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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 15 2014 09:29 GMT
#24
I'm /in for this if you don't have enough of a turn-out from vets.


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 17 2014 04:13 GMT
#44
On April 17 2014 12:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many ins we gots


If I can still count, 16
Lazy WoS not counting for himself.
Sheeeesh


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 26 2014 05:52 GMT
#121
So you're giving up your "if I'm town Palmar is scum" heuristic geript?
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 26 2014 06:29 GMT
#140
On April 26 2014 15:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote geript

Policy lynching someone when their wad is blown, what a good job geript.
Face it, hes not going to flip scum and he cant hurt us anymore. Wasted day and wasted lynch.

Which, if pulled off, = Bamcis 4 skumz.

Plus all scum shalt townread me

they will be uncanny

yes



You're scum.




Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 26 2014 07:34 GMT
#147
VE; Progression.

• Doesn't think Caller is scum.
• Thinks Caller is town.
• Thinks Palmar might be scum and try to force scum KP to OMGUS Caller.
• Doesn't want Palmar to yolo420noscope #rekt Caller with scum KP.
• VE thinks Caller is actually scum because of all this.


If Caller is scum;
He wasted his load on a town who's... posted... umm..
What... ever in this game?

If Palmar is scum;

He's done.... what.. to give you that read?

If VE is scum;
Disrupte the town.
Mislead ideas. (Because who can know if Caller's nuke is even real?! Might as well get chaos from it.)

I dun like any of this VE.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 26 2014 09:06 GMT
#151
On April 26 2014 17:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 16:34 OdinOfPergo wrote:
VE; Progression.

• Doesn't think Caller is scum.
• Thinks Caller is town.
• Thinks Palmar might be scum and try to force scum KP to OMGUS Caller.
• Doesn't want Palmar to yolo420noscope #rekt Caller with scum KP.
• VE thinks Caller is actually scum because of all this.


If Caller is scum;
He wasted his load on a town who's... posted... umm..
What... ever in this game?

If Palmar is scum;

He's done.... what.. to give you that read?

If VE is scum;
Disrupte the town.
Mislead ideas. (Because who can know if Caller's nuke is even real?! Might as well get chaos from it.)

I dun like any of this VE.

I don't think Caller is scum. And I don't /know/ if Palmar is scum /or/ town. Here's how I see things:

Caller (town my PoV) has mod-confirmed nuked Palmar. Palmar (alignment unknown) comes back to the thread and sees that he's been nuked. Palmar /could/ be scum right? We don't know. But know this: IF he's scum, then he's got a free pass to use his KP however he wishes right now if he has day KP free of scrutiny because he is GOING to die. He might, he might not. Day KP is typically NOT allowed to be used after a certain period in the day, so from MY perspective, voting for Palmar so he can't use Day KP presuming he has it until he proves through his posting that he's town is worth keeping him from using the KP so early on a strong player if he's scum.

I don't know what Caller's vote on me is about, but I wish he'd remove it.



I still don't understand.
Maby I'm bad.
What does it really have to do with squat though?

"But know this: IF he's scum, then he's got a free pass to use his KP however he wishes right now if he has day KP free of scrutiny because he is GOING to die."

But why? What you are saying involves these possibles.

a) Palmar is vanilla town. He dies to nuke.
b) Palmar is blue dayvig towner. He OMGUS Caller and kills him.
c) Palmar is scum. He OMGUS/ Spends scum kp killing Caller and dies himself unless his role (or other scum role for him) can dayvig Palmar.

Point in case is that either;
vanilla town Palmar dies to the nuke.
town dayvig Palmar kills Caller.
Scum Palmar/ teammates dayvig Caller.

None of these results give us any information.
How are you drawing conclusions from them?

Like I don't disagree that Caller's nuke at this point seems unwarrented.
I'm simply confused on how you are coming up with 'scum' for someone because of it.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 26 2014 09:11 GMT
#152
On April 26 2014 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
In the name of clarity:

My vote is presently on Palmar in the name of keeping him from using potential further DayKP, NOT intention to lynch.



