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FAQ session:
Q) 'omg haru didn't you give rainbows 50% scum rating why 20% now'
A) Rainbows is kinda town imo because of how hard he tried to push me. I don't see how a mafia would dare to do this.
Q) 'omg haru if chrom is on the top of your list why no vote him'
A) Switching votes should not be the only indication of my scumreads.
Q) 'Why is XXX on XXX%?'
A) For me to know, for you to find out.
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On June 16 2014 03:14 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 02:54 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote:
I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please. Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all. No counter push? Kush, no? Sandroba, no? The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote. Its indicative of lack of leadership. Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation. Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). ~moc There's nothing coordinated with any of those pushes. There's no urgency. The closest thing is the Haruh/Rainbows thing. Votes right now show they don't in any way care about Fool getting lynched now and haven't all day. That makes him exceptionally likely to be town. I'm pretty sure that Haru is the mafia between Haru/rainbows, but I'm going to spend my time there.
Really? So you guys choose to ignore the elephant in the room? Even when I explained EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of the arguments pointed at me, getting pissed off at how people simply dig out the same shit over and over again to use as argument, when they refuse to read other posts which explain why this is so?
So tell me tica, what case do you have against me? Bring it out. I'll be kind and link a post of mine that answers this.
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On June 16 2014 03:16 Rainbows wrote:
So yeah. Wagon Haru plz Vote him all day.
If you cant do that vote on CR for being the second scummiest person in thread with his errandor vote.
If you can't do that vote sandro for policy inactive.
I decree this the ultimate plan.
And you think stuff like this don't qualify for Rainbows being the scum? Really?
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you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys
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On June 16 2014 03:26 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote:
you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys Dude, talk about overreaction.. wtf. You have ONE, read (1) vote on you. If town, the best thing you can do is "continue to' push reads OTHER than Rainbows. ~moc
Nope. Chrom with his semi read. Everyone else with the yea I think haru is scum cos....???'
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On June 16 2014 03:47 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:
I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.
Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.
Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote:
Exo joins me on my town totem.
Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks I really dislike when people give townreads for literally no reason. Even moreso, most people were reading Chrome and bat as town already. I don't find this definitive, but I'd lean a shade towards mafia. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. This is a really odd response if Haru is town. His response is defensive which isn't alignment indicative imo; but there is something specific that I find interesting about this. Is most cases where someone pushes against you, many times the town target wants to feel out the person who's pushing against them. In the case of Palmer who hadn't done anything really, this is often especially important to get him to explain his viewpoint. Haru didn't feel like it was important at all to try and figure out Palmer's alignment at all. That's pretty odd. What I find more interesting about this is the response to Palmer is quite different from the following response: Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH The thing about this is that Haru is so sarcastic about this. He's also exceptionally indignant which I find more often comes from mafia. He's not in any way defensive or protective about people being dismissive about his reads. He doens't even show any care about them. It's moreso that he is trying to dismiss being seen as scum than he's trying to fight for any of his points. FWIW, Marv had bad feels about Haru earlier on too. Another interesting thing that I see is that Haru doesn't really follow up on his reads whatsoever. He makes points that he finds important, but he never revisits them. He doesn't consider or move to re-evaluate reads. There is literally zero possibility of Haru being town. None of his reads are anything which he holds any sort of conviction about. Chrome was originally town totem, but now he's his top scum read. Neither time is there any reasoning for it. He's essentially just omgus'd whoever has attacked him for the littlest thing. At worst, we remove a bad town who we don't want or need at endgame. Mostly likely though we lynch scum back to back. #vote.
So tica, how much are you willing to bet?
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On June 16 2014 03:47 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:
I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.
Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks.
Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 23:32 HaruRH wrote:
Exo joins me on my town totem.
