh but in all serious wtf is meant by "thread manipulation" by Obi that was a really odd thing to say. I mean I don't think Koshi has a lot of pull at this point in the thread to manipulate it.
Maybe he's suggesting that Koshi has Alts in every thread in this sub forum and he's using them to slide our thread out of view.
On June 16 2014 05:03 marvellosity wrote: there's no good reason for yam to be town at all tbh.
Don't you think he'd do a bit more as mafia though. Like a hair more. He was 50/50 early on for me, but I don't think he's mafia. I can reread him but nothing he's done really strikes me as mafia him.
No. He really wouldn't.
meeeeeeh
I don't really care.
And this guy.
please
I don't understand your problem at all. You whine about how you want to play at tl but the behaviour is a problem then you join games and do this.
I pushed on Ray to make him talk more bunnies. We had a great conversation and I don't think he's mafia anymore. I didn't have a lot to say day 2 because I didn't agree with anyone's reads but my own so I just stuck on roundabound and called it a day.
I'm not really worried about how I look. The only way I anticipate leaving this game is if mafia get me. If they leave me alive, I'm probably voting roundabound again tomorrow.
On June 16 2014 05:33 batsnacks wrote: I'm not really worried about how I look. The only way I anticipate leaving this game is if mafia get me. If they leave me alive, I'm probably voting roundabound again tomorrow.
Okay, from filter skimming, you didn't even mention round in your scum reads til day 2, and then vote him, and I see no case anywhere on him.
I don't disagree that round should be lynched, but you have no substance to your read.
So, let us into that brain of yours. Why round?
At the beginning of the game I pushed on round. The way he responded made me think he's mafia. I did mention my reads day 1 btw I was one of the first to post reads.
On June 16 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote: EBWOP: okay I see the day 1 on Round- but you basically said because he's a hydra. Anything else?
He took everything I said way too seriously/personally almost. It seemed like he was freaking out or was nervous or something. It's just a feeling but it's a strong one and I'm pretty stubborn when I get a feeling I think is right.
On June 16 2014 05:33 batsnacks wrote: I'm not really worried about how I look. The only way I anticipate leaving this game is if mafia get me. If they leave me alive, I'm probably voting roundabound again tomorrow.
Okay, from filter skimming, you didn't even mention round in your scum reads til day 2, and then vote him, and I see no case anywhere on him.
I don't disagree that round should be lynched, but you have no substance to your read.
So, let us into that brain of yours. Why round?
At the beginning of the game I pushed on round. The way he responded made me think he's mafia. I did mention my reads day 1 btw I was one of the first to post reads.
Talk to me. How was Rob's reaction to you scummy?
Was it the defensiveness?
Or the basically brushing you off (what I read into it).
It's a combination of those two things. Ultra defensiveness. Didn't want to talk to me at all. Look at how CR responds to me randomly scumreading him. That was an excellent response. Then look at how roundabound responds to me randomly scumreading him. His response is nothing like CR's.
On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms.
You're talking about Holyflare right?
yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked
but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it
If I roleblocked someone who died, I would suggest vanilla mafia to claim they were blocked. Mafia roleblocker claiming like that seems like too much of a risk. So if Holyflare is mafia, I would not expect him to be roleblocker.
Between the two, if mattisfoolish were not a hydra I would probably lean toward voting sandroba. Roundabound quoted that post where sandroba said he would pick up the pace and never did.
But since mattisfoolish is two people I believe their inactivity this game has been a strategic move. They are being as quiet as possible on purpose. Town isn't strategically quiet. Town can be unintentionally quiet if they have IRL issues, are burned out on mafia, dislike the people remaining in the game, etc. but there being two of them mattisfoolish must be keeping quiet intentionally. I think one of them would have had an active period in the game by now if they were town.
On June 18 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote: Hello CR you are mafia. How do you plea?
rainbows; you are in my top town circle
but qs like this do not help ppl read you; nor, does it help to get a read off rainbow.
Regarding Ketomai: yes still scummy; however, if we look @ opportunity cost: Sandroba represents a much bigger trophy than the unknown ketomai.
Sandroba out of his own accord promised to contribute, and has failed to deliver. This is beyond a policy lynch now, we are into day3; and sandroba filter has not cracked 1 page; nor has it produced a single post of merit.
We have lazy, high-profile scum here and a perfect opportunity to eradicate scum
~moc
That's about where I am regarding Ketomai as well.
~Foolishness
Sorry you died in allstars.
What is your read on CR, Ritoky, Batsnacks, and gumshoe?
Also give me a read on HF?
These are the ones I care about most rn.
Since I'm here I'll answer these questions for fun.
CR could be mafia, I can easily picture a universe where he is, but he's nowhere near the scummiest in this game. The only thing he has going against him is day 2 which: a lot of people looked bad day 2 myself included.
Ritoky reads town to me. I think his low activity can be explained. He has been pushing for a chrom lynch for a while but no one really seems to agree with him. Since no one agrees with him, he probably feels less compelled to post. He did make some effort to give other reads, which is good. I still just think he's frustrated and dwelling on chrom because he has a strong feeling.
As for myself, I think it's unusual how many people are town reading me. I feel like I'm being manipulated.
Gumshoe commented on a couple useless posts (Palmar's numbers post, a couple IRL stuff posts) which is scummy to me. But then there was that post where he thought there was a 3rd party in this game, which, I don't believe mafia would have made that mistake. Mafia, in the universe I am imagining, would have read the OP. Gumshoe isn't someone I'm going to vote for today.
