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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 02:31 GMT
#1421
The mistake i made with most likely ritoky (i hope) was that i didn't realise he was not a new online mafia player :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 02:52 GMT
#1426
On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?

._.

fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway.


He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:13 GMT
#1431
On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?

._.

fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway.


He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.


so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed.

rofl. okay.


Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still.

Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:15 GMT
#1432
He even said he'd vote ritoky if he had to to save mz cz mz so town because of 2 ppl in cell voting -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:19 GMT
#1433
Also look at people whose activity spiked around cell A lynch time as they were afk most of the game and see what they wrote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:24 GMT
#1434
Also wave is most likely replacing out of the game which is annoying
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:30 GMT
#1436
On June 01 2014 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?

._.

fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway.


He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.


so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed.

rofl. okay.


Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still.

Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc.


how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread."

i guess contextual reads dont exist either.


You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway.

Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring.

If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:54 GMT
#1439
On June 01 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?

._.

fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway.


He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.


so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed.

rofl. okay.


Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still.

Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc.


how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread."

i guess contextual reads dont exist either.


You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway.

Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring.

If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks?


because the reasons people are scumreading him arent really consistent with his posts. he clearly had a reason for why he thought mz was town: the fact that both members of his cell were voting him. he had 0 reasons otherwise, which is something youre misrepresenting in your post.

and the reason im defending him is because i dont think hes scum. lol. what a weird thing to say.

though one thing i think is really funny:

Show nested quote +
If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks?


lol.

##vote: holyflare


Are you really being this obtuse?

I'm saying that's exactly the reason WHY you should be scum reading him. His ONLY reason was that. His mindset is that there is a consensus on mz being scum. His mindset would include bussing as highly likely because if mz was scum he couldn't not be bussed so close to deadlone. His first reaction to people in his cell voting for mz is not bussing, which is where his mindset was, it's that mz is town with 1....ONLY 1 "confirmed" mafia on his lynch. That is not consistent in the slightest.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 03:59 GMT
#1440
Also your vote is a waste of time. You use a "buddying" meta to try and meta me (from cavs meta which is wrong) but then you don't think to assume I'd be friendlier towards people that 2/3 times are likely to be town. The rest of it is based off of page 1-2 in my filter that clearly involved trolling.

I think you're quite likely to be scum in cell d because sloosh is actually asking questions and critically thinking and tamburini is doing things that look like they make sense to him while you are just disputing things that are true and then afking the rest of the time. I haven't seen a read of yours change this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 04:00 GMT
#1441
Theres your new answer for cell D batsnacks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 04:17 GMT
#1444
On June 01 2014 13:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?

._.

fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway.


He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.


so robik is actually scum because he didn't want to believe that mz was getting bussed? and then he proceeded to vote odin anyway because his reads changed.

rofl. okay.


Read sloosh post. Votes stacked @5, robik knew consensus was on mz being scum. Nobody else looked like a real candidate. Bussing almost inevitable at that point. 2 cell members join, shouldn't change his read at all because bus very highly likely still.

Robiks only reason for voting odin was the bussing. I made this post in my post of reads today. Also weird posts wave pointed out etc etc.


how i read your case: "this persons reads shouldnt change because i dont think they shouldve changed because of a thing that happened in the thread."

i guess contextual reads dont exist either.


You are implying he had reads to begin with. Why are you defending robik so much. He had 0 reasons for mz to be town. Absolutely 0, he had said so himself. Consensus was on mz by almost everyone bar 2-3 ppl (a very likely number in a bussing situation) and he had a town read on the person he voted for. His only only only reason for switching is an inevitability that would happen to a caught scum anyway.

Nothing to do with what I think should have happened, it's what is obvious to robik if he actually thought that process was occurring.

If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks?


because the reasons people are scumreading him arent really consistent with his posts. he clearly had a reason for why he thought mz was town: the fact that both members of his cell were voting him. he had 0 reasons otherwise, which is something youre misrepresenting in your post.

and the reason im defending him is because i dont think hes scum. lol. what a weird thing to say.

though one thing i think is really funny:

If you don't think it's robik then why is it batsnacks?


lol.

##vote: holyflare


Are you really being this obtuse?

I'm saying that's exactly the reason WHY you should be scum reading him. His ONLY reason was that. His mindset is that there is a consensus on mz being scum. His mindset would include bussing as highly likely because if mz was scum he couldn't not be bussed so close to deadline. His first reaction to people in his cell voting for mz is not bussing, which is where his mindset was, it's that mz is town with 1....ONLY 1 "confirmed" mafia on his lynch. That is not consistent in the slightest.



robik should probably post his own defense.

and for the record, i find your logic for voting robik exceedingly thin.


So robik was town to you, that means that batsnacks and me are mafia. If the towny response (by robik you say) was to not vote mz. Why was your vote on mz?

You also cannot complain to me about thin logic.