Town totem:
Chrom
Exo
batsnacks I really dislike when people give townreads for literally no reason. Even moreso, most people were reading Chrome and bat as town already. I don't find this definitive, but I'd lean a shade towards mafia. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. This is a really odd response if Haru is town. His response is defensive which isn't alignment indicative imo; but there is something specific that I find interesting about this. Is most cases where someone pushes against you, many times the town target wants to feel out the person who's pushing against them. In the case of Palmer who hadn't done anything really, this is often especially important to get him to explain his viewpoint. Haru didn't feel like it was important at all to try and figure out Palmer's alignment at all. That's pretty odd. What I find more interesting about this is the response to Palmer is quite different from the following response: Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH The thing about this is that Haru is so sarcastic about this. He's also exceptionally indignant which I find more often comes from mafia. He's not in any way defensive or protective about people being dismissive about his reads. He doens't even show any care about them. It's moreso that he is trying to dismiss being seen as scum than he's trying to fight for any of his points. FWIW, Marv had bad feels about Haru earlier on too. Another interesting thing that I see is that Haru doesn't really follow up on his reads whatsoever. He makes points that he finds important, but he never revisits them. He doesn't consider or move to re-evaluate reads. There is literally zero possibility of Haru being town. None of his reads are anything which he holds any sort of conviction about. Chrome was originally town totem, but now he's his top scum read. Neither time is there any reasoning for it. He's essentially just omgus'd whoever has attacked him for the littlest thing. At worst, we remove a bad town who we don't want or need at endgame. Mostly likely though we lynch scum back to back. #vote.
Fine. I decided I shouldn't go for the condescending&pessimist|Haru anymore. From now on, Haru flicked the switch.
I will not reply to your first point, since disliking someone posting townreads without evidence would apply to almost half the people here.
I started being condescending after marv's meta attack on me. That left quite a large scar. So I started playing like someone who don't care anymore. Because I really didn't care anymore.
I hope you read that post in context. I was so pissed that marv tried to meta me through 1 game, that I exploded lol.
I didn't follow up my reads... no I did follow up on rainbows.
If you read properly, Chrom did something that made him come to one of the top (he was supposed to be below rainbows). However, with rainbows being struck out, I deduced that chrom was my top scumread. There was. Read my filter properly again.
No. I didn't omgus everyone/everything that attacked me. Ok maybe I did.
I will make you take back your words.
no you didn't lynch scum back to back.
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On June 16 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 02:48 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote:
It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.
Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.
Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly. It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him. This a very strange post btw. Why do I have to vote for HF if I think both are scum? Doesnt make any sense. Smells so iffy. Robik the magus what you think? Koshi... you posted a theory that relied on HF being scum. Very strange to suggest voting him then hm? Are you serious? It takes serious self control for me to no call you names right now. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:18 HaruRH wrote:On June 16 2014 03:14 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:54 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote:
I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please. Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all. No counter push? Kush, no? Sandroba, no? The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote. Its indicative of lack of leadership. Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation. Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). ~moc There's nothing coordinated with any of those pushes. There's no urgency. The closest thing is the Haruh/Rainbows thing. Votes right now show they don't in any way care about Fool getting lynched now and haven't all day. That makes him exceptionally likely to be town. I'm pretty sure that Haru is the mafia between Haru/rainbows, but I'm going to spend my time there. Really? So you guys choose to ignore the elephant in the room? Even when I explained EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of the arguments pointed at me, getting pissed off at how people simply dig out the same shit over and over again to use as argument, when they refuse to read other posts which explain why this is so? So tell me tica, what case do you have against me? Bring it out. I'll be kind and link a post of mine that answers this. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote:
you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks.
Enjoy the mislynch guys You are not only annoying I start to think you are pretty scummy for only coming into this thread if you feel the need to defend yourself overly aggressive.
Yes, I was annoyed. Annoyed -> annoying.
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Right. Ask me any questions now while I'm still in the happy mood.
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On June 14 2014 22:16 Rainbows wrote:
Also that "ill sac myself then lynch rainbows" is scummy to hell. if he is town he doesnt know im my alignment, and no town would put all eggs in basket at the risk of two mislynches. Getting yourself lynched is stupid to prove something in this situation.
Rainbows seem to disagree that if I get mislynched, he will get lynched too. Complete safety behind a wall.
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I'm in favour of a yamato lynch. ##Vote: Yamato
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Right, so before I get lynched (It's a possibility!), I need to apologise to everyone for playing such a bad town. Special mentions to marv and rainbows, I might have personally attacked them. Don't mind me. I was not in a terribly good mood.
My scumreads:
Koshi - make sure you all take a good look at Koshi. none of the HUGE POSTS promised arrived. Much empty promises.
Rainbows - as promised, one of us is mafia. figure it out by yourselves.
Chrom - He played very awkwardly. I filter dived him, but I have no time for a proper analysis. He definitely played very different from the town|Chrom in detention mafia. Yes, I'm meta-ing him now.
That's it. Don't feel disappointed. Don't cry about this mislynch. Thanks for the game. Was a learning experience about how to play a proper town d1.
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