On June 18 2014 10:24 batsnacks wrote: Eh that first sentence is a huge disaster. What I'm trying to say is that given the choice between MIF and sandroba, I vote MIF.
That entire post was a disaster!!!
On June 18 2014 10:43 roundabound wrote: I had a few brain cells birn out trying to digure oit where batsnakcs was going with thag post
Sorry I say things that don't make sense a lot I type faster than I think.
All I'm trying to say is that since mattisfoolish is a hydra, he should have been more active considering there are two of him.
On June 18 2014 10:49 TicaTica wrote: I'm going to go ahead and say it. I think Banks and bunnies are both mafia. This is more gut from what I remember of their posting than anything else.
Yeah remove tehpoofter I forgot about him. As time goes on I'm feeling less strongly about my read on roundabound too, but I'm stubborn and have a tendency to cling to first impressions. I'm sure you can handle it.
What about marv/holyflare? Agree or disagree one of them is mafia?
I've commented on gumshoe, I don't think he's mafia. I'll take another look at keto.
On June 18 2014 11:17 roundabound wrote: Marv and holy shouldnt even be looked at until like f3. In fact, we should make it a missiom to have a hf/marv/me f3 if possible. That would be so much fucking fun
Also, remove bunnies. She doesnt sub in and kill banks
What's f3? You mean day 3?
I'm choosing to look at them now. You commented but didn't answer, is one of holyflare/marv mafia or no?
On June 18 2014 11:17 roundabound wrote: Marv and holy shouldnt even be looked at until like f3. In fact, we should make it a missiom to have a hf/marv/me f3 if possible. That would be so much fucking fun
Also, remove bunnies. She doesnt sub in and kill banks
Eh, HF could be mafia here.
Im leaning more town, but I think as town he should have died by now? Idk.
Also, no. We won't go to f3, cause mafia gonna get rekt!
On June 18 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote: So mafia list is roundabound, tehpoofter, sinani, bunnies, one of marv/holyflare, one of sandroba/mattisfoolish, maybe CR
Almost twice as many mafia reads as there are mafia. Does anyone want to convince me to remove someone from my list?
Talk me through how you get to this list.
Roundabound, poofter, and sinani were my initial scum reads day 1. None of them ever sufficiently convinced me otherwise, but poofter flipped town so I was at least wrong about him. Bunnies' play is very similar to last game when she was mafia; it is worth mentioning I guessed her alignment correctly last game. One of marv/hf is mafia in my opinion because there is no way they are both still alive as town. Sand/MIF because afk scum tactics. CR maybe because he came into the thread all thoughtful, thorough and trying but now he doesn't care.
On June 18 2014 11:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: though ill take basically anyone besides eden. seriously. anyone.
ill even be balla24, and thats saying something.
also, i have batsnacks as town. can we not push him instead of the people that arent doing things? thanks.
Ok, you can be cavalinho or sqrt-1. Theyre anyone but eden
well sqrt was hosting at one point so i cant possibly be him.
ill take cavalinho then. is he cool?
mydigitaltoss was that guy that made all the brood war gifs and funny pictures. He used to post huge threads full of them but has been gone for years now.
On June 18 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote: So mafia list is roundabound, tehpoofter, sinani, bunnies, one of marv/holyflare, one of sandroba/mattisfoolish, maybe CR
Almost twice as many mafia reads as there are mafia. Does anyone want to convince me to remove someone from my list?
Talk me through how you get to this list.
Roundabound, poofter, and sinani were my initial scum reads day 1. None of them ever sufficiently convinced me otherwise, but poofter flipped town so I was at least wrong about him. Bunnies' play is very similar to last game when she was mafia; it is worth mentioning I guessed her alignment correctly last game. One of marv/hf is mafia in my opinion because there is no way they are both still alive as town. Sand/MIF because afk scum tactics. CR maybe because he came into the thread all thoughtful, thorough and trying but now he doesn't care.
My play is similar every game, so try again.
And as I said, your "bunnies is mafia because she is thorough and plays well" doesn't work.
Give me some significant evidence.
Also, what do you think of marv's claim of protection? Think that's the reason why he is alive? HF read, I can agree on.
Round has talked a lot in this game? Why hasn't any of his stuff been significant?
If your play is similar every game, you're bad at mafia. I don't think you're bad at mafia, so you probably lied.
If it doesn't work why was I right? If I was right, I was, then it works.
I don't know why marv is alive. Do you? I just think either him or hf is mafia because I personally would not leave them both alive if I were mafia.
On June 18 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote: So mafia list is roundabound, tehpoofter, sinani, bunnies, one of marv/holyflare, one of sandroba/mattisfoolish, maybe CR
Almost twice as many mafia reads as there are mafia. Does anyone want to convince me to remove someone from my list?
Talk me through how you get to this list.
Roundabound, poofter, and sinani were my initial scum reads day 1. None of them ever sufficiently convinced me otherwise, but poofter flipped town so I was at least wrong about him. Bunnies' play is very similar to last game when she was mafia; it is worth mentioning I guessed her alignment correctly last game. One of marv/hf is mafia in my opinion because there is no way they are both still alive as town. Sand/MIF because afk scum tactics. CR maybe because he came into the thread all thoughtful, thorough and trying but now he doesn't care.