Reason for voting ritoky mayor:

On May 28 2014 14:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
this ritoky guy has spunk.

##vote: ritoky



Reason for voting mz:
On May 30 2014 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 12:44 Holyflare wrote:
damn you found me plz dotn post teh best case ever people will know im mafia


no dice.

also the scum in cell a is meapak and ill get to that when i get the chance.

ive got this guy by poe and because of the plot hole spackle he has in his reads


Even though you said nothing about town reading odin at that point and did not explain the plot hole situation at all.

You even defend robik by saying so town cz moved off mz for no bus reasons after saying:

bussing is likely though.


And seeing poofter (someone who plays a shit tonne with robik) say:
On May 31 2014 06:12 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:51 batsnacks wrote:
On May 31 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Did I not words?

I would vote Odin over Ritoky, but if it were between MZ and Ritoky, I would vote Ritoky to save MZ.



Okay what about if it could be any of the three and your vote was the only one that mattered?

If it was a regular mafia game with no additional information, I'd vote MZ today.



You know full and we'll the meta in cell mafia is try for ML but bus the obv scum. Your posting activity makes me think you're town but your logic and content makes me think you're scum.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 04:21 GMT
#1445
Ebwop: You even defend robik by saying he is so town cz he moved off mz for "no bussing is happening he's town!" reasons after saying:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 16:28 GMT
#1461
On June 02 2014 00:12 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats


Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him

There's some points that actually make sense.

So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.

If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.

If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.

So two scenerios i see there.

I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.



Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?

And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?

What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?


If I can trust you and you can trust me on the town read we have on one person in the cell it's simply Poe.

I do feel that if you are town you've allowed HF to pocket you due to the fact of my excessive tunnel of you which makes me think he is more scum then bat.


The only thing you've really done this entire game is tunnel bunnies for similar reactions that she had in golden sun (which again you did really not much in) so yes, I told you to stop tunneling on:

A) a person who i think is town
B) someone who is in the last cell

It's my cell today and only 1/3 (2 at a stretch) people are trying to solve the game in this cell while everybody else twiddles their thumbs or afk's. You need to be commenting on why you think people other than bunnies are mafia because if "hf is pocketing bunnies" like you imply then you've spent the entirety of your filter tunneling someone who is town and wasting time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 16:45 GMT
#1463
On June 02 2014 01:33 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 02 2014 00:12 mtamburini wrote:
On June 01 2014 23:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 01 2014 22:56 mtamburini wrote:
Bunnies you think HF is town I think Robik is town. What's your opinion on bats


Just semi skimming his filter (because I have work in thirty mins and woke up late) i actually like him/ not like him

There's some points that actually make sense.

So when he was running for mayor, he didn't want ritoky's cell to go first due to he thought there was too much momentum going against odin right now, i agree with this, but im not sure if we have same reasons.

If odin was mafia, bat could have proposed cell A going differently because he wanted to get pressure off of his mafia partner, and give him more time to seem townie.

If ritoky was mafia, batsnacks as town would have done town a favor.

So two scenerios i see there.

I didnt like how he placed his cell first, when i feel like there was less info on them as well.



Now, the thing i dont like about you asking this, is just because you are viewing robik as town, doesnt mean i am, so why focus on batsnacks? Why not ask for my read on robik, too?

And you never mentioned your read on holyflare, so why not ask what my read is on him? Or give your own read?

What's your view on holyflare, robik, and bat?


If I can trust you and you can trust me on the town read we have on one person in the cell it's simply Poe.

I do feel that if you are town you've allowed HF to pocket you due to the fact of my excessive tunnel of you which makes me think he is more scum then bat.


The only thing you've really done this entire game is tunnel bunnies for similar reactions that she had in golden sun (which again you did really not much in) so yes, I told you to stop tunneling on:

A) a person who i think is town
B) someone who is in the last cell

It's my cell today and only 1/3 (2 at a stretch) people are trying to solve the game in this cell while everybody else twiddles their thumbs or afk's. You need to be commenting on why you think people other than bunnies are mafia because if "hf is pocketing bunnies" like you imply then you've spent the entirety of your filter tunneling someone who is town and wasting time.


I'm getting tired of these dumb passive aggressive comments you make all the time. Half of your 50 page filter is probably bitching about how you're the only person trying.


I'm sorry what? The last time i saw you do anythong was day 1. The only thing you've done today is ask people for their reads on cell d and e and talk about your policy of putting mayor cells first. You disputed a bunnies read for points that most likely make her town and then completely overlook the fact that layabout said he was playing like mafia all game abd don't even want to question mderg.

You don't try and figure out who is mafia in our cell, the only thing you are doing at an attempt is to ask robik some useless question that you answered in your own post "you'd vote mz if it wasn't for me right?!"

