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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 00:59 GMT
#1104
On June 25 2014 09:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, can you explain the usefulness of each one of us posting our impressions on everybody?


So I use a lot of people reads to give reads on them. People progressions like I got to X is scum for Y reason. If you have someone listed as Town and then you vote them 20 minutes later and they didn't post you better have had some sort of epiphany.

It also is for selfish reasons as I'm just getting into the game kinda seeing where everyone ended up after a full day with a ML and a night kill. Thats a lot of info for people in the game. And while I'm reading through it helps me to gauge people's roles.

Why do you think giving reads would be in any way not useful? Also it doesn't have to be on everyone in game but by this point you should have a grasp on a decent amount of those playing that have been talking. I don't expect people to have reads on the inactives like myself (RiP Solar424) and Scott although he did have a bit more of a filter until we've settled in a bit.

Also don't forget the EOD thing! Thats important
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:01 GMT
#1105
On June 25 2014 09:57 Teemursu wrote:
Also, why is Epishade bolded town for you? I CTRL+F'd your filter and I didn't see you type his name before a single time.


He voted on him pregame but this is interesting good find Teemu.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:03 GMT
#1106
On June 25 2014 09:56 Teemursu wrote:
I can at least agree with you on KotC.



I think instead of calling him KotC we should make him a king of something new i.e. KingoftheClowns.
I will be doing this cause it seems fun.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:08 GMT
#1110
On June 25 2014 09:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, can you explain the usefulness of each one of us posting our impressions on everybody?


See also the 3 posts teemu made right after nydus' reads. Like I will be very shocked if Teemu isn't town this game he cares and is following up on other's reads not only on himself but his reads (KingoftheCarpets) and filter diving even on things that stick out.

This is why posts like this are useful they get people talking
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:09 GMT
#1112
On June 25 2014 10:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:56 Teemursu wrote:
I can at least agree with you on KotC.



I think instead of calling him KotC we should make him a king of something new i.e. KingoftheClowns.
I will be doing this cause it seems fun.

That's mean.


I'm a dog person so giving him way cooler names. If it really bugs him I won't but seemed like a fun thing to do.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:10 GMT
#1113
On June 25 2014 10:09 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, oh please.

I can feel the warm pockets calling for me.


No need to be in the pockets hop on my back I'll carry you to victory bbygirl. We might have to kill Nydus though
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:14 GMT
#1115
On June 25 2014 10:13 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:09 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, oh please.

I can feel the warm pockets calling for me.


No need to be in the pockets hop on my back I'll carry you to victory bbygirl. We might have to kill Nydus though


No, I agree. I think pressuring him right now is a great idea.


I mean this in the nicest way possible but his filter sucks and he should be doing better. Coming out and Hard defending someone as town is just so damn weird too.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:14 GMT
#1116
as in he spent hours getting out his thoughts that someone was town when its not even close to EOD and finding scum is way more important.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:33 GMT
#1126
On June 25 2014 10:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 09:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, can you explain the usefulness of each one of us posting our impressions on everybody?


So I use a lot of people reads to give reads on them. People progressions like I got to X is scum for Y reason. If you have someone listed as Town and then you vote them 20 minutes later and they didn't post you better have had some sort of epiphany.

It also is for selfish reasons as I'm just getting into the game kinda seeing where everyone ended up after a full day with a ML and a night kill. Thats a lot of info for people in the game. And while I'm reading through it helps me to gauge people's roles.

Why do you think giving reads would be in any way not useful? Also it doesn't have to be on everyone in game but by this point you should have a grasp on a decent amount of those playing that have been talking. I don't expect people to have reads on the inactives like myself (RiP Solar424) and Scott although he did have a bit more of a filter until we've settled in a bit.

Also don't forget the EOD thing! Thats important


Oh, alright. I thought you wanted from everyone in the game and that sounded strange to me. I have this feeling that it's a mafia thing to request such thing then create a ruckus when someone shifts their opinion on someone they have weak reads just to confuse town.

So, here it goes:
Templar
Haru
Teemu

TheKingOfTheCats
Hobbitus
[red] Epishade
meatpudding

2) I'll be here by the EOD

Templar, I've been voting and scumreading meatpudding since the beginning. Also, when I revealed my scumread on Epishade, I did before even Teemu mentioned it.
By the way, the huge galore on null reads was a response to Haru, who asked me to give a read on everybody reads.
I'm not trying to be defensive. I just want to clear this up.

By the way, thanks for the heads up concerning Teemu's approach on townies. I've read his filters and I may say that, although it's a little WIFOM, that his approach on townies can look suspicious. Nonetheless, he still looks town for me when building his logic.

By the way, I think meatpudding's flip would also clear this up. I'll hold on to my opinion that meatpudding is key to analyze the whole thread.

##Vote: meatpudding
Also, just to understand: what is useful to scum to reveal his thoughts on blue?



