On May 30 2014 03:30 Holyflare wrote: mz we've got your reads on your cell, explain the rest of the game to us, who else is scum?
Ok gimme a sec to get everything together. I'll tell you right now I think it's Palmar from B because Palmar who doesn't give a shit is scumpalmar
Cell C: HF, you’ve been active all game and I generally agree with your reads and your “townpile.” I have you as town right now. Batsnacks wanted group C to go first because he felt he “had a grasp on it” but hasn’t actually provided any insight into the group aside from his one big post where he “didn’t like” and was “not a fan” of lots of people but did not provide any solid reads. At the moment, only real scumread is me for “buddying ritoky.” His to big posts were a summary and setup speculation. Overall not really impressed with what I’ve seen. ShaioPi is sadly less impressive than batsnacks. He calls HF, Tamburini, and ritoky scum and then never really revisits it. He doesn’t like group A and he wanted batsnacks to be mayor. Overall incredibly lurky and low content. I had called him scum for saying he didn’t like freedom but at the moment he’s the scummiest from group C imo.
Cell D Tamburini rng’d a list of scum and then afk’d, null. ObiWan is lurky as well. Has thrice promised a case and then reneged. The only real read he provides is sloosh as scum. There’s a casual open manner to his posts though imo so I’ll give him a pass until I see more substantive posts. I guess I’m cautiously optimistic about obiwan. Sloosh is active lurking and he chainsaw’s Odin by going after me. I personally think his case is hilariously bad and because I think Odin is scum, I’m gonna throw down the omgus and say that sloosh is the scum from Cell D. His active lurking and lack of reads is bad enough, the chainsaw is icing on the cake.
Cell E Layabout has been spectacularly useless, but he might be the scum from this group because he goes after ritoky, but then changes his tune after the lynch on me starts to pick up speed. This is just another chainsaw defense of odin. Layabout goes from saying ritoky’s plan makes perfect sense from a mafia perspective to saying I’m scum for buddying him. The only thing that makes sense here from a mafia perspective is layabout’s play because he realizes I’m an easier lynch than ritoky. 27NB has been active and her reads have been decent. Townread from me. Mderg hasn’t really been pushing any reads, but what he has said has been well thought out and logical so I feel pretty good about him as well.
So my scum team looks like this: Odin, Palmar, ShaioPi, Sloosh, Layabout. Most confident on the first two, least confident on ShaioPi .
On May 30 2014 15:12 OdinOfPergo wrote: Also, unless something drastically changes I don't think I'm going to change my mind on this.
##vote:Meapak_Ziphh
lol here's the post I was waiting for.
Odin has completed his 180 and is now ready to lynch me. Just as I predicted in my posts which nobody apparently read.
I personally don't think there's any real case against me at the moment but if the thread decides I am to die so be it. Please ask me questions so that you can reference stuff I say once I flip. imo we should start talking about group C since we've got B all figured out.
On May 30 2014 16:51 OdinOfPergo wrote: Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cycle. It will never happen. But you are saying I have produced nothing this game. And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here. And you want to lynch me for it. Why?
I want to lynch you because you're scum and you've been waffling between me and rit, you thought it was gonna be rit for a long time but never committed so now that I'm under the gun you can switch to me. I really don't care about what else you've done, I'm looking at how you've played your cell and all you've done is angle yourself to stay alive by making sure you'll be on the right side of the lynch. Your first 5 or 6 posts are all about the bad things that ritoky did but as I pointed out, you never called him scum. Aside from Palmar I'm the only person you've actually called scum and aggressively gone after, you did this after it became apparent that ritoky was not catching on as a lynch. That's textbook opportunistic scum play in an attempt to stay alive. You kept your options open until you saw which way the thread was going. Don't give me BS about the other reads you've given, I don't care because those don't matter right now. All that matters is you, me, and ritoky, and it's clear your focus isn't finding scum but instead staying alive, and that's a scum play right there.
On May 30 2014 16:59 OdinOfPergo wrote: Like what is your opinion about the last 20 pages? Actually how do you feel about the whole game? What about all the points previously made? You think Shia/Robik is prob scum? Explain. You think Bunnies cell is difficult? Explain. You think HF is scum/WoS is trying to frame him subtly/ they are both scum together? Explain. You think that Palmar is town? Explain. You think Bat's approach to mayor was in any way different than HF/Rit's? Explain.
Like I've posted my thoughts on everything I just mentioned. And you've done none of it. But I'm the scum read you come to for it. What?
You're just trying to muddy the waters. Don't try and hide your push of ritoky, whatever else is happening can happen, you're using it as a smokescreen to obscure the way you waffled on your cell.