This is exactly what I mean.
What makes you think town Palmar would insta OMGUS and waste his 1 shot ability to retaliate vs someone this early in the day?

and what makes you think it matters if Palmar is scum because the following happens

1) Scum team doesn't have dayvig ability
Palmar dies. Doesn't flip.
2) Scum team has dayvig ability
Caller dies. Doesn't flip.

Unless we can come up with a reasonable assumption for either one of their alignments before the day ends..
Niether result freaking matters because it's a needle in a hay stack.
Either Palmar/Caller dies.
If we as town can't decide what to think about either of them it doesn't matter which dies.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 00:49 GMT
#272
Koshi rest your mind.

On April 27 2014 08:56 Palmar wrote:
Well since no one is killing caller

Blow me town

##Pardon prplhz

Reason, people want to kill him.

I thought I could pardon at the deadline to ruin the day but the nuke lands before that, so I guess I'm just pardoning whoever people want to lynch right now.


If this isn't a scum claim I don't know what is.
Palmar is basically saying "Firetruck all you town ppl"
Besides I think you've been in a few games where the 'blow me town' phrase came up as a scum claim a few times.
What gives Kosher?

I'm so comfortable with this that I hope Caller's nuke DOESN'T land(Like he claimed) just so we can lynch scum regardless.
I also get a nice town-read from it.
Which is nice because I was kind of at a loss at how to treat the scenario of Palmar not dying from the nuke.
Now I do.
SO thanks Palmar for being so scum.

Anyway. I just thought I'd chime in on this.
I need to actually do more than a breeze through of this thread but ye
For now while I re-read with some thought..

Koshi;
I want you to decide and base what your read is on this.
I've heard you flip flop between Palmar and Caller for a while now with little to go between.
SO decide.
Otherwise I'm going to be confused and might think your scum for floating reads with no reason.

P.S. (It might be a while before I'm free to post. Ask your questions though. I'll make it around to them.)
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 01:23 GMT
#282
Oh ok I found it.

This is what I was refering to

On March 27 2014 23:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 19:08 Blazinghand wrote:
blow me town



From World Heavyweight championship game.

Sound familiar?

I think it should. So explain to me how it's not a scum claim to say

"Screw this town. I'm going to wreck it up as much as possible before I die."

If someone can explain how this even remotely makes them think Palmar is town then meh.
Goodluck but I doubt it.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 01:29 GMT
#285
No I don't care about the pardon.
I have Prp as null/slight town.
I don't care if Foolish says he's scum. From his filter I don't think that.
I'm curious as to why Koshi goes from reading his filter
pretty much saying "This guy seems town"
to "welp Fool thinks he's scum so he's got to be scum."
Doesn't make sense to me.

Per Palmar.. Ye my read has little to do with it.
Palmar could be scum framing a townie for a... second mislynch? (Assuming Prp actually would of gone through)
Or setting up Wifom trying to frame Prp as town now.
I don't know which yet. I'll draw conclusions on it after I've thought about it more.

But Palmar saying "sod off town. I'm going to be disruptive as possible"
You think that play makes Palmar town?
Like seriously?
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 01:33 GMT
#287
Actually Prp I think I misread your post.
I think we are thinking the same things.
So disregard that previous. I mean it still stands as to what I think. But I think you already get that.

As for coroner, if we even have one... that's fine. Give us the Palmar flip. What else can you do tonight?
Like I don't see why you even bring it up Vayne.
Obv the coroner is going to provide day kills flips if he's town.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 04:41 GMT
#294
So Palmar..
This is much interesting

You still stand to you "hate this town ret's screw with them, Palmar going to wrekt up this town.

Oh yes. This is most fun.

Do explain.

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 04:47 GMT
#297
Also,

Caller;
I frankly dun give a rats if you think Im scum.
I'm going to hold myself to my previous assumtion.
The failed Nuke means you're prob town.

You're next level plays got town talkin'
That's cool.
I like it.
Everyone got reads from it.

Palmar;
Let's lynch this guy.

Kosher;
serious responds :'(
I'm basically Rayn 2.0!
Rayn my #1.. so obv we have to live on his traditions.
If you keep dodging me I'm going to feel cold and betrayed!
I might even feel obligated to think you're totes scum for it.
I just want to understand you!

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 08:48 GMT
#308
What the hell.
Seriously.

