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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 12:29 GMT
#1104
you're probably town yam.

now if you were only the slightest bit sheepable :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 12:36 GMT
#1110
On June 11 2014 21:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
you're probably town yam.

now if you were only the slightest bit sheepable :/

I really don't care if you think I'm right, all you've done this game is call me terrible.

If you want to talk about reads, go ahead, but for now, you're just shitposting like the rest of the thread.

I am not saying that I'm certain about anything, because this game is always played with a large degree of uncertainty, but someone has to move the thread away from how it's been going.

you're missing my point, but it doesn't matter

although your post does kinda encapsulate what i was referring to pretty well.

anyway, carry on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 12:44 GMT
#1114
On June 11 2014 21:43 yamato77 wrote:
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On June 11 2014 21:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 21:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 11 2014 21:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 21:33 yamato77 wrote:
On June 11 2014 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 21:26 yamato77 wrote:
RE: Koshi

On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:
ObiWanShinobi:
Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted).
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.

im just gonna sheep him forever.


On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.


On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

Try English.
And Logic.

But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like


roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting.

hows the weather up there?


On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again.


Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town.


hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help




Chairman Ray:
Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town .
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys.

On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
First scumread for me: roundabound

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On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.


The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.

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On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.


I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.

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On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.




TehPoofter:
Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game.



roundabound:
Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:
This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.

If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.

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On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet.

Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last.

Nailed you, bitch.


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On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb.



On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote





awkward corner aka might lynch will watch:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.

Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.

On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206



TicaTica:
Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.


On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.


On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:
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On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game.
I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.

and therefore your conclusion?

I think it's kinda scummy.

I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p

on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.

Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.

well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.

Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.



##vote: TicaTica


I initially felt Koshi was town for this post, mostly because I agree with a few of the reads.

Namely, I had an early town lean on Banks for how he approached the game with enthusiasm and a burst of activity. While he's been spammy and rather silly at times, I do not see any nefarious motives in the poofter filter. Koshi picked up on this as well, which is a point in his favor.

I also shared a townread on Chairman Ray early on, because his posting showed obvious effort. While I disagree that roundabound has looked scummy, he obviously has a different perspective, and that is not damning. That said, I don't really know how good CR is at playing scum, so there exists the possibility that he could be mafia, which is why I will update my read soon.

I obviously also agreed with Koshi that roundabound looked town, because I've seen Robik post THE EXACT SAME WAY in a game of this size before, and the thread reacted in the exact same way as well. Mocsta is more difficult to read early, but I think Robik's head of the hydra is really town. Also he's high activity/high emotion early on so more townie points in general, outside of the meta comparison.

I agreed with the Chrom read at the time for the same reason Koshi lists; the sinani case was bad and definitely the sort of reaching play a mafia would make early on so he appears to be scumhunting. I haven't read Chrom's filter since, so he is also on my list, though I remember him asking a rather pointless question about my read on him that does not do him any favors.

On June 11 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.

I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.

I will continue my quest tomorrow.


His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them?

Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me.

I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba.

Updates will follow later.


Koshi also notes what he thinks is an incongruity in sandro's posting.

First sandro says this:

On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote:
koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode.


And then this:

On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote:
hi =)

you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe.

Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start

No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started.
On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote:
No sorry my towns are town.

You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are.


While obviously sandro is just saying that Koshi's reasoning for calling his towns town is bad, Koshi thinks (and takes issue with the fact) that sandro is calling his reads bad, which is consistent with how he has posted thus far.

On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.

I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.

I will continue my quest tomorrow.


He doesn't seem overly concerned with being wrong about his scumreads. I disagree with sandro that his townreads were terrible. While they appear thin, because Koshi doesn't really go into detail like I do, I actually think there were solid reasons to read those people town at that time, and Koshi picked up on the right posts.

While he's not LOCK CLEAR, he's not my choice for the lynch for today.

You went with meta for your VA read. Do you think Koshis play is in line with his town meta?

Koshi doesn't really play town in any one discernible way, so the argument doesn't really exist that he's "playing different than how he plays town".

I heavily, heavily disagree.

The only thing you've said is that his big post "doesn't seem very townkoshilike"

You need to provide a more substantive argument for him being mafia, because I currently disagree.

There are many little things that could be listed and I don't care to do it but a main point is that the townkoshi I know interacts with the thread.


Does it not occur to you that he's playing different than his usual game intentionally? It's the first thing I thought when I saw "tryhard filter starts here"

he writes stuff like that all the time at beginning of games
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 12:51 GMT
#1122
i think the long and short of it is that we need to wait till he posts some more.

so that we may judge him with all our ferocity, but in a just fashion. probably.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 13:51 GMT
#1128
wow. Koshi became not-fun. how sad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 16:12 GMT
#1162
I like the pushing sinani contradiction thingy. Let's hear what you got, Koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 16:21 GMT
#1166
none of that actually makes much sense tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 16:22 GMT
#1169
tempting to lynch you for being an asshole, koshi
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 17:39 GMT
#1202
On June 12 2014 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey marv, tell me who's scum.

it'd be much more fun for everyone involved (actually i'm just thinking of me) if you told me who was scum instead
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 17:41 GMT
#1203
On June 12 2014 02:39 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 12 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving.