My play is similar every game, so try again.
And as I said, your "bunnies is mafia because she is thorough and plays well" doesn't work.
Give me some significant evidence.
Also, what do you think of marv's claim of protection? Think that's the reason why he is alive? HF read, I can agree on.
Round has talked a lot in this game? Why hasn't any of his stuff been significant?
If your play is similar every game, you're bad at mafia. I don't think you're bad at mafia, so you probably lied.
If it doesn't work why was I right? If I was right, I was, then it works.
I don't know why marv is alive. Do you? I just think either him or hf is mafia because I personally would not leave them both alive if I were mafia.
How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar? If I play my town game, no one can discern when Im mafia. Win/win imo. Though there are some differences, that I won't go into.
Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?
Marv claimed he has been jailed. two nights in a row. That means he is protected from 1kp.
Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?
You still think I'm mafia?
Short answer, the only answer I think you actually care about: yes
On June 11 2014 17:05 sinani206 wrote: OK, well first of all, I have slight town leans on the people who have pushed/FoSed me so far (mostly toward the earlier stages of today) because I don't think that an organized scum team with at least one player who played with me before would be dumb enough to push me on day one because of my meta. (For those of you who don't know, I generally read scummy to most and am often lynched day one.) As an easy target, any mafia pushing me would probably lead to their deaths later in the game, being seen as pushing for an easy lynch. Again, although I ended up taking a few lines to type this paragraph out, this is just a little thing to not and is really not that consequential as of yet, especially because I haven't played in a while and there are a lot of new faces (to me) in this game.
Secondly, just by catching up in the thread, not reading filters yet, I have red feelings on ketomai and Koshi. I'm going to read through the filters as I type this out and let you guys see my thought process as I analyze these two. I'm probably going to end up saying things a lot of others have already said, but bear with me.
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote: I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.
I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.
This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.
Not the ideal first post. As others have said, one post --> vote and the whole two person race to get lynched idea is wishy washy in that he's trying to show that he's pressuring someone and he doesn't really want to contribute.
On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote: @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.
Basically more of the same; placing a vote but saying it isn't important is like... I took way too long trying to find a simile. I'm sure you guys get it.
On June 11 2014 12:00 ketomai wrote: How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia.
If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise.
Don't worry, lol.
Votes are for mafia. Killing town is mafia's win condition.
On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote: Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.
Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!
I don't know how many times he has to say this, but I'm betting its going to be more than seven total. We're at four right now.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
"Hanging on" to you? I don't know what that means. You clearly have started the game; you've made a handful of posts and tried to contribute to discussion to some extent. Having suspicions on people like you is perfectly valid, and this poor substitute for a defense is not.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
whos getting manipulated and where?
you must provide quotes and scholarly sources.
Anyone who is taking round or your comments about me seriously.
If you don't believe me, filter my posts and look where I began posting. The initial comment was pretty innocuous; the rest are to try to calm down round for the benefit of the town and round himself. I'm not the one trying to distract town with useless material.
I'm actually done here. I'll be returning with a content-filled post tomorrow instead of clogging up the thread and the town agenda with this garbage.
Why post the garbage in the first place? And you were distracting town with useless material: you basically said so yourself, and you made six posts about the same thing where one would have sufficed.
In conclusion, I'm not getting a townread at all here, but I'm not sure if this is scum either. I think so far, just in terms of timing and more under-the-surface feelings, you seem red, but I am willing to wait for the incoming "content-filled post" before I make a more concrete decision.
And then he waits two hours. Actually though, I don't really see that as scummy, although some other people did, because in my mind, there's nothing wrong with waiting a little while before really jumping in to not have to deal with the early game bullshit. Some people just have shorter tempers and know from experience what the first few hours of mafia can be like. And he just could have been busy.
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself: ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves
another good point.
god im so confused.
this game is really hard.
can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.
shit i hope nobody notices me omg.
I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum
You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.
##Vote: Roundaboud
I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.
The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.
On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.
I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.
TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote: Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game.
roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote: This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.
If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg
On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.
On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT?
Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.
In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.
and therefore your conclusion?
I think it's kinda scummy.
I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p
on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.
Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.
well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.
Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.
##vote: TicaTica
Okay, so I'm not going to respond to the reads directly, because we're further into the game now, but he seems a little sure of them for so early and on his first post. I guess he read carefully. My main problem with this post is the early vote on TicaTica. This seems like an easy early vote based on how TicaTica was acting in thread before the game started, and in context the earlier reads in this post kind of seemed as merely something to stand on; Koshi seems to be inventing reads so that he can say that he has done more than go for an easy target.
Additionally, I personally don't like sharing too many details about my townreads with the thread because it gives mafia a lot of information, so I kind of have a bias against people who do this, but I do read the first half of this post as I'm choosing a bunch of players that seem like they have actually done things so far to say I think are town. It seems like any four names might have gone there.
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?
Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.
I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba.
Updates will follow later.
Contentless. I just wasted thirty seconds looking for anything useful in this post.
Pretty much the same thing as ketomai, expect less to go off of, but scummier in the process. Waiting for the next stage of your quest. It seems that my brain decided to pick up on people who I needed to see more of to decide on. I guess I'll just have to wait and see in the morning. That was kind of a whole lot of effort seemingly wasted, but I don't want to just delete the whole post because I'm unsure about people. I want to get my thoughts out in the open so that we can discuss them. I don't think it was really necessary to do a double filter analysis on these two specifically after actually reading through each of their filters, but I guess it can't hurt town.
