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On June 11 2014 17:49 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 17:45 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 11:41 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you. remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1 Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts. it wasn't me who said that i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with... Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all.
well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on
pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about.
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On June 11 2014 17:56 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 17:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 17:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:45 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 11:41 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you. remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1 Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts. it wasn't me who said that i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with... Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all. well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about. Thanks I love pro-tips. But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town.
no, only really yamato.
and calling yamato terrible is always town
because he is terrible
"a bunch of people" - you have a penchant for the exaggerations, yes squire?
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On June 11 2014 18:00 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 17:59 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 17:56 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 17:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:45 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 11:41 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me
Mafia frequently do this to me
I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you. remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1 Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts. it wasn't me who said that i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with... Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all. well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about. Thanks I love pro-tips. But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town. no, only really yamato. and calling yamato terrible is always town because he is terrible "a bunch of people" - you have a penchant for the exaggerations, yes squire? Do I need to filter dive?
be my guest.
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On June 11 2014 18:15 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:02 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 18:00 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:59 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 17:56 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 17:49 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 17:45 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 11:41 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them
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remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1 Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts. it wasn't me who said that i have no idea how you think there are a lot of things i've said you disagree with, i haven't really said enough of importance to disagree with... Yeah sorry about that. I just sort of took Bill's word for it that you actually said that when apparently you didn't. So I was wrong. I'm wrong sometimes. Regardless of whether you said that or not I can't read you at all. well, if you don't know me pretty well, trying to read me this early is probably fruitless anyway, because i'll cast around until i find things to hang my hat on pro-tip: don't use hyperbole like "marv has said a lot of things i disagree with" as an extrapolation from one thing that you're taking someone else's word from. indeed my only obvious thread suspicion is koshi who you in fact agree with me about. Thanks I love pro-tips. But seriously you've just called a bunch of people bad so far which, while not alignment indicative necessarily, isn't town. no, only really yamato. and calling yamato terrible is always town because he is terrible "a bunch of people" - you have a penchant for the exaggerations, yes squire? Do I need to filter dive? be my guest. Actually, you're right. It's actually just the 1/4 of your filter that you spend calling yamato terrible. Which I'll comment was warranted. It seems I was misrepresenting you marv. Sorry about that.
Indeed. And honestly that's twice now. It makes it hard for me to put stock in anything you say. pls be careful about what you write, I don't want to have to doublecheck everything you say about anyone (obviously i happen to know everything I say, mostly, so that's easy). It'd be much better if we held hands, french kissed, and found ze evil scummers without making shit up. Unless you're scum in which case, do your worst D:
now i should probably go catchup on the rest of the thread, i got sidetracked by arguing about myself (always tempting)
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silly, your read on me isn't the concern ^_^
1: taking what BM said for granted and saying there were "many things" you disagreed with what i said (there aren't)
2: saying I called a bunch of ppl terrible (only 1)
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On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm
yes, i agree with this i think.
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On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm yes, i agree with this i think.
to clarify, specifically i don't like the bolded bits in the CR post, how it introduces itself and how it ends. Though i'm not particularly sure what i make of it right now.
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that's been my dating policy for years
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I only called yamato terrible because he should know better.
btw how do you be "controversial" as well as "blended in the background"?
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On June 11 2014 19:12 HaruRH wrote:
By being so controversal, you're ultimately ignored and become blended into the crowds of foolishness?
I wasn't looking for a philosophical answer, but thx Haru :p
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On June 11 2014 19:18 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't want to lynch Koshi for his post, because at least it was a consolidated effort, and it's the thought that counts, but I don't like his reads, which I feel were forced, nor do I like the content included within those reads. To further this point, I feel like his FoS + Vote on different people (he had a big case on 1, then votes the other) is very scummy, and indicative of scum FoSing their partner while voting someone else
ummmmm...
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"I don't want to lynch Koshi, but here are multiple reasons I find him extremely suspicious"
riiiiiight.
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although it's completely ridiculous, i think i'm ok with BM for now, so i'll just drop it
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na, Palmar was just trolling me. He likes to do that.
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On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA Show nested quote +-I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter.
you're completely missing the 2nd half of Ver's analysis, i.e. spending all his time talking about roles and other shit, which is the massive incongruency, and the incongruency is why he was mafia. That incongruency doesn't exist here because he's not doing anything else either. So using Ver to back up your read is pretty dodgerific
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then you're still fucking terrible.
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On June 11 2014 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
"i don't have to believe you have law exams" - yamato 2014
Prob end up in a signature somewhere.
Hakuna your tatas! (inb4 marv uses)
fuck you
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