Why is no one lynching Palmar.
This dude claims scum,
and everyone ignore it.

I haven't checked out SnB but you know what.. I'm not going to until tomorrow.
Lynching scum to high on my list to worry about other things.

##Vote: Palmar

Even now Palmar you can't be asked to put any effort into this game.
Per your last post you;
Want to die so you can "yell at game" post game.

Didn't actually read Prp's case but decided he must be town. So thus pardon.... TO FIRETRUCK WITH TOWN. And he's WORRIED he didn't screw with town.

So what gives? There is this guy in our game... Who claims over and over again he's out to do whatever is possible to ruin the town.
And we aren't lynching him.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 09:03 GMT
#310
Read his filter.. Or mine. Either way I've already explained my thoughts about it.

Lynch Plammer.
It is the wagon of justice.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 27 2014 17:05 GMT
#346
So that's curious..
What's the odds of both VE and Slam being town dayvig?

hmm..
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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 02:39 GMT
#505
OK snap we need to consolidate.
I haven't been around so I'm going to
##Unvote
I still don't like anything Palmar has done.
But I have no hope of pushing this lynch and no one else seems to think..
well, bluntly put, doing anti town things makes you not town.
w/e. I'm not happy but there is tomorrow.

I'm also willing to donate post to people who are around to discuss topics.
I'm a bit behind but I will focus on catching up before the deadline.

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:04 GMT
#514
OK.

I haven't really thought about everything yet.
So this is really subject to peer review.
But let me lay it out as best I can.

Geript,VE,Slam, and Yam claimed to have dayvig. Or at least soft claimed it.
The only person to retract on this is Geript if I have been reading things correctly.

So..

Who between Slam, VE, and Geript is scum?
Yam already died.
I refuse to believe that scum Yam outted himself without making ANY action..
to let his scum team KILL him for wifom.
That's retarted.
We don't need a Yam flip to presume he was town.

SnB
This guy is such a hot topic.
I really feel uncomfortable with his lynch atm though.
Like I read it... and come to the conclusion "This dude totes scum"
and then someone post something and I re-read
And then I am like "Wtf Odin, you so confirmation biased"
Basically, I've been double guessing myself the entire game with him.
I'm confused and I'm not sure if he's scum or bad town.

Cephiro voting Oats is pretty interesting to me.
I don't like Oats play.
I have no regards to Ceph play.
And what I mean by "no regards" is this guy has literally posted ONE post since this game has begun.
He has 4 other post but they don't appear to say much.
So why the heck is Ceph flying under the radar?
Why is he silent voting Oats?
Will we ever know?
Given circumstances, probably not. This dude could totes be scum.

Lastly since I'm running short on time.
Geript soft claims dayvig in his post towards WoS.
He later gives this up.
I don't remember the exact post right now but filter him or w/e.
there is a "or else" Wave replies something to the lines of "that's cute babe"
I didn't take much of it from then but now it MAY be important.

Consider that Geript,Yam,VE, and Slam have claimed dayvig.
This is a retarded amount of KP for town during the day.
I don't buy it for a second.
Yam died. I don't believe he had dayvig but I do believe he was town.
One. Maby two if NOT 3 of them are either strait FULL of Themselves, outright lying, or scum.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:06 GMT
#517
Expanding on Oats/Ceph since I didn't before.
I'm not really sure what to make of Ceph.
I can believe Oats to be mafia per his play.
I'm not entirely sure on it but it's in my list.
If Oats flip mafia then I think we should look into Oats.

per that

##Vote: Oatsmaster
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#519
sorry, if Oats flips mafia then I think we should look at Ceph.
Wording too strong.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:10 GMT
#521
Ok BH. Lay it out for me.
I just said in my previous lay out..
SnB is so hit or miss for me right now.
I will consolidate if we need to.
I don't think he's being very townly.
But most town don't play townie anymore.
I am at a loss on if SnB is actually scum or bad townie.
Run me down a list on why I should vote him.

And yes. it actually mattters.
I won't let a no lynch happen if I can stop it.
But he's not my choice or the only one up for the block right now.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:14 GMT
#522
Ok dear me.

Another thing and possibly bigger.