On June 18 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote: So mafia list is roundabound, tehpoofter, sinani, bunnies, one of marv/holyflare, one of sandroba/mattisfoolish, maybe CR
Almost twice as many mafia reads as there are mafia. Does anyone want to convince me to remove someone from my list?
Talk me through how you get to this list.
Roundabound, poofter, and sinani were my initial scum reads day 1. None of them ever sufficiently convinced me otherwise, but poofter flipped town so I was at least wrong about him. Bunnies' play is very similar to last game when she was mafia; it is worth mentioning I guessed her alignment correctly last game. One of marv/hf is mafia in my opinion because there is no way they are both still alive as town. Sand/MIF because afk scum tactics. CR maybe because he came into the thread all thoughtful, thorough and trying but now he doesn't care.
My play is similar every game, so try again.
And as I said, your "bunnies is mafia because she is thorough and plays well" doesn't work.
Give me some significant evidence.
Also, what do you think of marv's claim of protection? Think that's the reason why he is alive? HF read, I can agree on.
Round has talked a lot in this game? Why hasn't any of his stuff been significant?
If your play is similar every game, you're bad at mafia. I don't think you're bad at mafia, so you probably lied.
If it doesn't work why was I right? If I was right, I was, then it works.
I don't know why marv is alive. Do you? I just think either him or hf is mafia because I personally would not leave them both alive if I were mafia.
How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar? If I play my town game, no one can discern when Im mafia. Win/win imo. Though there are some differences, that I won't go into.
Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?
Marv claimed he has been jailed. two nights in a row. That means he is protected from 1kp.
Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?
You still think I'm mafia?
Short answer, the only answer I think you actually care about: yes
Actually, tbh, that's the least question I care about. Though I do want to know why.
Answer the others please.
I have a good idea. Lets put aside our differences (for now) and try to find something we agree on.
Do you agree with a mattisfoolish lynch today? If not, how about a sandroba lynch?
On June 11 2014 17:05 sinani206 wrote: OK, well first of all, I have slight town leans on the people who have pushed/FoSed me so far (mostly toward the earlier stages of today) because I don't think that an organized scum team with at least one player who played with me before would be dumb enough to push me on day one because of my meta. (For those of you who don't know, I generally read scummy to most and am often lynched day one.) As an easy target, any mafia pushing me would probably lead to their deaths later in the game, being seen as pushing for an easy lynch. Again, although I ended up taking a few lines to type this paragraph out, this is just a little thing to not and is really not that consequential as of yet, especially because I haven't played in a while and there are a lot of new faces (to me) in this game.
Secondly, just by catching up in the thread, not reading filters yet, I have red feelings on ketomai and Koshi. I'm going to read through the filters as I type this out and let you guys see my thought process as I analyze these two. I'm probably going to end up saying things a lot of others have already said, but bear with me.
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote: I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.
I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.
This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.
Not the ideal first post. As others have said, one post --> vote and the whole two person race to get lynched idea is wishy washy in that he's trying to show that he's pressuring someone and he doesn't really want to contribute.
On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote: @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.
Basically more of the same; placing a vote but saying it isn't important is like... I took way too long trying to find a simile. I'm sure you guys get it.
On June 11 2014 12:00 ketomai wrote: How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia.
If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise.
Don't worry, lol.
Votes are for mafia. Killing town is mafia's win condition.
On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote: Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.
Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!
I don't know how many times he has to say this, but I'm betting its going to be more than seven total. We're at four right now.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
"Hanging on" to you? I don't know what that means. You clearly have started the game; you've made a handful of posts and tried to contribute to discussion to some extent. Having suspicions on people like you is perfectly valid, and this poor substitute for a defense is not.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
whos getting manipulated and where?
you must provide quotes and scholarly sources.
Anyone who is taking round or your comments about me seriously.
If you don't believe me, filter my posts and look where I began posting. The initial comment was pretty innocuous; the rest are to try to calm down round for the benefit of the town and round himself. I'm not the one trying to distract town with useless material.
I'm actually done here. I'll be returning with a content-filled post tomorrow instead of clogging up the thread and the town agenda with this garbage.
Why post the garbage in the first place? And you were distracting town with useless material: you basically said so yourself, and you made six posts about the same thing where one would have sufficed.
In conclusion, I'm not getting a townread at all here, but I'm not sure if this is scum either. I think so far, just in terms of timing and more under-the-surface feelings, you seem red, but I am willing to wait for the incoming "content-filled post" before I make a more concrete decision.
And then he waits two hours. Actually though, I don't really see that as scummy, although some other people did, because in my mind, there's nothing wrong with waiting a little while before really jumping in to not have to deal with the early game bullshit. Some people just have shorter tempers and know from experience what the first few hours of mafia can be like. And he just could have been busy.
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself: ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves
another good point.
god im so confused.
this game is really hard.
can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.
shit i hope nobody notices me omg.
I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum
You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.
##Vote: Roundaboud
I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.
The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.
On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.
I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.
TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote: Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game.
roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote: This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.
If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg
On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.
On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT?
Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.
In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.
and therefore your conclusion?
I think it's kinda scummy.
I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p
on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.
Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.
well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.
Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.
