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On June 21 2014 11:06 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 10:53 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 10:38 ritoky wrote:
and so people can stop trying to interpret my thought process, i will tell you it:
step 1) let's read mafia thread
step 2) nothing really interesting is going on here...it's the same people pushing the same exact reads on the same lurkers; and they refuse to doubt eachother
step 3) i am bored, maybe i should liven this game up
step 4) well i am pretty sure bunnies is mafia, maybe i should fake claim a red on her
step 5) hey look chrom is here, maybe i should use my going hard on him as an excuse to keep a green check alive
step 6) come out as cop too hard before getting reactions
step 7) cascade into flames
step 8) rescind claim
step 9) probably get lynched for bad play I was just going to ask about this. Thanks for posting it ahead to time. Question, what did you mean in step 5? Also, if you decided to fake claim a red on 27nb before you went in, why didn't you wait for 27nb to be on? From how you came out, it sounds a lot more like you decided redcheck 27nb after coming out as cop. 27nb posted like an hour or 2 before I made the claim the she was around and babysitting (might have had times wrong) so I thought she was here. Re step 5: people were going to push for checks either before or after the reaction, it is not uncommon (at least where I come from) to half-heartedly tunnel on your n1 green check as a cop. plus chrom was in the thread so he could give response to the situation. I still don't understand your step 5 though. You are not the cop, so what does Chrom's green check have to do with anything?
If you claim cop, people will ask for checks. They always do, even if you fake claim and rescind; they always ask for every check. So you need to have checks thought up. So I thought up a basic reason for a green check on chrom, mostly because he was here and I wanted to interact with him (since I had him as scum and every1 i town read had him as town).
If you're looking for a good answer, you're not in luck. It was bad play.
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On June 21 2014 11:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so i was being town read, and now im on the top of everyone's scum list.
And i see NO reasons as to why I am scum. Like no cases whatsoever.
Its obv mafia are trying to push a ml on me, which leads me inclined to believe i have a few mafia within my lynch list.
Trying to push a ML on you? There's like a unanimous vote on me. You know I am gonna flip VT and scared of the train coming for you tmrw?
Why are you so defensive?
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On June 21 2014 11:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 11:06 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 10:53 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 10:38 ritoky wrote:
and so people can stop trying to interpret my thought process, i will tell you it:
step 1) let's read mafia thread
step 2) nothing really interesting is going on here...it's the same people pushing the same exact reads on the same lurkers; and they refuse to doubt eachother
step 3) i am bored, maybe i should liven this game up
step 4) well i am pretty sure bunnies is mafia, maybe i should fake claim a red on her
step 5) hey look chrom is here, maybe i should use my going hard on him as an excuse to keep a green check alive
step 6) come out as cop too hard before getting reactions
step 7) cascade into flames
step 8) rescind claim
step 9) probably get lynched for bad play I was just going to ask about this. Thanks for posting it ahead to time. Question, what did you mean in step 5? Also, if you decided to fake claim a red on 27nb before you went in, why didn't you wait for 27nb to be on? From how you came out, it sounds a lot more like you decided redcheck 27nb after coming out as cop. 27nb posted like an hour or 2 before I made the claim the she was around and babysitting (might have had times wrong) so I thought she was here. Re step 5: people were going to push for checks either before or after the reaction, it is not uncommon (at least where I come from) to half-heartedly tunnel on your n1 green check as a cop. plus chrom was in the thread so he could give response to the situation. I still don't understand your step 5 though. You are not the cop, so what does Chrom's green check have to do with anything? If you claim cop, people will ask for checks. They always do, even if you fake claim and rescind; they always ask for every check. So you need to have checks thought up. So I thought up a basic reason for a green check on chrom, mostly because he was here and I wanted to interact with him (since I had him as scum and every1 i town read had him as town). If you're looking for a good answer, you're not in luck. It was bad play. I'm trying to see this from a perspective where the play wasn't planned well. So you needed to have some fake green check, I understand that. But to put your #1 scum as the greencheck isn't the something I can see you doing 'on-the-whim'. If I was cornered and needed to produce a fake greencheck right away, I would say marv. I'll give this some more thought, but things just aren't lining up atm.
why would any1 night 1 check marv after he led the lynch on a mafia, even more a mafia that reduced kp?
you wouldn't have been believed lol.
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On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.
##Vote: marv This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me. What are you going to do about it? Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow. I feel like that is a pretty good plan. Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan. I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though.
I know you're supporting me bat, but I agree with this ^
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On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.
##Vote: marv This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me. What are you going to do about it? Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow. I feel like that is a pretty good plan. Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan. I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though. I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now.
But if you cared about the town winning, and thought I was town, then why aren't you pushing a more plausible option? I am pretty sure marv is a lot of people's very unlikely to lynch list. If you just want to be here to say I told you so when I flip VT, then proceed. But if you actually care about town winning, I would suggest pushing a more plausible/likely to happen case.
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On June 21 2014 12:10 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 11:58 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:52 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:45 batsnacks wrote:On June 21 2014 11:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 11:23 batsnacks wrote:
Anyway every time I sheep marv town dies, so I won't be doing that today.