Caller claims dayvig by shooting Prp.
Prp is still alive.
Mods have since updated vote count and Prp is still alive.
Caller is lying.

Ceph nuked BH.
He then voted for Oats.
Why does your failed nuke target not = your vote as scum target?
Confused.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:22 GMT
#530
Slam I wasn't even thinking you were the one I was worried about in that scenario.

Or I wasn't at the time.
I'm still not TOO worried about it.

But how I proceed from here is going to stronly depend.

I am going to go ahead and
##Donate: 2 post to Alakaslam.

Now please tell me who you intend to shoot before this day is done.
If you are in fact the town dayvig.
(Like I'm presumming right now)
Scum is never going to let you live through the night.
SO you will die tonight.

Thus give us what you can please.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:27 GMT
#535
And yes Austin,
I'll try to explain my Oats/SnB reads. I'm not entire sure on how many Ieft/ But I know it's enough to cover this.
I'm only wasting this post to tell you that because it probably won't be 10 minutes.
I'm a slow reader.
Even more so when I'm trying to think about things.

It will be at least 30 minutes if not more but I will have it up before the day is done hopefully.
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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:47 GMT
#544
Wtf no.
How is Palmar not been anti town?

Also thanks Austin.
Your previous comment led me to Oats filter and I had some quams with it before.
But reading it now with fresh eyes...

These are the big hiccups I ran into.

On April 28 2014 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Geript save me!!
Geript changed his vote because palmar didnt die. Not for anything else austin. You must be deluded to think that. Anyway pretty much all the nuke did was waste time and a pardoner.
I cant believe you guys dont want to lynch alak for that horrific shot. Yamato was annoying but not scum or shotworthy. Look a the way he rationalizes it like shooting someone for the sake of shooting someone rather than shooting scum


What Slam shot? I must of missed it earlier but apparently he is lying and didn't shoot Yam.
Then we should lynch him.
Yam was annoying. I thought there was a decent chance he was scum.
I don't blame Slam for his shot.
But wait I just read it was Ace who possibly shot Yam?
I'm much confused right now.


On April 28 2014 09:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sandro is so bad at the game man wtf where did he get his reputation.
POSSIBLE SCUM SLAM?? REALLY SANDRO.


Moving to SnB

##unvote
##vote SnB


as per my SNB thoughts.. I didn't like his VE tunnel. It wasn't a tunnel in the sense that he focus him as scum..
He focused on explain how his ideas lined up.
Way to much.
Like I don't even think VE is scum and I think this guy is protecting so much that it makes me wonder.
But a few of his responses and even his post in general tbh give a townish vibe when people bring up arguement.
Like for example
People grab pitchforks and go for SnB
Odin: "Well ye I guess that makes sense"
People: "NO! He's super towns! Re-read his stuff you will see!"
Odin: "Well, I mean that looks bad but this looks ok..."
People: "He's totes scum"
Odin: "I'm so freaking confused."

My problem with the SnB lynch isn't that I think he could flip scum.
No there is that possibility.
I think that it's not a bad lynch.
I know this responce will make me look bad.
But I don't care.
The reason I don't want to lynch SnB is because I'm not sure on SnB's alignment.
He's posted plenty to point towards scum. He has posted enough that I second guess myself.



Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 03:53 GMT
#549
OK so Slam shot Yam..

which means ace lied about it.

We should lynch Ace then tomorrow if I understand.

Clean cut and simple.
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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 28 2014 04:06 GMT
#571
fuck.
Well, now I look super bad.

I still think this means a lot.
SnB was a one shot.
Did he kill Yam?
What does this mean abouit Geript/Ve/Slam?

ugh..
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 29 2014 04:58 GMT
#668
On April 29 2014 13:49 Ace wrote:
yamato never flipped how would you know you made a mistake oooooooooooooooh


Not only this..but.

On April 29 2014 13:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello

Why should my alignment be obscured?

Yamato well I made a mistake. But if I am scum you want to know.

Since I am town I would rather survive but this may actually somehow be against my wincon lol


The bolded parts are really head scatchers for me.
•We don't know Yam's alignment.
• If you're town I'm pretty sure surviving is one of you wincons.
• What the heck does it even mean to not have "survive" being anti your wincon?



Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 29 2014 04:59 GMT
#669
ebwop; Drop the "anti"

I can't type tonight.
• What the heck does it even mean to have "survive" being anti your wincon?
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 29 2014 05:24 GMT
#672
Ok but Slam like

I can only judge by what's been done.
What's been done is

You waste a ton of post..
You day vig someone (Although in my mind Yam is less than 'confirmed town'..)
You now live the night..
But of course you would. Why would scum kill you if your town? Due to the amount of suspicion , that you just drug up on yourself by dayvigging, you've just because the best lynch bait ever.
You use a singleshot d1 (Why not wait for this?.. Like you weren't up for lynch. The likely hood of someone who's alignment is in doubt for nk is pretty low.)
SO why shoot d1?

Like meh. Im just going to think about this and not waste post until I can come to conclusions...
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 29 2014 09:30 GMT
#680
mm.. well

I'm still fine for a Palmar lynch.
All the reasons from before really..
I feel good about a RoL lynch.
He hasn't said much of anything the entire game long.

I'd really be fine with anyone between Palmar, RoL, Slam..

I am pretty confused how Ace got a town read on me.
Personal thought but I don't think I'm in a very good spot right now.


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 20:00 GMT
#886
I don't see why you think I'm a traitor Ceph..
In what world does scum recruit me?
Like what did they recruit and Slam busses me for lolz?

I think Foolish/Oats is probably best.
I like Slam and BH as scum too.. hmm
That could mean Oats is town though.

I think Gumshoe is pretty town atm too.
He's not doing much of anything but dang the intro post.
He included a pic of his dog and everything.

Not sure on Palmar.. his d2 I feel was by far and large better than his d1..
But I really also don't like the whole "never done this in tl history but I'm retracting my statement about rl stuffs"
If one of your staples as either alignment is not bringing it up why would it be alignment indicative in the first place?
I guess what I'm saying is: why did you feel the need to post it at all instead of just afking per usual?
But that being said I feel like I've been tunneled on Palmar this entire game.
I don't want him lynched today.

Foolish/Oats makes me worry more just because of this pairing happening now..
Foolish is more active.. Oats is per usual mia.. if Foolish/BH/Slam are scum this could either mean
Oats buss d2.. or Oats mislynch d2..
case 1) you'll hopfully look better off his scum flip or
case 2) he was such a big question mark?? how could you know..

Also I might be able to donate some post to some peoples


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 21:08 GMT
#895
ok.. so

##Donate 3 post to Austin
##Donate post to Jat

for now I'm not going to write some long winded case..
I'll omit the things that happened d1. They are in the thread and we've done hashed around at them.

Oats d2 though:

On April 30 2014 08:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Whats with all these lurkers coming back and calling me scum???

So many sheeples.

Poofter why do you keep pussyfooting around about shooting a dude? Shoot or dont, dont wave your gun around trying to scare people.


On April 30 2014 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why are only the scummy people voting for me poof? If im so super scum and austins case is based on reality then I should get wrecked right? Funny that its not happening. Maybe its because his case is not right. Which begs the question, what exactly are you sheeping? Is this innocent ignorence or intentional malice?


Scummy.. I read Gumshoe (prob town), Austin (like if this guy isn't town gg.), and RoL (Who knows?)
So I count only one questionable vote on you at all.

On April 30 2014 09:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dont you have any opinions poof? Seems like you dont want to take responsibility for your shot. Do you think gumshoe is town poof?


Seem's like it's possible that if Poof is town and the general sentiment is that you probably shouldn't blast a dude who's not going to flip if you're not 100% sure he's scum.. there was still a decent chunk of d2 at this post..
What's the hurry? What's scummy about waiting for your scum reads to post more so you can be more sure about it?
I mean, this is one of the scenario's that you'd think you'd want everyone to be pretty sure of.

On April 30 2014 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
prp im no lurker and you know it.
wave so cutie


Say's the guy with less post on d2 than me

##vote: Oatsmaster

On April 30 2014 09:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Foolishness is scum too btw in case anyone is still in doubt.


this is like the only post you've made that I've cared for at all in the past 42'ish hours.
Even the scum Foolish has managed to do more than that.
Alls you've done is throw some dirt around..
and then say "this probably scum guy is still probably scum"


Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 21:17 GMT
#897
Ok.. per the whole thing that got brought up on me from Slam..