Thanks for doing that and voting! You're awesome. I don't understand what you mean by the last line that I bolded though.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:34 GMT
#1127
On June 25 2014 10:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:56 Teemursu wrote:
I can at least agree with you on KotC.



I think instead of calling him KotC we should make him a king of something new i.e. KingoftheClowns.
I will be doing this cause it seems fun.

That's mean.


I'm a dog person so giving him way cooler names. If it really bugs him I won't but seemed like a fun thing to do.

Call me what you like, it doesn't matter.


TheKingoftheCool
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:34 GMT
#1130
On June 25 2014 10:32 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:56 Teemursu wrote:
I can at least agree with you on KotC.



I think instead of calling him KotC we should make him a king of something new i.e. KingoftheClowns.
I will be doing this cause it seems fun.

That's mean.


I'm a dog person so giving him way cooler names. If it really bugs him I won't but seemed like a fun thing to do.

KingOfTheCanines

No?


Now I can't use that one way to go!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:35 GMT
#1131
On June 25 2014 10:34 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:56 Teemursu wrote:
I can at least agree with you on KotC.



I think instead of calling him KotC we should make him a king of something new i.e. KingoftheClowns.
I will be doing this cause it seems fun.

That's mean.


I'm a dog person so giving him way cooler names. If it really bugs him I won't but seemed like a fun thing to do.

Call me what you like, it doesn't matter.


TheKingOfScum


Talk in third person more.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:36 GMT
#1132
On June 25 2014 10:34 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry that I haven't been actively updating my reads >.<. A lot of my reads are kind of new from today since I read a lot of the things that I missed out on.

Teemu I thought at first that you were coming to really quick conclusions and I always figured that you were a player that waited a tad bit longer. I town read you for your forum activity, similar to how I used to read you in video, but realized that in a forum setting, you could probably change your playstyle so I threw you into null. I liked a lot of the logic that you threw out, I can give you examples if you want so I thought you were town again.

Epishade feels towny as fuck when I read through his filter. He's not instantly hopping on any "OMG I AGREE WITH YOU HE IS SCUMMY/TOWNY" bandwagons. He's trying to be objective and giving what I think are to be very strong reasons for his scum/town reads. For example, he also mentions how easily people townread me and Teemu, etc. and how he thinks that those people are scummy. For actual detailed reads that he gave, you can refer to his filter but if you disagree with me, I'll personally give specific examples.

Jabberwockzerg my read hasn't changed much on her.

Templar I thought you pushes were a little weird. I keep getting a towny vibe from you but your interaction with MP I didn't like at all.



Yeah, I'd actually like you to give examples and give your reason as to why you read both Epishade and myself town for those specific examples.

It's how I read you, and I like the fact that you're now being way more active like this, instead of preparing a bigger post for an hour or so.



villagery as fuck.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:37 GMT
#1133
On June 25 2014 10:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry that I haven't been actively updating my reads >.<. A lot of my reads are kind of new from today since I read a lot of the things that I missed out on.

Teemu I thought at first that you were coming to really quick conclusions and I always figured that you were a player that waited a tad bit longer. I town read you for your forum activity, similar to how I used to read you in video, but realized that in a forum setting, you could probably change your playstyle so I threw you into null. I liked a lot of the logic that you threw out, I can give you examples if you want so I thought you were town again.

Epishade feels towny as fuck when I read through his filter. He's not instantly hopping on any "OMG I AGREE WITH YOU HE IS SCUMMY/TOWNY" bandwagons. He's trying to be objective and giving what I think are to be very strong reasons for his scum/town reads. For example, he also mentions how easily people townread me and Teemu, etc. and how he thinks that those people are scummy. For actual detailed reads that he gave, you can refer to his filter but if you disagree with me, I'll personally give specific examples.

Jabberwockzerg my read hasn't changed much on her.

Templar I thought you pushes were a little weird. I keep getting a towny vibe from you but your interaction with MP I didn't like at all.



If you had to pick your top two townie posts that Epishade has made what would they be?

Also Jabber is a girl? I saw Hobbitus was too and Mtamburini now in the game too 3 girls is a lot for forum mafia.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:49 GMT
#1140
On June 25 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, it was addressed to Templar.
If you check my filters, You'll see that I revealed my thoughts on Haru being blue during night time. Wasn't a good idea, but I wanted Templar to explain why it would be a scum move. I understand his reasons but I still disagree that any scum would do such a move. WIFOM, IMO.

No need to apologise, Templar. I'm also having a hard time keeping all up


Haven't read up to the night phase yet but I'll check it when I get there. I'd say it depends on the context and such as to whether scum would do it. I'll address it when I read up to it.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:52 GMT
#1141
On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 09:49 NydusHerMain wrote:
Epishade
MeatPudding
Teemu
Hobbitus
JabberWockZerg
HaruRH (yeah I'm that confused about HaruRH ._.)
The_Templar
TheKingOfCats

If the person isn't listed, they haven't said enough for me to remember them in particular. If they aren't on the list, I'm going to say leaning scum but not comfortable voting on. I think my town list is too big but I'll re-evaluate it later.