##vote: TicaTica
Okay, so I'm not going to respond to the reads directly, because we're further into the game now, but he seems a little sure of them for so early and on his first post. I guess he read carefully. My main problem with this post is the early vote on TicaTica. This seems like an easy early vote based on how TicaTica was acting in thread before the game started, and in context the earlier reads in this post kind of seemed as merely something to stand on; Koshi seems to be inventing reads so that he can say that he has done more than go for an easy target.
Additionally, I personally don't like sharing too many details about my townreads with the thread because it gives mafia a lot of information, so I kind of have a bias against people who do this, but I do read the first half of this post as I'm choosing a bunch of players that seem like they have actually done things so far to say I think are town. It seems like any four names might have gone there.
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?
Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.
I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba.
Updates will follow later.
Contentless. I just wasted thirty seconds looking for anything useful in this post.
Pretty much the same thing as ketomai, expect less to go off of, but scummier in the process. Waiting for the next stage of your quest. It seems that my brain decided to pick up on people who I needed to see more of to decide on. I guess I'll just have to wait and see in the morning. That was kind of a whole lot of effort seemingly wasted, but I don't want to just delete the whole post because I'm unsure about people. I want to get my thoughts out in the open so that we can discuss them. I don't think it was really necessary to do a double filter analysis on these two specifically after actually reading through each of their filters, but I guess it can't hurt town.
That was my early thoughts-while-I-read-filter post. My vote on Koshi was much more based on the post I just linked. This post was kind of just me saying I needed to see more of him to decide.
It's only the first paragraph where you introduce your meta. You say that people often scumread you when you are town and you say that you are often killed day 1, as town. If you die a lot day 1, as town, you probably don't make many huge posts about reads. So a huge post about your reads, like that one, goes against the town meta you mentioned. You're going against the your town meta.
It's that plus ever since that huge post your posts have been pretty short/consolidated.
On June 18 2014 12:34 sinani206 wrote: By the way.
I just pulled up Palmar's point list in Excel, and with the one scum data point we have, and assuming kushm4sta was town to be safe, there are 7 names below KotC. I'm not saying that there are all five (or four) scum in there, but most the common reads that people have right now are in there. I think we should definitely lynch in this list.
ketomai
ritoky
Holyflare
sandroba
strongandbig
VayneAuthority
mattisfoolish
I do think that Holyflare changed his play significantly from when Palmar made the list, so I guess we can leave him alive until we lynch through at least some of the others.
You might say that the point system is arbitrary, but it does seem to be working so far, so unless a bunch of outliers start appearing, it does seem to me like something that we as town can use to our advantage.
Look, you see this? This is why I think he's mafia.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar?
I said you were probably mafia because your play is similar to last game, where you were mafia. If you say your play is similar every game as mafia that adds to my conviction. I am accusing you of playing similarly.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?
On June 18 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote: Hello CR you are mafia. How do you plea?
rainbows; you are in my top town circle
but qs like this do not help ppl read you; nor, does it help to get a read off rainbow.
Regarding Ketomai: yes still scummy; however, if we look @ opportunity cost: Sandroba represents a much bigger trophy than the unknown ketomai.
Sandroba out of his own accord promised to contribute, and has failed to deliver. This is beyond a policy lynch now, we are into day3; and sandroba filter has not cracked 1 page; nor has it produced a single post of merit.
We have lazy, high-profile scum here and a perfect opportunity to eradicate scum
~moc
That's about where I am regarding Ketomai as well.
~Foolishness
Sorry you died in allstars.
What is your read on CR, Ritoky, Batsnacks, and gumshoe?
Also give me a read on HF?
These are the ones I care about most rn.
Since I'm here I'll answer these questions for fun.
CR could be mafia, I can easily picture a universe where he is, but he's nowhere near the scummiest in this game. The only thing he has going against him is day 2 which: a lot of people looked bad day 2 myself included.
Ritoky reads town to me. I think his low activity can be explained. He has been pushing for a chrom lynch for a while but no one really seems to agree with him. Since no one agrees with him, he probably feels less compelled to post. He did make some effort to give other reads, which is good. I still just think he's frustrated and dwelling on chrom because he has a strong feeling.
As for myself, I think it's unusual how many people are town reading me. I feel like I'm being manipulated.
Gumshoe commented on a couple useless posts (Palmar's numbers post, a couple IRL stuff posts) which is scummy to me. But then there was that post where he thought there was a 3rd party in this game, which, I don't believe mafia would have made that mistake. Mafia, in the universe I am imagining, would have read the OP. Gumshoe isn't someone I'm going to vote for today.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?
Compared to the people that mafia did choose, HF reads remarkably town. Especially with his roleblock claim.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: You still think I'm mafia?
On June 11 2014 17:05 sinani206 wrote: OK, well first of all, I have slight town leans on the people who have pushed/FoSed me so far (mostly toward the earlier stages of today) because I don't think that an organized scum team with at least one player who played with me before would be dumb enough to push me on day one because of my meta. (For those of you who don't know, I generally read scummy to most and am often lynched day one.) As an easy target, any mafia pushing me would probably lead to their deaths later in the game, being seen as pushing for an easy lynch. Again, although I ended up taking a few lines to type this paragraph out, this is just a little thing to not and is really not that consequential as of yet, especially because I haven't played in a while and there are a lot of new faces (to me) in this game.