Your main bullet point was my misunderstanding about your shot on Yama.
One that if I remember correctly I actually talked about.. to you.. on N1.
Odin miss understanding/interpreting something is a trait of scum Odin..
Man that's good to know.
I mean otherwise, you know if I played bad all the time people might think I'm actually scum in.. all ... 100% of the games I've played..
This isn't even a meta read by you..
I feel like it's a obvious attempt at trying to push an agenda..
One that involves lynching a town while trying to make yourself look a little better should it actually have worked because I'm at least not strait afking.

I'd be fine with your lynch but tbh I don't think it's even possible to try to make it happen today.
But that's fine. There is always tomorrow and that will bring more clarity for everyone..
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 21:58 GMT
#910
##donate 2 post to Koshi

Koshi make these worth it.. Poof did threaten to shoot you after all.
I am going to be real sad it you don't at least to push out a read with a vote soon..
+ You know less "I'm totes town post" and more "this makes me totes town because of content post"
Not convinced your scum but I'm going to be real disappointed if you don't make me feel better for thinking that eventually (sooner the better!)

Also sub note:
I went back and checked because I wasn't exactly sure

I posted before that I thought we talked about my misunderstanding with Ace.
We didn't.

On April 28 2014 12:53 OdinOfPergo wrote:
OK so Slam shot Yam..

which means ace lied about it.

We should lynch Ace then tomorrow if I understand.

Clean cut and simple.


This was my conclusion at the time.. Then I re-read the few pages of the thread..Realized you literally claimed the shot the post post before Hapa confirmed it.
Tell me in what way I even tried to hold onto that read?
No, I realized I misread, and dropped it.
What would scum me gain for any of this again..?




Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 22:09 GMT
#922
Koshi.. don't leave.
You're not dead.
I am.

I save you because I think you are actually more inclined to be town than scum regardless of your terri-bad d2 post.
So prove that this action isn't wasted.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 22:11 GMT
#924
I'm town.. so you all know that with this shot today..

Town matyr died when I die instead of Kosher.
This is the best I can do for you town..
So you will know this flip at least
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 22:14 GMT
#929
wait so should i let Koshi die and try to save Austin
?
I'm running out of post myself now
decide soon because I just changed to austin..
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 22:19 GMT
#931
rip Koshi

I think you were town at least
Which makes me think Poof is not town for #1 not waiting for this shot until he really had to take it..
instead of like 4 hours early.

But wait I'm so confused.. Because scum having 2 extra shots during the day seems so strong..
so many people with guns this game.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
April 30 2014 22:45 GMT
#942
Cephiro -

This is important.
You should listen very closely and so should EVERYONE else.

On May 01 2014 07:42 Cephiro wrote:
Ok read up on the shot and the things that happened after.

Respect to poofter for taking the shot. Complaints because it would have been much better to shoot Oats (whom at least I, and probably many others agree that would've been a much more certain pick for scum), and lynch Koshi.

For those who really think I am traitor... pls, did you read my post at all? Or are you just stupid?



Why the FUCK would the SCUM KOSHI ORDER THE CLAIMED TOWN MARTYR to GTFO off HIM 10 SECONDS after I CLAIMED.

Scum DO NOT EVER reply to "Hey Koshi, I believe you are town so much that I am literally willing to die in your place for the chance to prove it." with "FUCK THIS GET YOUR MARTYR OFF ME"

There is seriously no fucking way he's scum and replies like that.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 01 2014 03:38 GMT
#1014
Nice lynch!

Also, for those of you who are doubting my claim.
You'll have proof when Austin lives/ I die tonight.
Unless scum really wants to play wifom games.. in which case they don't shoot either of us tonight.
Which is fine because it basically confirms Austin, Koshi, and myself regardless as long as Austin lives the night imo.
(If you guys seriously think some knee jerk reaction I did because Poof's terrible shot on Koshi.. If you think me, Austin, and Koshi are a scum team and had this all so well planned out... just wow.. Alternatively, what world does scum not try to shoot town hero Austin tonight?)

