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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:18 GMT
#417
On May 28 2014 10:25 layabout wrote:
i am not voting for a pro-murican

don't elect bunnies or mderg

ima read cell 1

l8rs


best post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:22 GMT
#420
On May 28 2014 11:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 11:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 10:25 layabout wrote:
i am not voting for a pro-murican

don't elect bunnies or mderg

ima read cell 1

l8rs


best post


You only think its the best post because of what i bolded...

And the fact he's from the UK


pretty much, what's your point?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:37 GMT
#427
On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.

We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.

##Vote: ritoky


So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:45 GMT
#431
On May 28 2014 11:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On May 28 2014 11:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno, 2/5 scum in the first few hours is pretty good I'd say.


who was your 2nd after Palmer? I'm assuming thrawn because of you town reading ritoky/Mz but just making sure. I am not sold on MZ he buddied up really fast to ritoky who vomited town all over the thread. But he had the early post about RNG that sounded town and the fact thrawn for all we know could be in the thread he never posts so reading him is difficult. I'm way more certain on Palmer though.


if thrawn doesn't play he's most likely mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:53 GMT
#438
On May 28 2014 11:50 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.

We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.

##Vote: ritoky

So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his?

My plan has nothing to do with current reads?


That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.


How can you even have a plan if it has nothing to do with reads? You like ritoky's plan but his is based on reads. If you like his plan you therefore must agree with his reads?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:54 GMT
#439
On May 28 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno, 2/5 scum in the first few hours is pretty good I'd say.


who was your 2nd after Palmer? I'm assuming thrawn because of you town reading ritoky/Mz but just making sure. I am not sold on MZ he buddied up really fast to ritoky who vomited town all over the thread. But he had the early post about RNG that sounded town and the fact thrawn for all we know could be in the thread he never posts so reading him is difficult. I'm way more certain on Palmer though.


if thrawn doesn't play he's most likely mafia


His scum play in Golden Sun was not much different to his town play in my eyes so we will see when he shows up, I feel like if I feel like I do about this cell right now as I do when they come time to vote I'll vote thrawn.

What you think of ObiWan? Do you really like layabout?
I get this odd feeling they both came into the thread upset or something maybe because we already caught Palmer and the noose is tightening around people like thrawn/Shaopi and tambo.


It's very different he's a lot more active and conversational as town. Golden sun is an example of him posting just to get by. Yuma is an example of his town play where he is very chatty and there are inbetweens but they should be ok to figure out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 02:58 GMT
#444
On May 28 2014 11:57 slOosh wrote:
Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan?


Who is running for mayor without a plan?


Also I missed this poofter:

What you think of ObiWan? Do you really like layabout?
I get this odd feeling they both came into the thread upset or something maybe because we already caught Palmer and the noose is tightening around people like thrawn/Shaopi and tambo.


twat face and no are my responses
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:02 GMT
#447
On May 28 2014 12:00 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:57 slOosh wrote:
Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan?


Who is running for mayor without a plan?


Also I missed this poofter:

What you think of ObiWan? Do you really like layabout?
I get this odd feeling they both came into the thread upset or something maybe because we already caught Palmer and the noose is tightening around people like thrawn/Shaopi and tambo.


twat face and no are my responses

I'm sorry.

Holyflare, what is your plan for Cell order?

On May 28 2014 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 28 2014 07:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not joking around. I will go to any lengths necessary to make sure HF gets no more power than he absolutely must have as I cannot trust him even slightly. Obviously even if scum get mayor it's not the biggest advantage but if there's someone who could use it to his advantage as scum it's. HF. And I'm not taking that chance.

As far as 'best use' of mayor role, I didn't play in the last one but I would assume you remove the 'don't ant this group at LYLO' types first? What was the past mayoral strategy?


I see that you will be a thorn in my election. That being said, I do not mind your aprehension, it is justified! However, I stake my reputation on this game, I will not make this another loss like last time! I will divulge to you the secrets of this game.

There are several approaches you can take:

A) The first lynches will be the ones you think are fairly obvious and will net town a few points.
B) The first 1 or 2 lynches will be coinflippy as you get rid of useless points of contention.

I suggest going with A) with the caveat that you let the talkers stay in the game to figure it out and not leave the weakest people till last.



Anyone that can possibly make a cell order when almost half the people haven't spoken yet is crazy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#451
Like I said, half the people haven't spoken yet. The only possible cell you could have a general idea about is the wave/palmar/poofter one because all the people have spoken and even then it's a reach at best until they have all spoken more. So that would be possibly 1, just 1 group, where you would put them at the start to get a point for town. The rest of the groups are so incomplete it is effectively worthless wifom to post an order when you have no idea what's going to happen.

The best you can do is outline what plan of action you are taking and then as a team we make an order together, right near the end of the day when we have as much information as possible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:09 GMT
#452
man batsnacks reads so much like lsb it's uncanny, even has bat in the name...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:12 GMT
#454
- Lynch lowest "contributing" groups first. This has already been mentioned once in the thread. Nominations, filter length, post count, meta, etc. could all be used as metrics for "contribution." High contributing people will have the most content to analyze in the end game, so it is beneficial to keep them around longer. More data is better.

- Analyze groups as though all three members could be mafia and lynch groups with "most mafia members." Conversely analyze groups as though all three members could be town and lynch groups with "least town members." Compare the two lists and check for differences. If three of the five mafia members could be in a single group, which group would you lynch first?


These are the two I have problems with. First of all, if you lynch groups with the lowest contribution you are essentially taking a shot in the dark because there is a lot less to look at when lynching that group. If this happens with 2 groups in a row then we end up already being 2-0 down and some easier to read people might be at the back of the line because they contributed a lot but ended up being mafia.

Secondly, if you analyse the groups in terms of "most mafia members" then you're essentially saying that the general consensus is that nobody has any idea who is mafia within that cell thereby making it another shot in the dark. Least town members is kinda alright-ish but also will end up in probably many meh moments.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:13 GMT
#455
On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?


I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:19 GMT
#458
On May 28 2014 12:17 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?


I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.

Oh god ... this is awkward ...

where was the question leading?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:30 GMT
#460
On May 28 2014 12:25 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:19 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:17 slOosh wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?


I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.

Oh god ... this is awkward ...

where was the question leading?

Well I was going to get at the day 1 cell. Palmar + Sentinel + Coag. Essentially (as I saw it when I read) was that the town wanted to lynch to clear inactives, basically adopting the "who don't we want at LYLO". As evident from how it went down, even had Palmar been town, it would have been a terrible cell as mafia have a larger than normal influence compared to traditional games.

By having an "active" group such as cell B go forth, there is bound to be interaction and a much better shot at hitting the right lynch.


we wanted the rayn/gumshoe/steveling cell to go first but rayn rage quit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 03:38 GMT
#462
well that's cool, have a town read for doing research
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 04:10 GMT
#464
On May 28 2014 12:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
well that's cool, have a town read for doing research

Why didn't you town read me. QQ.


Boo hoo?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 05:35 GMT
#477
I totally meant bum! Don't like the fake jedi still though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 05:36 GMT
#478
Wave why vote ritoky if you trust mz more...? Dafuk is that!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 06:08 GMT
#482
No point ever risking coin flips at the start when you can get +town points
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 28 2014 06:17 GMT
#484
How can you even decide groups before everyone has spoken. Much confusion. Very pushy!

Let's move away from this policy nono stuff and talk about the peeps! You start because I'm lazy and watching some cookery stuff
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