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On June 12 2014 18:04 Koshi wrote: In which game did BH modkill himself and his 2 masonbuddies? The aborted pm game.
I don't like MZs push on VA. Easy to do and Vayne is known to not give a fuck as town. In my experience he isn't as blatant as scum.
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On June 12 2014 18:46 Koshi wrote: justanothertownie Why is ObiWan or CR scum?
I ask this because I think you are scum. I don't really want to lynch either of them right now. Why?
On June 12 2014 19:26 Koshi wrote:JaT response to getting called scum: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. Oh no! Did you gather that from your question to me? As scum in Intrigue (sadly only 1 example because there is only 1 example available because JAT seems to roll town only): Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 13 2014 07:28 Koshi wrote:First time you said you need to go but made 3 more posts. Maybe it is townie, but I don't remember you doing that in other games. But ok, not scummy for this: + Show Spoiler +On January 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote: You are seriously candidating for mayor rayn?
See you in ~ 3 hours. On January 12 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Apparently i thought Cheesecake was town last game, i wasn't the driving force behind lynching Corazon and Artanis was an easy catch on N1. But in the end kush might misremember that game..
Apparently in Extractor trick in the end of D1 my scumreads were gumshoe and yamato. I think thrawn can tell more about this.
Also in other games kushm4sta has played with me my D1 reads have been terrible. He won't elaborate more though. Ok, I don't know which games you are talking about but I will take your word for it I guess. On January 12 2014 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: ofc i am. Why are people doubting it? I just want to know if it is worthwhile to consider to elect you. Last post for now. On January 12 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote: jat, you didn't quite grasp rayn's dripping sarcasm there, did you I obviously didn't. Maybe cause I am in a hurry right now. But here you do it again, and it's not like you got a million posts. You have like 20 posts total back then and 8 are made "in a hurry": + Show Spoiler +On January 12 2014 12:48 justanothertownie wrote: Anyways I am off for now. It has gotten really late. On January 12 2014 13:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote: Has anyone talked to JAT in pms? I have been recently and I got the impression that he was making up his reads on the spot. Explanations were short and there weren't many conclusions. He also only talked about people that I mentioned first, something I noticed about my own scum mason play (esp the rayn chat) from Time to Die. Does anyone have similar or contrasting experiences with him in pm's? Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is. The thing about the restricted and intelligent thing that is lacking are these 5 consecutive posts of you On January 12 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 06:37 yamato77 wrote: Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.
It would be nice to know who it is, regardless. Why? The only time I played with Chezinu (PYP) he played really well and townie. On January 12 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne Mind = blown. On January 12 2014 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 07:53 Alakaslam wrote: What about a mayor you can WotC? I am open. Huh? On January 12 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 08:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote: [quote] Implied suspicion?
I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky. I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever. So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy. About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why? what do you mean why You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list? And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread? i don't like you to be honest i've never hated anyone in a game more than i hate you but i think you're town, i'm being petty This only answers the second question and not the first one. On January 12 2014 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth? I don't really get this either. On January 12 2014 11:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 11:35 Aquanim wrote:On January 12 2014 11:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: let's talk about how derrida is scum Yeah, OK. Reasons to think he's scum: list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them Reasons to think he's town: I got nuffin, but I do have... Reasons I'm not certain yet: he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement do you have a stronger read on someone else then? No. I have a couple of similar strength though. All I see in justanothertownie's two-page filter is kinda pointless oneliners in which he commits to almost nothing. For all I know he's doing work in PMs, but based on his thread presence so far he's another possible scum for me. This one isn't a scumread as such, but as long as Captain Obvious continues to post only "obvious" stuff and committing to nothing he's going to be next to impossible to read I think. And then there's the eight or so other lurkers. Of the active players I reckon at least most are town. Maybe you could point out the scummy things in my 2 page filter then? Or is my thread presence the only reason for your read? You don't even have one filter page and call other people lurkers... But I just glanced over some pages of PYP and you do this kinda one-liners there as well so mehhhh. okokok You are off the list. Is your confidence in your other reads of similar strength? Is this your case Koshi? Impressing.