On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote: Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear.
I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort.
I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote: Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear.
I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort.
I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town?
I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip.
On May 30 2014 16:51 OdinOfPergo wrote: Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cyc. . It will never happen. But you are saying I hthread sentiman oduced nothing this game. And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here. And you want to lynch me for it. Why?
I want to lynch you because you're scum and you've been waffling between me and rit, you thought it was gonna be rit for a long time but never committed so now that I'm under the gun you can switch to me I really don't care about what else you've done, I'm looking at how you've played your cell and all you've done is angle yourself to stay alive by making sure you'll be on the right side of the lynch. Your first 5 or 6 posts are all about the bad things that ritoky did but as I pointed out, you never called him scum. Aside from Palmar I'm the only person you've actually called scum and aggressively gone after, you did this after it became apparent that ritoky was not catching on as a lynch. That's textbook opportunistic scum play in an attempt to stay alive. You kept your options open until you saw which way the thread was going. Don't give me BS about the other reads you've given, I don't care because those don't matter right now. All that matters is you, me, and ritoky, and it's clear your focus isn't finding scum but instead staying alive, and that's a scum play right there.
This post confuses me, MZ. I'm not sure how being uncertain who is scum in your cell means mafia. He keeps both you and ritoky open as scum, because it seems like he actually doesn't know, how does this seem mafia?
The thing is 27NB, read his posts against rit early, they're not particularly bad, however he put no faith in what he says which makes it look like he's biding his time to find out which way the thread is gonna go. He doesn't even consider me as scum until the thread sentiment is well under way against me.
Why do you say its not significant? Guessing 1/3 in one cell is better then guessing possibly 5/33 in that other game. And guessing 1/2 is better than that so I dont see any justification in your counter point.
Because 1/3 is still only 33%.
I mean it works for my own cell because i have a fifty percent chance of hitting mafia in my own cell, but everyone else only thirty three percent. That may seem a lot, but its actually not.
Id rather base my reads of mafia on plays and their reads rather than on some stupid statistical machine that can't read into what a person writes.
In our DM games mafia is 25% or less of the town as we use a 4:1 ratio. Your point is invalid.
Sure READS are apart of the game and Im thankful I am in a position to absorb as much information as I can (besides your group being in the last spot) I can explore other possibilities besides my RNG results.
Yeah but we dont rng who we think is mafia, then lynch based on that, so your point is invalid.
We base on reads. So start absorbing information, and start explorin other possibilities, because youve barely done anything this game.
Your post is bs because you get a couple reads and then you use POE as a way to lynch people which is statistics being used.
Your tunnel on me is bs
Ive read through your filter and nothing really impressed me and you keep talking about me not being here and not posting and are ready to lynch me when it comes to my cell BUT when you talk about the people in your cell you refuse to give reads on them because they have not posted.
If you do not understand statistics then do not comment on them.
Ooo, you are really starting to piss me off, for one, im not tunneling you. Tbh, i could care less about you, what im trying to do is figure out the game. You know, you arent the only cell in this game. I have to get reads on other cells, and yours is the furthest from my mind right now. I am thr last cell, which means I'm going to be in this game longer than you. The rest of my cell (ehich i need to look on more now that they have posted) werent doing anything, and it was just me.
I understand statistics perfectly. I actually got an A in that class, so back off.
If my filter did nothing to impress you, then maybe it wasnt meant for you. I gave my reads on each cell, what I thought about each person, etc. so if you arent seeing anything in my filter, then you need to get you eyes checked.
But im done talking to you. Once you actually do something better for this town, becausyour filter sure as hell doesnt impress me, then we will talk.
That might be the most forced line of all time. The pseudo-joke, pseudo-anger makes me want to vomit.
Forced line?
I didn't even force it. Why would I have a reason to?
Basically, tamburini is arguing with me for the sake of arguing. he has called me scum each forum game we have played on the basis of trying to get me lynched, ive been town each game, and this game is so different.
Why do you even care if he tries to get you lynched everyone is going to be dead by the time it's your cell's turn? What about what's happening right now in the next few hours?
I don't care. I even said that in my post to tamburini. Im just responding to things that were directed at me, then I will move on to the MZ, Ritoky, and Odin thing.
If youve read anything i wrote (which apparently you havent) I already commented on who I think is mafia out of todays cell. I like odin, and his posting. I think MZ is more scummy than ritoky.
However, both ritoky and mZ are still using the freedom thing, which sorta ticks me off. mZ more so, because he is using it as a buddying up tactic to ritoky imo.