But I suppose I could get shot tomorrow too. But the above logic is for dealing with that if it happens.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 01:41 GMT
#1035
Poofter I'm going to hold you to that statement..
Well maby I wont.. Because I really know I'll be dead before morning.
But you know... Take a look from my perspective.

What if I am town?

Because you assume right now with your Koshi assumption I am 100% scum.
That is the only way me and Koshi make any sense together.
So are you saying me and Koshi are scum?
Ok cool.. now factor Austin into that.
Why the hell would I claim to save austin (In the heat of the moment, I might remind you. Before anyone comments. I claim to save Koshi... and then switch to Austin after Koshi tells me to fuck off, save the town, and save someone else.)
I blatantly gave not only my entire role claim but who I was going to save this night.
So like the progression there is so basic..
Poof shoots Koshi,
I am martyr for Koshi.
Kosh tells me HIMSELF not 2 fucking minutes later to move my save.
I do.
I move my save to austin.
Koshi dies.
Poof is confirmed to kill a townie. Yes this is fucking confirmed. Anyone who doesn't fucking realize this.. Please just lynch me tomorrow because you're worse than me. That's strait fucking impossible. Which means your scum. SO fucking lynch the claimed Martyr who will continue to save townies this entire game or go ahead and claim scum.
I strait dare you.


You shoot town.
You respond..
"I don't care I think my shot was good!"
Because your shot was totes on scum.

Why are you ignoring EVERYTHING I do this game?
LIKE I FUCKING GAVE MY LIFE TO SAVE SOMEONE AND YOUR IGNORING IT.
The ONLY reason I'm alive right now instead of Koshi is because [g]KOSHI[/g] HIMFUCKINGSELF TOLD ME TO MOVE OFF HIM. Otherwise you would be arguing with Koshi right now and not me.
Why are you ignoring me entirely?
You're scum.
That's why.
Too many fucking shots have been called this game for scum to only have one vig.
You're at least one more.
Lynch this guy.

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 02:04 GMT
#1037
I defended you per Oats on the PRESUMPTION that you are in fact town.
You are town and you want to hold your shot till the last second because you want to be 100% sure.
You want all of town to realize you were so sure on your shot.
Town only realizes you are 100% on your shot if you WAIT for your shot.
Waiting until the last possible moment and every last post by Koshi
..
But no..
You're scum.
You realize people are mentioning him, and you caught my post off but I FREAKING DONATED POST TO KOSHI TO SUB YOUR SHOT.
As town you would of waited.
You would of gave Koshi every chance to say ANYTHING not only so you could be sure of your read..
but so TOWN could be SURE of your read.

AUSTIN TOLDS YOU NOT TO KILL HIM.
JAT TOLD YOU NOT TO KILL HIM.

HALF THE FUCKING POS OF TOWN TOLD YOU.

YOU SHOT REGARDLESS.

Why? Because you WANTED TO SHOOT TOWN.
Now you're trying to make EXCUSES for it.

NO. You shot town. You're happy about it. Thus you're scum.


IS THAT ENOUGH COLOR FOR EVERYONE?
I'm seriously so pissed about the shit that's gone on since Kosh igot shot I am demanding it now.
I demanded it last night.
and I will re-affirm my statement before the night ends.
If you think Koshi was scum pre-last night.

You lynch ME.
Revert to previous statement and then lynch them.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 02:10 GMT
#1038
Also in case I die tonight,

I thin Fool is still very questionable.
His connection with BH isn't outstanding to me.

For all I know it is not a mason chat.
Or it could be a mason chat.
One started by a mason as scum..
Who invited his buddy N1 (since this only started D2 when BH/Fool were both questionable...)
And then Bam suddenly there is a 3 way mason and w/e
Fine recruit more people.
I do hope you do that.
Hopefully people will see.

Bh I'm pretty sure as scum.
Foolish I only feel as bad about since Oats flip.
I didn't like him day1
but Oats flip really makes me think he's scum.

I'm not going to claim I am correct.
But you will know I am not coming from it as a mafia perspective.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 02:14 GMT
#1039
Also,
Austin..
You will be alive,
I protected you this night.
So unless scum has double stack KP power...
You cannot die.
Per my previous logic we all will be confirmed because of it.