##Vote: marv This vote is even more stupid than the vote on me. What are you going to do about it? Vote ritoky then lynch you tomorrow. I feel like that is a pretty good plan. Why not vote marv with me? At least consider it as an alternative to your plan. I feel that if you are going to vote marv, SnB needs to flip first. The vote on day 1 was between SnB and a mafia. Would be extremely weird for marv to take the lynch off a town and onto his mafia buddy, costing them 1 kp. I can see him doing it if SnB was mafia though. I'm not saying you're wrong but lets be real. No one is going to switch off of ritoky because it's the easy answer and people want the easy answer. Ritoky made a mistake and now everyone gets to punish him for it. That's what people like doing. I don't think the easy answer is the correct one this time so screw the majority I'm voting marv for now. I'm glad we are keeping this case open though. There is so much information here that if we look enough, we can determine a very high likelihood if ritoky is town or if ritoky is mafia. Every lynch after this will be more of a coinflip because nobody will pull another ritoky. If we only get two mislynches, I sincerely hope this isn't one of them.
It is, unfortunately I probably put you guys in MYLO the rest of the way. Sorry.
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On June 21 2014 12:15 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 12:14 Rainbows wrote:
im cop. i checked myself. i came back mafia. i must be insane cop. i also checked amiko. amiko came back green. host is mafia. lynch amiko. Fake. I'm the real cop. I didn't check anyone this game because I respect people's privacy.
fake, i am the cop, i have a green on chrom and a red on 27nb 
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question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?
if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip"
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On June 21 2014 12:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?
if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip" Anyone who immediately jumped on me, and anyone who immediately jumped on you. Also, one who has hard defended you to gain town cred. But this is on the speculation that you are not mafia.
anyone isn't really names. why not names?
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On June 21 2014 12:41 Rainbows wrote:
Everyone not voting ritoky should vote Chairman btw.
Id also vote him.
do you have an updated case from recently on him that you can quote?
and how do you think he fared in this recent chaos? did he move up/down on scum scale? same? why?
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On June 21 2014 12:47 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?
if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip" If you have an idea on this, you can post it. If you flip VT, we'll take your reads into account, otherwise we'll just ignore it. The most likely case is that there's not enough people active to swing the votes in any other way.
i think chrom is town, marv is town, ticatica is town and that's pretty much it out of the interaction.
chrom is town cuz his claim makes sense imo, marv is town cuz marv, ticatica is town because of how ham he went to the point of almost receiving a warning/removal from the game.
i think 27nb came out by far the worst, i think rainbows came out pretty shady, i think holyflare and batsnacks are a littlebit on the strange side as well. would have to re-read it all to give more detail.
what about you? what do you think?
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On June 21 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:
last time i.made a case, on keto, nobody read it.i just dont care anymore cus only a few townies actually tried this game
how is this a town mindset at all? lol.
i guess you guys just do wanna take the easy way out and ML a town.
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On June 21 2014 12:57 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 12:36 ritoky wrote:
question for anyone and everyone who wants to answer: when i flip VT, who do you think looked the worst amidst all of this? why?
if you don't believe i am VT, then replace "when i flip" with "in the world that i flip" I forget who it was that +1'd my case, maybe CR or Exo. But I didn't come out of my case thinking that it's a 1000% slam dunk. Like it's half association on unflipped players. I think it's a reasonable-ish set of points on both you and bunnies. Plus VA has an ok point on "me being so scum on you gives you an ok shot to be town."
It was chairman ray who +1'd your case.
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On June 21 2014 13:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i cant read into this mess at all. this is all complete unreadable nonsense.
somebody hold me.
you can't squeeze 1 coherent thought or read out of an explosion of activity?
or you don't want to?
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On June 21 2014 13:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 13:20 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 13:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i cant read into this mess at all. this is all complete unreadable nonsense.
somebody hold me. you can't squeeze 1 coherent thought or read out of an explosion of activity? or you don't want to? ...either?
so you don't want to comment on the largest amount of activity in like 4 days, and we should believe you're town......why?
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On June 16 2014 17:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
we need to focus on four things:
a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons.
b) pushing our reads within reason
c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other.
d) playing the game.
I started reading your filter cuz you literally have left nearly no impression on me at all this game.
I came to a couple realizations:
#1) you still leave no impression on me...and i am beginning to wonder if that's by design?
#2) you've given very few reads
#3) what you previously said is directly contrary to the advice you were giving town earlier.
so have you adopted the not playing the game mentality?
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On June 21 2014 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 13:47 ritoky wrote:On June 16 2014 17:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
we need to focus on four things:
a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons.
b) pushing our reads within reason
c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other.
d) playing the game.
I started reading your filter cuz you literally have left nearly no impression on me at all this game. I came to a couple realizations: #1) you still leave no impression on me...and i am beginning to wonder if that's by design? #2) you've given very few reads #3) what you previously said is directly contrary to the advice you were giving town earlier. so have you adopted the not playing the game mentality? i dont give a shit about you because youre getting lynched with or without my input, and you probably gave the mafia a free pass for today. again. there, i actually gave you a read and thats way more than you deserve for the move you pulled.
your lack of drive to solve the game in any way or even talk about the game is almost as bad. not quite, but almost.
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i sincerely hope obiwan is mafia because that is a piss poor attitude for a town to have.
can understand bunnies though, i have fake red checked her in 2 of the 4 games we have played together
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On June 21 2014 14:06 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 14:03 ritoky wrote:i sincerely hope obiwan is mafia because that is a piss poor attitude for a town to have. can understand bunnies though, i have fake red checked her in 2 of the 4 games we have played together have either of them worked?
i claimed one and the game promptly ended soon after due to mod error (she was scum). this one i messed up.
so uhhhh....1 of them was halfway successful?
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On June 21 2014 14:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 14:06 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 21 2014 14:03 ritoky wrote:i sincerely hope obiwan is mafia because that is a piss poor attitude for a town to have. can understand bunnies though, i have fake red checked her in 2 of the 4 games we have played together have either of them worked? Nope. Been town in both.
thought you got recruited the night before the game ended?
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