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I like marvs lynchpool. Not that scummy on CR and haru but ketomai, kingofthecats, ritoky and snb are good lynches.
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That might be the worst case on me I have ever seen.
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On June 12 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:49 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:47 yamato77 wrote: And if you don't think his reads were legitimate, why not? It's like sandroba said - the reads are not the biggest problem here (although I disagree with some). The reasoning is. With what reads do you disagree and why? Because the bolded looks like bullshit. I didn't understand a townread on obiwan or CR at that point and I obviously disagreed strongly with your chrom scumread. Tica also wasn't very scummy to me.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 marvellosity wrote: also, no-one, which means no mafia, have really talked about this no-hoper before
this is a good sign I remember commenting on him.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote: He sure loves his filters. I am still feeling JAT more. Yeah, you are always feeling JAT and look like a retard in the process. Almost every game.
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On June 12 2014 21:30 marvellosity wrote: really i don't want to see if people agree with me, but if people can tell me reasons why KoC could be town, I'd like to hear them. Have none would lynch.
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On June 12 2014 21:32 marvellosity wrote: jat i'd much rather you engaged productively with the thread than bitched at koshi. But he deserves it and you know it. What would you like me to engage then?
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On June 12 2014 21:35 marvellosity wrote: well there are 6 mafia. i think i may have found one. maybe there is another in my list (honestly i doubt there are more than 2 in the list of 6 i gave).
maybe you could tell me why ketomai and s&b are or are not mafia, why you have reservations, why you don't, same with ritoky, MZ. Or anyone you like.
Anyone can do this actually. Well first of all I haven't got a townread on any of them and it's not like I haven't already said that. For detailed reasoning I would have to reread. Maybe I will do that soon.
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SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically
Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum I don't like this post. Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either). Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).
Has done nothing else except for complaining.
We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.
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Ketomai:
Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.
He then promises one content post and delivers this: + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls. I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic. Top votes: Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia. Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player. Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him. strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town. ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying). Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense. MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read. Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out. I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.
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On June 12 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote: incidentally YOSO also shows that Koshi is capable of making and believing really terrible cases on day 1 as town. just throwin that out there. I know. That's why I am not calling him scum right now.
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Hmm, KotCs returns when votes arrive. Coincidence?
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Ritoky:
Hasn't done much towny stuff. But I don't see that much scummy stuff either reading his filter. The TMI stuff IS weird and makes no sense but he is not backtracking, sticking to his guns and agressively so. This guy is new, right? I don't really see a new scum defend this that hard.
Not as good as a lynch as the other 2.
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MZ:
The thing I dislike the most here is the VA push. If it's just pure policy it is probably ok but not if MZ really thinks this is VAs scummeta. He could go either way. I think I would prefer lynching Ketomai/SnB/KotC over him right now.
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On June 12 2014 22:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 16:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 12 2014 16:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 12 2014 16:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 12 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 12 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:hey, you pointed out my hypocrisy. i guess youve earned an answer then.
i think your push on kush is really shallow and it makes me feel like ive missed something. kind of like last game. lots of your pushes were based on people not doing things and they really bothered me because its an easy agenda for scum to push.
but you were town so what do i know. how do i read thread someone help glob glob glob lets talk in a circle sure okay. So do you actually think HF is scum? nah, im making fun of him. So you think HF is town yet you unvoted Kush citing HF's reasons being shallow (and presumably scummy because of that) despite the fact that his reasons were exactly the same as yours? Explain. This is another post I don't really see being genuine. Obiwan already said he was making fun of HF. Who really thinks that the things he wrote right before that are scummy then? I am just not amazed by KotCs contributions. He nitpicks on little things and it seems to me like he has problems finding something to post/is posting for the sake of having posted.
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On June 12 2014 23:26 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote: is that how you actually read it then? Coming from someone that said Round was scum for using a nickname i wouldn't put it past him to try that. The problem is it's difficult to tell if he's bad scum or just bad, that's why i FoS'd him. On their own they're not good enough reasons to lynch him but they count as points against him if he does something blatantly scummy down the road. Who isREALLY scummy/who do you think should be lynched today?
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Or is this bat stuff still all you got?
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