I've yet to see any real analysis about things like your day 1 post at all abd it's very easy for you to skate by doing the things you are doing. I do not care if you don't like my passi e aggressiveness because that stems from the futility of me putting in effort to a game where people signed up with the disclaimer of being active and then fucked off for the entire game.


On May 30 2014 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 13:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2014 13:03 Holyflare wrote:
Also at this point in time palmar is pretty much confirmed mafia.


What makes you think so?


He's playing in your other game. He has no interest in this game whatsoever, he says he won't play the mayor bit but then never returns. He's usually pretty trolly as town who isn't playing but he isn't even that here (his tambo thing was just shitty and atypical palmar troll). He most likely won't start playing till late tomorrow or even at my cells lynch and then try and control the pace of the game after I'm dead.


You absolutely lynch palmar tomorrow no matter what he says or how much effort he puts in. He has been completely useless this entire game and is mafia. You lynch robik today becquse shiaopi did nothing abd had accusations based on nothing and robik has equally done nothing. I can probably see tambo being town but i still don't know, it's very likely smurf in that cell because of what he was doing earlier. If it ever gets to the last cell you choose between layabout and mderg and don't even think about bunnies
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 17:22 GMT
#1471
On June 02 2014 01:58 batsnacks wrote:
Most of your filter is about activity. Everything you said in that post above me is about activity. All of your logic seems to stem from how active people are playing and you don't consider anything else. If someone is active, then by your logic they are automatically more townie than someone who is playing less active. You have the highest activity in this game, therefore you are the towniest person in this game, by your logic.


It's really not.

Palmar is partly activity based yes, moreso because i got a town read on poofter and more of a town read on wave from his posting at the mz lynch.

Robik isn't activity based at all. It's a read based on shiaopi's posting of surface level reads that weren't actually true and then on top of that robik's posts about bussing when he has played cell mafia before and knows bussing is a major thing that happens (poofter pointed this out)

Cell D is ridiculous because of the lack of activity. Sloosh posted 1 case i liked and hasnt really done anything but when he is around he interacts a bit, although very limited. Smurf hasn't changed his reads ever and made a bad case and then complained about flimsy logic when, as I pointed out, he hadn't used logic this entire game. Tambo is tunneling on 1 person who i think is town based on her responses (that align with her attitude last game) and her willingness to do things when not needed, no matter how weak you say they were (they weren't really weak at all, you still haven't explained why they are) but he is actually posting things which show some kind of critical thinking albeit in a weird newbie forum mafia kind of way (associations/omgus cases).

Bunnies is very towny. Layabout lived up to his name and did nothing really, he even queried last page why nobody picked up on him for playing like scum which is actually quite a towny observation out of the blue and he said something small about odin day 1 "what scummy things has he done" which was really succinct and a good thing to point out. Mderg has spread suspicion on every player that is up for lynch in every cell and then picked the one that wasn't the main ml for lackluster reasons and scum reads people for reasons he town reads others for.


So no, almost none of it is activity based thanks, and it's pretty obvious you have no idea. Try again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 18:07 GMT
#1477
##vote draw/endgame

-.-


2 replaces, 1 remove/replace, many afkers afting signing up to a game with a disclaimer from the host:


On May 05 2014 03:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd like to request that players who sign up are willing to put in the time to play this game. Don't sign up unless you know you can commit a decent amount of time to the game. There's little downtime in this game compared to others due to there being no nights. The thread can get quite big.



Get me out of here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 18:19 GMT
#1491
On June 02 2014 03:10 Palmar wrote:
Also how sure are you it's robik and not batsnacks?


I honestly have no idea anymore. I'd say robik because of his actions at mz lynch and general lack of reading anything/inconsistent reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 18:27 GMT
#1502
On June 02 2014 03:25 Palmar wrote:
Also please link me the posts you want me too read holyflare. I'm going to make a snap judgment on your alignment based on them so it's in your benefit as either alignment to do it


I'd rather you vote me to end the game quicker
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 18:28 GMT
#1505
On June 02 2014 03:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On June 02 2014 03:25 Palmar wrote:
Also please link me the posts you want me too read holyflare. I'm going to make a snap judgment on your alignment based on them so it's in your benefit as either alignment to do it


I'd rather you vote me to end the game quicker


the game ends for you in a couple hours regardless of how we lynch, so at least try to get it right.


No it doesn't because I'll still be reading.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 01 2014 18:32 GMT
#1509
On June 02 2014 03:30 Palmar wrote:
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On June 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On June 02 2014 03:25 Palmar wrote:
Also please link me the posts you want me too read holyflare. I'm going to make a snap judgment on your alignment based on them so it's in your benefit as either alignment to do it


I'd rather you vote me to end the game quicker


The game will be over as far as you're concerned tonight anyway what kind of a shit martyr play is this.


I'm tired of you being lazy and i don't care if you're town because you are genuinely one of the players that has made this game so unemployable so do your own fucking work.
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