Secondly, just by catching up in the thread, not reading filters yet, I have red feelings on ketomai and Koshi. I'm going to read through the filters as I type this out and let you guys see my thought process as I analyze these two. I'm probably going to end up saying things a lot of others have already said, but bear with me.
On June 11 2014 11:38 ketomai wrote: I'm going to place my vote with roundabound until I can catch up with the thread. Exo is the one running against him and there's not much that indicates scum for me yet.
I'll post again tomorrow after work with some more detailed opinion.
This thread is incredibly hard to read/follow on my phone.
Not the ideal first post. As others have said, one post --> vote and the whole two person race to get lynched idea is wishy washy in that he's trying to show that he's pressuring someone and he doesn't really want to contribute.
On June 11 2014 11:51 ketomai wrote: @roundabout I skimmed both situations and you were the more likely one of the two; I thought that should've been obvious. I'm casting the vote early in case something happens so I don't get instant modkilled. Obviously when I'm done reading the thread and thinking about things I'll most probably give my opinions and change it up. Until then, you can pretty much disregard my vote for you as filler after a cursory glance at both situations.
Basically more of the same; placing a vote but saying it isn't important is like... I took way too long trying to find a simile. I'm sure you guys get it.
On June 11 2014 12:00 ketomai wrote: How is fallacious if I'm not even making an argument, lol. I do not think you are scum, just moreso than Exo at this very moment.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
It's also not very smart of me to just eventually vote for you anyway if I were mafia.
If I were mafia, it''d be a lot easier to just stash away my vote somewhere since your bandwagon is already gaining steam. If I were trying to save exo as mafia than him flipping would eventually lead to my demise.
Don't worry, lol.
Votes are for mafia. Killing town is mafia's win condition.
On June 11 2014 12:10 ketomai wrote: Well, whether or not my belief is incorrect or not doesn't matter because it's inconsequential. I'm trying to reassure you because you're so up in arms about it but you can do what you want, I don't really care.
Again, I'll post a more detailed analysis if I can get home early enough to read tomorrow. I'm done replying to you for now!
I don't know how many times he has to say this, but I'm betting its going to be more than seven total. We're at four right now.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
"Hanging on" to you? I don't know what that means. You clearly have started the game; you've made a handful of posts and tried to contribute to discussion to some extent. Having suspicions on people like you is perfectly valid, and this poor substitute for a defense is not.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.
whos getting manipulated and where?
you must provide quotes and scholarly sources.
Anyone who is taking round or your comments about me seriously.
If you don't believe me, filter my posts and look where I began posting. The initial comment was pretty innocuous; the rest are to try to calm down round for the benefit of the town and round himself. I'm not the one trying to distract town with useless material.
I'm actually done here. I'll be returning with a content-filled post tomorrow instead of clogging up the thread and the town agenda with this garbage.
Why post the garbage in the first place? And you were distracting town with useless material: you basically said so yourself, and you made six posts about the same thing where one would have sufficed.
In conclusion, I'm not getting a townread at all here, but I'm not sure if this is scum either. I think so far, just in terms of timing and more under-the-surface feelings, you seem red, but I am willing to wait for the incoming "content-filled post" before I make a more concrete decision.
And then he waits two hours. Actually though, I don't really see that as scummy, although some other people did, because in my mind, there's nothing wrong with waiting a little while before really jumping in to not have to deal with the early game bullshit. Some people just have shorter tempers and know from experience what the first few hours of mafia can be like. And he just could have been busy.
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself: ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves
another good point.
god im so confused.
this game is really hard.
can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.
shit i hope nobody notices me omg.
I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum
You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.
##Vote: Roundaboud
I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.
The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.
On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.
I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.
TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote: Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game.
roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!
This post is Howling like a boss.
Why?
Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?
The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.
On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote: This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.
If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.
Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.
Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote
awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg
On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote: Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.
what was your post then
Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest
##Vote: sinani206
Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.
On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT?
Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.
In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.
and therefore your conclusion?
I think it's kinda scummy.
I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p
on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.
Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.
well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.
Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.
##vote: TicaTica
Okay, so I'm not going to respond to the reads directly, because we're further into the game now, but he seems a little sure of them for so early and on his first post. I guess he read carefully. My main problem with this post is the early vote on TicaTica. This seems like an easy early vote based on how TicaTica was acting in thread before the game started, and in context the earlier reads in this post kind of seemed as merely something to stand on; Koshi seems to be inventing reads so that he can say that he has done more than go for an easy target.
Additionally, I personally don't like sharing too many details about my townreads with the thread because it gives mafia a lot of information, so I kind of have a bias against people who do this, but I do read the first half of this post as I'm choosing a bunch of players that seem like they have actually done things so far to say I think are town. It seems like any four names might have gone there.
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?
Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.
I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba.
Updates will follow later.
Contentless. I just wasted thirty seconds looking for anything useful in this post.
Pretty much the same thing as ketomai, expect less to go off of, but scummier in the process. Waiting for the next stage of your quest. It seems that my brain decided to pick up on people who I needed to see more of to decide on. I guess I'll just have to wait and see in the morning. That was kind of a whole lot of effort seemingly wasted, but I don't want to just delete the whole post because I'm unsure about people. I want to get my thoughts out in the open so that we can discuss them. I don't think it was really necessary to do a double filter analysis on these two specifically after actually reading through each of their filters, but I guess it can't hurt town.