I also questioned Mz on one of his posts. Im a bit behind on reading, so im trying to catch me up. If you want something specific, ask me,
How on earth would the freedom thing still possibly be a buddying tactic when the entire thread is preparing to lynch me for it? I'd post a gif now except I'm phone posting.
On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote: Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear.
I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort.
I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town?
I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip.
Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly.
I see three possible universes:
1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin
Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that.
On May 31 2014 01:57 Palmar wrote: Btw if MZ flips town, it was ritoky. Odin is basically clear.
I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort.
I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town?
I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip.
Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly.
I see three possible universes:
1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin
Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that.
I suppose you're going with universe 1?
Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option.
Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point.
Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking.
On May 31 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote: [quote] I'm all aboard the lynch meapak train,but the fact that no one really wants to lynch anyone else concerns me. Either there's some megabus action going on, or meapak is town.
yeah kinda what I was thinking. Not sure I want to do anything about it and MZ doing jack shit doesn't help clear him.
So irresponsible this MZ, not putting in effort.
I've been trying to solve my cell but everyone has been getting lost in the rest of the game. Not gonna lie, the downright refusal of some people to actually pay attention to what I've said about odin is a little frustrating which has probably decreased my posting but hey, you win some you lose some.
Question for the thread, why has odin been so scarred of getting lynched this whole day and he's never had more than one vote on him.
That question at the end goes two ways. Why have you not been scarred of getting lynched this whole day when everyone has been piled on top of you the entire time? Is it enough just to see us proved wrong if you flip town?
I'm never scarred of getting lynched as town, go read my town games where I get lynched, if people want me dead my last act is to go quietly and not shit up the thread and provide reads. I've basically laid it all out why I think odin is scum but people are either still hung up on the bullshit "buddy" with rit or are just not reading the thread. And yeah not gonna lie, I do get immense pleasure out of proving people wrong with my flip.
Odin responded to everything you laid out. Considering no one is voting him and everyone wants to vote you, his responses must have been acceptable even with the outbursts and formatting all of his posts poorly.
I see three possible universes:
1. You are mafia and every mafia member is bussing you simultaneously 2. You are town, Odin is mafia, and everyone is stupid 3. Ritoky is mafia and the only person to ever suspect him was Odin
Odin's responses have been terrible. But apparently, for this thread the content doesn't matter, only that he made a big post with red text to point by point "rebut" what was said against him. Odin can't really answer my core charge that he was just waiting to see which person the thread would pick as scum but he's made enough fluff posts for people to not realize that.
I suppose you're going with universe 1?
Think about it from my perspective. If Odin is mafia it means literally everyone has been wrong, except you, ever since Odin's very first post. If Odin is town, it means just about everyone was right. What would you do if you were me? I don't like the idea of every person voting for the same guy because it's going to hurt voting analysis later but I don't feel like I logically have any other option.
Maybe Odin did just point by point rebuke what was said about him. Maybe you could point by point rebuke his point by point rebuke. If it worked for Odin, maybe it would work for you. I don't think saying more is going to hurt your chances at this point.
Nah I get where you're coming from which is frustrating but nobody wants to be the only person defending someone. As for posting a rebuttal to his rebuttal I feel like that's pointless. I've laid my case out a half a dozen times in my filter and explained why odin is scum. If people didn't listen then, I doubt they'll listen now so I'll let my flip do the talking.
Okay consider this then.
If you are mafia, and every other mafia member is busing you, I wouldn't expect you to be panicked when lots of people vote you because everything is going according to plan. It's like the joker says no one panics when everything is going according to plan.
If you were town, I would expect you to panic if everyone started voting you and you didn't know why. As far as you know, you've defended yourself as best you could, yet people are still voting you over the other guy.
That's just not how I roll lol. Seriously look at any game I've been town lynched versus and game I've been scum lynched. I know why people are voting me, it's because they're lazy and don't feel like reading the thread. No amount of posts from me will change that.
Also Palmar is so fucking scum after that last post. Kill him when his time comes.
On May 31 2014 03:27 Palmar wrote: Too bad I can't save you
##Unvote MZ ##Vote ritoky
Reason: I don't expect anyone to follow this but whatever, because it relies on me knowing I'm town.
if MZ is actually mafia, I'm basically a lock mislynch for his team. There is literally no reason for him as scum to call me out as being scum which might (even if weak) be at some point interpreted as me actually being town. if he's mafia he'd probably just not comment on me at all because that makes sure he doesn't accidentally absolve me.
lolol look at this right here. Palmar knows I'm town and that my flip will be the nail in his coffin.
EPT