With respect to the EOD, I'll stay up to make sure I make it.

I'm also not comfortable voting on TheKingOfCats right now because I feel like he's becoming more and more towny. I was more convinced he was mafia on day 1. I'll start voting when I see something scummy as fuck.

Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol.

I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me.

I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too.



I think its more scummy how much you thought about how a couple posts would make you look super scummy and how people might blame you for a death. I haven't read your posts so not sure where I stand but this post seems weird. Good on you for saying that its weird nydus has you as town though.


Can you explain why you think LT died then? Like any other theories assuming you weren't scum and shot him.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:57 GMT
#1144
On June 25 2014 10:48 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry that I haven't been actively updating my reads >.<. A lot of my reads are kind of new from today since I read a lot of the things that I missed out on.

Teemu I thought at first that you were coming to really quick conclusions and I always figured that you were a player that waited a tad bit longer. I town read you for your forum activity, similar to how I used to read you in video, but realized that in a forum setting, you could probably change your playstyle so I threw you into null. I liked a lot of the logic that you threw out, I can give you examples if you want so I thought you were town again.

Epishade feels towny as fuck when I read through his filter. He's not instantly hopping on any "OMG I AGREE WITH YOU HE IS SCUMMY/TOWNY" bandwagons. He's trying to be objective and giving what I think are to be very strong reasons for his scum/town reads. For example, he also mentions how easily people townread me and Teemu, etc. and how he thinks that those people are scummy. For actual detailed reads that he gave, you can refer to his filter but if you disagree with me, I'll personally give specific examples.

Jabberwockzerg my read hasn't changed much on her.

Templar I thought you pushes were a little weird. I keep getting a towny vibe from you but your interaction with MP I didn't like at all.



If you had to pick your top two townie posts that Epishade has made what would they be?

Also Jabber is a girl? I saw Hobbitus was too and Mtamburini now in the game too 3 girls is a lot for forum mafia.


I think Jabber is a girl unless I misread something o.O

Post 1: Read his explanation of me. Granted I'm town, I have been acting quite scummy in my opinion. His analysis is not something that I think comes from a mafia perspective.

Post 2



Thanks for the links the 1st one I had read 2nd one I hadn't. 1st one I commented on as not being definitive enough. I need to look at epishades town game previous to see how he made his reads.

2nd one is more townie I guess but he doesn't get bolded town for me.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:58 GMT
#1145
@epishade yeah I saw the post when Nydus linked it previous. I think I need to read the night to get a full feel of it.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 01:59 GMT
#1146
On June 25 2014 10:56 Teemursu wrote:
Nydus, do you not read the same adorable town tone from GlowingBear as I am?

Show nested quote +
Okay, so, supposed meatpudding is Mafia. What is he looking for with that question? Well, in my point of view, he is trying to know who is getting votes so him and his partners can set up a strategy as Mafia.


His whole blue thing during the night was a little awkward, but no reason to really drop him from a list or anything (not really saying you don't have him there because of that).


Seems like exactly what you're saying.

Glowings suspicion of me and my wanting people's reads did seem pretty villagery paranoia style not sure if I got "adorable" from him though.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 25 2014 02:07 GMT
#1148
On June 25 2014 11:01 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:
On June 25 2014 09:49 NydusHerMain wrote:
Epishade
MeatPudding
Teemu
Hobbitus
JabberWockZerg
HaruRH (yeah I'm that confused about HaruRH ._.)
The_Templar
TheKingOfCats

If the person isn't listed, they haven't said enough for me to remember them in particular. If they aren't on the list, I'm going to say leaning scum but not comfortable voting on. I think my town list is too big but I'll re-evaluate it later.

With respect to the EOD, I'll stay up to make sure I make it.

I'm also not comfortable voting on TheKingOfCats right now because I feel like he's becoming more and more towny. I was more convinced he was mafia on day 1. I'll start voting when I see something scummy as fuck.

Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol.

I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me.

I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too.



I think its more scummy how much you thought about how a couple posts would make you look super scummy and how people might blame you for a death.
I haven't read your posts so not sure where I stand but this post seems weird. Good on you for saying that its weird nydus has you as town though.


Can you explain why you think LT died then? Like any other theories assuming you weren't scum and shot him.


You think it's scummy for me to analyze my own posts, as town, from other people's perspectives just to see if my posts sound scummy at all? Analyzing how you think people would respond to your own posts is not a move that only scum would do, you know.


I'll put it this way All scum analyze their posts but not all town do. So if you're not worried about and analyzing your posts you're probably townie but I think its a scum trait to look at your posts and worry about how people perceive it. Like I just hit post after something I type up.

Basically All scum are going to be looking at each of their posts and worrying about how it makes them look not all town will.
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