That was my early thoughts-while-I-read-filter post. My vote on Koshi was much more based on the post I just linked. This post was kind of just me saying I needed to see more of him to decide.
It's only the first paragraph where you introduce your meta. You say that people often scumread you when you are town and you say that you are often killed day 1, as town. If you die a lot day 1, as town, you probably don't make many huge posts about reads. So a huge post about your reads, like that one, goes against the town meta you mentioned. You're going against the your town meta.
It's that plus ever since that huge post your posts have been pretty short/consolidated.
I haven't played in over a year. Obviously I'm trying to be more active than I used to be. The meta I described is not something I want to adhere to, just something that an experienced scum team would know. It's actually pretty WiFoM=y, so looking back on it I don't really know why I mentioned it in the first place. I guess its because I had townreads on you and Chrom, and both of you were pushing me. Basically what I was trying to say was if you were scum, your scumteam would have had an experienced player who knew that pushing me on day one wasn't worth it, so pushing me made me think green. I probably should have just made it a separate post because having it be the introduction to my first actual contribution was kind of misleading.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar?
I said you were probably mafia because your play is similar to last game, where you were mafia. If you say your play is similar every game as mafia that adds to my conviction. I am accusing you of playing similarly.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?
On June 18 2014 10:46 batsnacks wrote:
On June 18 2014 10:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 18 2014 10:16 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 18 2014 10:15 roundabound wrote:
On June 18 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote: Hello CR you are mafia. How do you plea?
rainbows; you are in my top town circle
but qs like this do not help ppl read you; nor, does it help to get a read off rainbow.
Regarding Ketomai: yes still scummy; however, if we look @ opportunity cost: Sandroba represents a much bigger trophy than the unknown ketomai.
Sandroba out of his own accord promised to contribute, and has failed to deliver. This is beyond a policy lynch now, we are into day3; and sandroba filter has not cracked 1 page; nor has it produced a single post of merit.
We have lazy, high-profile scum here and a perfect opportunity to eradicate scum
~moc
That's about where I am regarding Ketomai as well.
~Foolishness
Sorry you died in allstars.
What is your read on CR, Ritoky, Batsnacks, and gumshoe?
Also give me a read on HF?
These are the ones I care about most rn.
Since I'm here I'll answer these questions for fun.
CR could be mafia, I can easily picture a universe where he is, but he's nowhere near the scummiest in this game. The only thing he has going against him is day 2 which: a lot of people looked bad day 2 myself included.
Ritoky reads town to me. I think his low activity can be explained. He has been pushing for a chrom lynch for a while but no one really seems to agree with him. Since no one agrees with him, he probably feels less compelled to post. He did make some effort to give other reads, which is good. I still just think he's frustrated and dwelling on chrom because he has a strong feeling.
As for myself, I think it's unusual how many people are town reading me. I feel like I'm being manipulated.
Gumshoe commented on a couple useless posts (Palmar's numbers post, a couple IRL stuff posts) which is scummy to me. But then there was that post where he thought there was a 3rd party in this game, which, I don't believe mafia would have made that mistake. Mafia, in the universe I am imagining, would have read the OP. Gumshoe isn't someone I'm going to vote for today.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?
Compared to the people that mafia did choose, HF reads remarkably town. Especially with his roleblock claim.
On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: You still think I'm mafia?
Yeah. Been waiting for you to vote.
##Unvote Vote:Ritoky
All I wanted for you was to talk. Obv. Have you checked out any of my town games? What do you think of other people's reads on me? I'm being read as town by them, most of them have played multiple town games with me.
And I agree with the HF read.
I disagree with the itoky read, but I can see why you think he is town.
I just want to point this out. Remember how I compared your play to CR? CR unvoted me as soon as I replied to his vote post too.
On June 18 2014 14:20 Chromatically wrote: I'm really sorry again that I can only drop a few posts before leaving, but it's really late for me and I this is my only opportunity for this right now. Leave questions for me if you have them and I can probably get them tomorrow morning. I'll make sure to step it up when I can.
On June 19 2014 02:09 TicaTica wrote: I don't see MILF as mafia. Sandroba's going to die regardless likely. CR was the only major thing that stuck out to me last night. His ketomai read was completely nonsense.
On June 19 2014 10:56 batsnacks wrote: Everyone should just vote their biggest town read tomorrow. Obviously what we've been doing isn't working we need to change it up.
you seem pretty intent on getting marv killed
yet you've never actually said what your problem with him is
Because I think it would be fun. That's my motivation for everything.
Just go back and look. Does ritoky's "plan" sound like something that he thought out thoroughly at all? I believe he was just bored and tired with how the game was going and took it upon himself to change things in the moment.
I mean I was ready to vote Marv today. This game wasn't going anywhere but a town loss without drastic measures.
Seriously go look at the votes. We don't have to lynch ritoky just because he did something rash. Going John Rambo and making a huge mess in the thread is not what mafia does.
On June 21 2014 11:00 batsnacks wrote: Seriously go look at the votes. We don't have to lynch ritoky just because he did something rash. Going John Rambo and making a huge mess in the thread is not what mafia does.
That's like half the goal of being mafia. Hell I fake hypno'd myself as mafia one time and it come rely mindfucked town because they kept on coming back to, "but if he was town then we're in such a bad position." It wasn't good play in the group I was in but it was fun as hell and left town second guessing every move.