Explain to me why batsnacks is scum. He posted 4 red names and 3 FoS in a 5 scum game. Most scum stick to 1 scumread. Maybe 2. I rarely see scum fake 7 scumreads with almost no reasoning.

Because of the terrible and illogical nature of some of his reads.

Do you think the terrible and illogical is the preserve of only one faction...?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:08 GMT
#1245
On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
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On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .

Post by post is pretty bad actually, usually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:11 GMT
#1247
On June 12 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:00 Chromatically wrote:
On June 12 2014 04:22 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote:
On June 12 2014 03:36 ritoky wrote:
Idk, I don't think Koshi's suspicions of Chrom are completely unwarranted. I found this interaction very strange:

On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game.
I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.


At the time, I don't feel like JAT had done anything that was alignment indicative in the slightest, so I don't really know why Chrom would ping sinani for a read on him. I just think in some regards you were baiting him.

However, sinani's response is pretty horrible imo. It reads forced, noncommittal, and not really substantive.

I think JAT was right to pounce on it and for good reason and I think he seems more town for it.


I explained why I asked this.


And I didn't like your explanation.

JAT made a joke/dodged sinani's question and you have this expectation of him that he was supposed to get a strong read off of it. His response is crap, but sinani says he dodged it and has to go. Then you criticize him for not scum hunting.....the guy just said he was leaving?

Did I really? Funny, I don't remember that.

I expected that, if sinani thought that JAT's post was weird enough to ask him a question about it, sinani would mention the post or the question in some way in his read on JAT. He doesn't, and posts something highly noncommittal instead. And, again, this is all in the first few hours of the day.

But sorry, I forgot that leaving the thread excuses you from scumhunting.


You're right, we should all start hunting scum while we have no accessibility to the thread.

Also, you contradicted yourself in here. Just sayin.

I don't particularly like sinani's response either, as I said, it was forced noncommittal, and lacked substance. But I do agree with Koshi to some degree; I think your asking of the question in the first place is suspect. And then your follow-up is way too strong in proportion, it reeks of TMI to me.

can you explain exactly what you mean by this for me, please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:13 GMT
#1249
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.

remember oats on like d4 in ## and i was absolutely convinced he was mafia

but eventually i had to let it go because everyone didn't seem to go for it no matter how hard i pushed it

search in your heart
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:14 GMT
#1250
On June 12 2014 05:12 batsnacks wrote:
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On June 12 2014 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .

Post by post is pretty bad actually, usually.


Marv you need new adjectives. "Bad" and "terrible" are getting stale.

you are just atrocious

appalling
despicable
awful

your hair smells of feces

your aura has the consistency of sewage
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:20 GMT
#1257
On June 12 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.

remember oats on like d4 in ## and i was absolutely convinced he was mafia

but eventually i had to let it go because everyone didn't seem to go for it no matter how hard i pushed it

search in your heart

No. Chrom can still easily be scum. People are just not seeing that I do not want him instantly killed. I just say that he should be watched.

This entire wagon on me is wrong btw. And the one on batsnacks probably as well.

I don't think I'm interested in pursuing either of you today. Can we be carebear scumhunting buddies now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:23 GMT
#1259
On June 12 2014 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.

remember oats on like d4 in ## and i was absolutely convinced he was mafia

but eventually i had to let it go because everyone didn't seem to go for it no matter how hard i pushed it

search in your heart

No. Chrom can still easily be scum. People are just not seeing that I do not want him instantly killed. I just say that he should be watched.

This entire wagon on me is wrong btw. And the one on batsnacks probably as well.

I don't think I'm interested in pursuing either of you today. Can we be carebear scumhunting buddies now?

meh, I can abandon ship on the tryhard stuff. It simply isn't working out.

well i think i'm over you and Exo now, which is what i was feeling when i went to bed last night

kingofcats, ritoky, ketomai may be interesting but i need more

I'm not really sure on your MZ stuff, MZ can sometimes come across pretty useless as town at the start (he got lynched as town twice in two games just recently) whereas in PYP:LoL where Meapak was mafia, I thought Meapak looked really townie and productive early on until he went off the rails against you and turned really scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:33 GMT
#1263
On June 12 2014 05:32 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.

Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it.


Different places have different meta, I guess. On the mafias that I used to play (warcraft 3 custom map mafia), the meta was to shittalk as much as you can d1 and lynch the guy who is the most serious. Tl mafia's meta is to over analyse everyone d1, get on a policy lynch wagon and cry.

Don't shit-talk something you don't understand.

TL towns over the past 6-9 months have had an abnormally high hit-rate on mafia day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:35 GMT
#1264
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually

Hmm.

*looks at Haru*

hmmmmmm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:38 GMT
#1268
On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually

Hmm.

*looks at Haru*

hmmmmmm



Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.

first game or not, the difference is striking.

how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#1272
On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually

Hmm.

*looks at Haru*

hmmmmmm



Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.

first game or not, the difference is striking.

how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?


For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.

that's a totally incorrect lesson to take. Also not what I was referring to with regards to how you're playing.

Anyway I'm going to sit on this for a while and see what happens. I'm pretty tempted to vote for you though, which I guess must be quite annoying for you because i haven't specified why. but i'm not going to right now. maybe i should read your filter ;D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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