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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 11:56 GMT
#2218
On June 13 2014 20:55 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:48 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:47 HaruRH wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:
I read scum based on votes. Not a surprise, but I'll read how the votes move and deduce the main scum suspect.

Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts.


So which is it? If you base people off scummy posts kush must be at like 100%


Posts and votes* I like votes more. Sometimes I tunnel.

how would you analyse your own votes and reasons


How would I analyse my own votes and reasons? Am I supposed to say I am scum?

Would you?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2224
On June 13 2014 23:08 Chromatically wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.

He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.

me-no-likey.

I completely agree with this. I think that the people who look worst from the Cats flip are those who ignored the case on him entirely.

Scum wouldn't want to sheep a scum lynch that is already set because they think that it would look bad (ie look like a bus). Scum also wouldn't want to push some other target because the chances of them actually diverting the lynch at that point were near 0, and it would just draw attention to them after the flip.

Basically, they have no options for giving a read on Cats. If they say Cats is scum, then they have no excuse not to sheep onto Cats. If they say Cats is town, then they draw attention to themselves for defending the scum lynch (and they had really no good reasons to call him town). So they would totally ignore the case.

I could imagine that this won't be true for all of them but it really makes a lot of sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#2237
On June 13 2014 23:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch

MZ
Sandroba
Ketomai
ObiWanShinobi

I assume this is still Foolishness posting?

TL is really annoying today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 15:12 GMT
#2255
On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
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On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 16:31 GMT
#2328
On June 14 2014 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On June 14 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2014 01:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 14 2014 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
you don't think he follows the stuff he said himself?


I thought he was joking tbh

if making the vig a shitty player is his real balance strategy then xD

the point is that if mafia having enough KP is a worry, he would be unlikely to give town a lot of KP (2 2-shot vig)

so yes, i think a town-vigi would be very suspicious of MZ right now

which makes me think that mz wouldn't randomly claim. possibly.


it doesnt make sense from either alignment so I wasn't really concerned with that point. unless we are in resolution and im not aware of it... (we aren't)

Hm, I like it. If MZ is town and gets shot because he is vig that is great because atm he would be a mislynch in the making. Although maybe not now that he claimed.
It would also please me greatly to see that koshi was wrong on pretty much everything again this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 16:35 GMT
#2332
On June 14 2014 01:34 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 14 2014 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
cop checking robik tonight

is that before or after you shoot kush? :p

Probably when he is done with saving you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 17:20 GMT
#2357
On June 14 2014 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
yamato is also removed from the townlist. His early posting was pretty ok but he's not contributing. Plus he said he was happy with me leading a lynch, but had his vote parked pretty uselessly and never changed it.

I still don't like his early read on Koshi. Since we are already talking about TMI this could be a legit case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 17:42 GMT
#2361
On June 14 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 14 2014 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 14 2014 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
yamato is also removed from the townlist. His early posting was pretty ok but he's not contributing. Plus he said he was happy with me leading a lynch, but had his vote parked pretty uselessly and never changed it.

I still don't like his early read on Koshi. Since we are already talking about TMI this could be a legit case.

why were you strongly townreading me on d1 when normally you're super wary of me?

I wasn't strongly townreading you for the whole day. Started roughly when you were interrogating ritoky. And why would I not? I agreed with pretty much everything you did/said.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 17:44 GMT
#2362
Especially when you started taking control and pushing in the right direction (in my opinion) for the lynch there was no reason to not townread you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 20:01 GMT
#2401
Well played MZ. ^_^
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 20:40 GMT
#2413
On June 14 2014 05:37 marvellosity wrote:
omg holland are fucking DESTROYING spain

Yes, it is quite hilarious.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 13 2014 20:42 GMT
#2416
On June 14 2014 05:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 14 2014 05:37 marvellosity wrote:
omg holland are fucking DESTROYING spain


...

forget i said anything. i dont even care.

god i hate making cases.

Why are you so angry? Yeah, I read your case and to be honest Koshis reads are pretty horrible for the most part but that sadly does not make him scum necessarily.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 11:12 GMT
#2512
On June 14 2014 16:21 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote:
Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that.


Go ahead, but make sure rainbows is lynched next after me if it occurs. I will feel so good to actually deduce out a mafia after 2 games :D Looks like I need to sacrifice for town at the scale of Palmar :D It's ok though, Palmar had already left me a great impression after detention mafia and I really liked how he sacrificed himself here this game too, with mafiabait. ILL GLADLY BE MAFIABAIT TOO, LYNCH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW RAINBOWS

That is certainly not what Palmar would do. Your first duty as a townie is not get mislynched.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 11:18 GMT
#2513
I am not impressed by the case on chrom the only relevant part is this:
On June 14 2014 18:08 ExO_ wrote:
That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible.

and I don't think this is enough for me to want to lynch him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 11:24 GMT
#2514
On June 14 2014 19:52 ritoky wrote:
Koshi - i actually like koshi a lot less now than i did yesterday simply for 1 comment he made: "thread sentiment". now i get when you tunnel on someone who you think is mafia really hard and everyone else who you read as town sees thinks the guy you're tunneling on is town; and doubts can start to creep into your tunnel. but (at least for me) that happens down the line a bit a couple or more days, and usually accompanied with said explanation. but he just backed out of the read on chrom and some of his other ones a bit too fast. i don't know if i would call him scum by any means, but his stock be falling for me. idk, flipping a read for "thread sentiment" doesn't seem very town mindsetty...just seems like caring about appearance.

and i don't remember who asked the question that prompted that response, but they just seemed okay with it afterwards, like it wasn't an odd response. idk about that.


Backing out of a read because other people you trust are disagreeing with you is not scummy. Admitting to do so because of thread sentiment neither. Would you do that as scum? Or wouldn't you rather try to fabricate a better reason?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 11:43 GMT
#2515
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:
So I haven't read really anything that happened during the night. Only guy I'm surprised didn't die is Marv, but I'll assume that mafia are medic dodging.

Haru is Mafia for the following reasons:

- Blatant insecurity about his image, using sarcasm in order to deflect pressure off of himself. Calling his votes placeholders do he does not have to commit.

- Ignoring the KotC case completely. Town would probably weigh in, but scum are afraid to be wishy-washy about the issue concerning their scum partner. Scum do not want to vote their guy, OR appear to not want to vote him. Avoidance is the best way to do this.

- Keeping multiple avenues open during D1 for lynches. Town do this, so do I, I didn't care if we lynched like 10 different people. But Haru posts very thin or nonsensical reasons for his 'suspects' (CR gaining towncred later with koshi pressure lolwut). Town would just be like "ok ill lynch this guy because lurk / because shitpost / because giant douche". The way Haru tries to rationalize the CR vote makes little sense to me. ALL of his votes have been either "not serious" (Koshi, himself) or really bad reasoning (CR), or epic sheepmode on Ritosky.

- OMGUS Voting myself, an easy town mislynch, by going hard after the wishy-washy post I made about KotC OMGUS.

I don't know about the bolded. I feel crux of this case is argument 2 (underlined) which has already been said before. And I don't think I agree with argument 1 - have my doubts about sarcasm being an indication for insecurity here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 11:52 GMT
#2516
I think we should force people like MIF and sandro to finally do something today. Especially sandro.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#2542
On June 14 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
Rainbows and haru look at other people and talk about them.

This.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#2543
Haru is OMGUSing like a mofo and it isn't helpful. I want to hear reasons besides "those guys think I am scum and therefore are scum".
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
June 14 2014 14:04 GMT
#2545
Anyone fancy a sandroba wagon?
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