I bet part of the reason you still talk about that one time you fake hypoed is because it was out of the ordinary for you to do that.
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote: Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.
##Vote: marv
This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.
What are you going to do about it?
Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.
I feel like that is a pretty good plan.
Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.
I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.
I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.
On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote: Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.
##Vote: marv
This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me.
What are you going to do about it?
Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow.
I feel like that is a pretty good plan.
Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan.
I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.
I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.
But if you cared about the town winning, and thought I was town, then why aren't you pushing a more plausible option? I am pretty sure marv is a lot of people's very unlikely to lynch list. If you just want to be here to say I told you so when I flip VT, then proceed. But if you actually care about town winning, I would suggest pushing a more plausible/likely to happen case.
More plausible option? Like who? I'm confident in this moment that there is zero chance of you not being lynched, even if I vote marv all day.
On June 21 2014 12:14 Rainbows wrote: im cop. i checked myself. i came back mafia. i must be insane cop. i also checked amiko. amiko came back green. host is mafia. lynch amiko.
Fake.
I'm the real cop. I didn't check anyone this game because I respect people's privacy.
On June 21 2014 10:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Hahaha, I'm laughing so hard right now. He claimed a green on his top scum lynch, and a red on me, who wasn't even MENTIONED in his reads?! Look in spoiler below.
Scum alert 101.
Even if he rescended, and is VT this is a super bad play. Like wtf.
Plus, I've been scum reading him since I've gotten into this game, and he claims a red on me?! He's never even mentioned in his filter at all that I was a scum read.
And the fact he does this when CR is about to get lynched, makes me wonder if he is doing it to get off of a mafia member, more likely a pr.
Ritoky, if you are town, that was the stupidest play ever. If you are mafia, well then gg, you just outed yourself.
##Vote: Ritoky
Look at the self-focus in this post. There's so much attention to the fact that he said she was mafia. There's been a lot of that in bunnies' posts, like with TicaTica.
On June 21 2014 10:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Hahaha, I'm laughing so hard right now. He claimed a green on his top scum lynch, and a red on me, who wasn't even MENTIONED in his reads?! Look in spoiler below.
Scum alert 101.
Even if he rescended, and is VT this is a super bad play. Like wtf.
Plus, I've been scum reading him since I've gotten into this game, and he claims a red on me?! He's never even mentioned in his filter at all that I was a scum read.
And the fact he does this when CR is about to get lynched, makes me wonder if he is doing it to get off of a mafia member, more likely a pr.
Ritoky, if you are town, that was the stupidest play ever. If you are mafia, well then gg, you just outed yourself.
##Vote: Ritoky
Look at the self-focus in this post. There's so much attention to the fact that he said she was mafia. There's been a lot of that in bunnies' posts, like with TicaTica.
He just faked a red check on me. Without even having me as a scumread previously in his reads. And greened his top scumread.
Why wouldn';t i focus on myself here. It has to do with me?
I'm pretty sure no one's reason for voting ritoky is because he said you were mafia; no one except you.
On June 21 2014 10:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Hahaha, I'm laughing so hard right now. He claimed a green on his top scum lynch, and a red on me, who wasn't even MENTIONED in his reads?! Look in spoiler below.
Scum alert 101.
Even if he rescended, and is VT this is a super bad play. Like wtf.
Plus, I've been scum reading him since I've gotten into this game, and he claims a red on me?! He's never even mentioned in his filter at all that I was a scum read.
And the fact he does this when CR is about to get lynched, makes me wonder if he is doing it to get off of a mafia member, more likely a pr.
Ritoky, if you are town, that was the stupidest play ever. If you are mafia, well then gg, you just outed yourself.
##Vote: Ritoky
Look at the self-focus in this post. There's so much attention to the fact that he said she was mafia. There's been a lot of that in bunnies' posts, like with TicaTica.
He just faked a red check on me. Without even having me as a scumread previously in his reads. And greened his top scumread.
Why wouldn';t i focus on myself here. It has to do with me?
I'm pretty sure no one's reason for voting ritoky is because he said you were mafia; no one except you.
No, we are voting ritoky cause he fake claimed a red on a town, greened someone who claimed miller, and then when he realized it was going to shit, he rescinded and claimed VT. He will be a question mark from here on out unless a cop checked him, but even then he could be GF, so i think it's in town's best interest to get rid of him.
Yeah and the fact that he said you were mafia has nothing to do with it. He could have said anyone was mafia. It's not important that he said you were mafia. He could have said chrome was mafia and it probably would have worked.
On June 21 2014 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote: OWS, could you explain to me where I'm doing the white-knighting thing and why that makes me mafia in your eyes?
day 2.
and also your "lynching for information" post in regards to ritoky was so unbelievably bad that you should die for that alone.
I'm not lynching ritoky for information. My vote is currently on ritoky because the way in which he came out as cop does not line up at all with a town fakeclaiming cop to pressure someone.
to be fair though, the way i fake claimed cop is so bad that it doesn't really line up with anything.
If someone other than you is going to be lynched today it has to be because people think you're town. Having "formal" reasons for picking bunnies as your red read might help. Maybe you should make a case. Even if you get lynched, we'll be able to quote it later.
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.
On June 21 2014 15:41 batsnacks wrote: Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.
doesnt really matter if he never had a red check on her.
It DOES matter because he told us he had a red check on her. Usually when you say you have a red check on someone you vote them?
EPT
