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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 12 2014 02:37 GMT
#1461
Okay, two people who I want to lynch today - roundabound and strongnbig.

Roundabound - He was super active yesterday when the heat was on him. He has one of the longest filters out of everyone. Today these are all the posts he has made:

On June 12 2014 09:28 roundabound wrote:
Hi,

BM went from ugly duckling into beautiful swan.
##Unvote

Robik is flying & im playing video mafia.

Defaulting to Ketomai who hasnt provided any of his promised analysis.
##Vote: Ketomai

~moc


On June 12 2014 09:34 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

~moc

On June 12 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 09:36 Erandorr wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

~moc


im doing filter reading right now of people who I know can be useful except marv hes a spammer

Do what you want.

My suggestion is to read the thread. Theres still 24hrs.

Selective reading, produces selective context, and meaningless reads.

~moc

On June 12 2014 10:04 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 09:45 Erandorr wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:36 Erandorr wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:34 roundabound wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:
why isnt foolishness doing something you can sheep did those guys get scum this game

Where are you up to in the thread, pls

~moc


im doing filter reading right now of people who I know can be useful except marv hes a spammer

Do what you want.

My suggestion is to read the thread. Theres still 24hrs.

Selective reading, produces selective context, and meaningless reads.

~moc


If you think that I have enough time to read the entire thread and think selective reading produces bad reads that do not benifit town and probably by that logic let scum get away with bad posting, you still would let me do what I want? You are so sweet

I try to be as accommodating to all types of filth.

Thank you for the kind words.

~moc


First he dropped a vote on Ketomai. Ketomai promised many times that he was going to give some reads today. I also hold Ketomai to his promise, but when this vote was made, the day was still early. Round didn't even wait to see if Ketomai would deliver or not. This seems to me like a very forced reason to vote.

All the other posts in this day have been interacting with Erandor, who just arrived at the thread. Round is obviously active at this time, but this is the only activity that he could provide. It seems to me like he wants to seem active but doesn't want to participate in any real discourse at hand.

Now let's look at strong's posts:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

On June 12 2014 04:14 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.



Stupid

Everyone is stupid

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .

On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


1st and 4th post are just random summaries. The 2nd and 3rd posts are very indicative of scum. Strongandbig is active at this time, and the only thing he posts about is something non-alignment indicative and happened like 15 pages ago. This is clearly an attempt to seem like he's engaged in the conversation when he's actually avoiding it altogether.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 12 2014 02:42 GMT
#1462
Terrible post Chair.

Im playing vid mafia.
& robik is in a plane.

Tough mammories.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 12 2014 02:44 GMT
#1463
chairman, why is roundabound scum? you say its because he voted ketomai because its early in the day, even though its not really early and ketomai clearly made a promise to deliver and didnt.

i fail to see the issue with either of these players and that "analysis" really bothers me.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 12 2014 02:48 GMT
#1464
actually, since youre posting so much analysis on other players, lets see some on ketomai.

after all, hes a hot topic for you and you kind of overlook his broken promise and the fact that moc has a natural progression of reads...
Retired.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 02:59 GMT
#1465
OK so this is in no way any sort of claim. I haven't really analyzed the game/names of town to try to break the thread /ot

+ Show Spoiler +
From now on, I will be posting as Yoda

Interesting, the thread is
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
June 12 2014 03:33 GMT
#1466
On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 03:35 GMT
#1467
On June 12 2014 11:42 roundabound wrote:
Terrible post Chair.

Im playing vid mafia.
& robik is in a plane.

Tough mammories.

~moc

to hakuna your tatas, you need
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 03:37 GMT
#1468
HMMMM much potential, chairman ray has.

perhaps, my padawan, he can be.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
June 12 2014 03:38 GMT
#1469
Actually, since I won't be back in time for the end of the mafia day tomorrow and won't have a chance to change my vote, I'll change it to strongandbig, so it doesn't have a high chance of being a useless vote. I guess if strongandbig actually arrives to defend himself, it better be dazzling because my vote can't change.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 03:51 GMT
#1470
take off, my wagon has

I feel so accomplished. Yeesssssss.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 12 2014 03:52 GMT
#1471
that was actually a pretty good post i think.

i dont want to lynch ketomai anymore.
Retired.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 03:59 GMT
#1472
The skills of chupazi reach new heights with the coming of Bill Murray. Breaking news live from Alakaslam.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 12 2014 04:12 GMT
#1473
On June 12 2014 11:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
chairman, why is roundabound scum? you say its because he voted ketomai because its early in the day, even though its not really early and ketomai clearly made a promise to deliver and didnt.

i fail to see the issue with either of these players and that "analysis" really bothers me.

On June 12 2014 11:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
actually, since youre posting so much analysis on other players, lets see some on ketomai.

after all, hes a hot topic for you and you kind of overlook his broken promise and the fact that moc has a natural progression of reads...


Regarding ketomai, he was active yesterday between 7 and 8 PST. He said he was going to post his read the next day. I was waiting until after his active period until I call him out on his promises. It's unfair to give someone a scumread for not delivering before they come on. Given that ketomai has posted some reads, this issue is no longer relevant.

Just to elaborate on my issue with those two players, I find it scummy when players are active, but their posts are not very productive. From a town perspective, a town will have the incentive to participate in the discussion at hand, and if there is not enough discussion, promote more discussion. A mafia already knows who everyone is, so discussion doesn't really benefit them directly and they're not likely to put in all the time and effort doing so. What mafia wants is to blend in and look like they are being active. The easiest way to do this is to make posts that don't require you to really read the thread or cause a lot of people to reply to you. This is evident in round's posts when he chose to interact with a new player coming in. This doesn't require him to read any of the discussion that's going on, and there's nothing to reply to those posts. Since round gave an excuse on both their absences today, I'll re-evaluate on this point. In strongandbig's posts, he picked on some weaker posts that were made like 15 pages ago. Those posts were not even relevant to the discussion at hand and had already been dealt with ages ago.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 04:13 GMT
#1474
On June 12 2014 11:42 roundabound wrote:

robik is in a plane, seeking the lands north of this Alakaslam fool that hangs around herr.

~moc

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 04:19 GMT
#1475
no, no, no hehe Trying to get people to bandwagon I am not, alakaslam.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 12 2014 04:20 GMT
#1476
ok this is my new plan.
look at each wagon as it is formed now.
sheep the wagon that the better players are on.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 12 2014 04:22 GMT
#1477
that plan didn't really work
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2014 04:38 GMT
#1478
On June 12 2014 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 10:35 batsnacks wrote:
People voting ketomai:

Why vote vayne or mattisfoolish?

I personally don't really have issue with any of those candidates, why are VA and the hydra better than ketomai?


Even before ketomai posted his promised analysis post I think he contributed more to the thread than VA and mattisfoolish. If we're going to lynch a lurker why not lynch the worst offenders? VA at least seems to be reading the thread because every time someone mentions his name he responds. He just chooses to make all of his responses meaningless. Ketomai, like I said even before the analysis post, was doing better than that. Then there's mattisfoolish who, even as a hydra, still only has two posts; a vote and a comment about how me and CR were fighting.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 04:39 GMT
#1479
meaningless, his responses are not. hmmm, yes, yes hehe
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 12 2014 04:40 GMT
#1480
On June 12 2014 13:39 Bill Murray wrote:
meaningless, his responses are not. hmmm, yes, yes hehe


Maybe you can clue me in then because I have a feeling he isn't going to.
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