I'm not sure about your comment but I believe Jat to be town.

I'm off regardless. I think I might have gone a post over. I didn't count.
Either way I will not be able to post after this comment if I do not survive the night.
Best of luck guys!
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 02:46 GMT
#1044
Ok Poof.

Here then.

Tell me how these makes sense together.
I do not have the time to quote filters.
But I believe you are at least reading the thread.

We are talking.
You jump in to claim a shot on Koshi.
I cannot believe this is happening.
I think Koshi is still very strongly possible town.
So I pm host for martyr.
I claim to the thread I did this.
IE I CLAIMED I MARTYR FOR KOSHI.
I WILL DIE INSTEAD OF KOSHI.

Now if Koshi was scum..
Would he

1) afk ignore this and be like "I'm about to pee myelf I'm dancing so hard a town martyr just suicides himself for me"
2) He's town under less suspicion than me. he does the same as me and rofl OMG REACTION POST " GTFO OFF ME YOU COMPLETEL IDIOT"
3) We're all scum together and I just slipped that Austin is scum with me and Koshi because I told the thread who I saved in Koshi's place IMMEDIATELY after Koshi ordered me to move my vote.

That means either Koshi, Austin and myself are confirmed town.
Or me and Koshi are confirmed scum (if you believe this revert to previous statement.. LYNCH ME AND YOU WILL SEE.)
Or all of Koshi, Austin, and myself are scum and we planned this whole thing from the late D1 onwards.

I think Fool is questionable. Revert to Austin's comments if you can't see my reasoning in mine. I will be honest. I sheeped a lot of my thought on Foolish from him. More so after D2 when Foolish made several long post that seemed a little weird to me. But I'm not great at reading things. I can't meta anyone to compare because of it. I trust his and Sands reads. Thus I believe this to be the case. More so now with Oats flip.

As far as you go..

I dunno I liked you up until that happened tbh.
I had questions but they were not reserved.
People questioned Koshi.
That's why I gave him post.
That's why I encouraged him to not make filler post with them.
That's why I assumed maby if enough people agreed with this he'd at least live until tomorrow until he could prove himself or be obv scum.
When you shot Koshi I was not 100% he was town.
WHEN you shot Koshi it became so OBV he was town by his immediate reaction that I cannot believe otherwise.
And your response along with some others makes me think you are scum.
Like the way Koshi reacted to me is so town telling if you have any doubts about it..
Then I MUST BE SCUM so you HAVE TO LYNCH ME.
If we are Scum on Scum.. Why would he do this?
If I'm scum why would I put myself in a situation that you have to lynch me to see he is town?
If he is scum and I am town.. ? Well GJ Koshi. I just lined myself up for mislynch if towns to stupid to see it.
If we are both scum.. We literally both just claimed scum. And I will die the moment I don't follow up on a protect I'm going to be held to holding since I CLAIMED MARTYR.
So if general town says "you should totes save Austin" and I say "ye I agree" and then Austin DIES... I get lynched and two scum die for it.
Best case scenario for scum they get one more mislynch out of it.
And that's assuming I play along if they have a active memeber who I read as townie.
And THAT'S assuming that the town AGREES with my read.
Which for 80% of this game people have been confused as hell about me.


So the only options left is
Me, Koshi, and Austin are a scum team together.

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 02 2014 04:01 GMT
#1053


GG.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 23 2014 02:07 GMT
#2355
Woo. Thanks for hosting guys!

I haven't got a chance to read any of the post game stuff yet. but I'll do it the moment I get home from work tomorrow!

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 23 2014 13:52 GMT
#2367
Ok, I have to just say.

Wow.

Just amazed by your analysis Ver. I do have a question for you though. How willing would you be to be chatty with me (of course with host approval.) in any upcoming mafia games? You said a number of times my grammar/ chain of thought (I think?) are not parsable. I'd really love help with this to be honest. I feel like most of the time, I can't get my thoughts out. It's not that I don't know what to say, but mostly how to say and say it.

Anyway, thanks for the food for thought, a fantastic game, and a spectacular analysis.
I, hope at least, can make myself a better player for it.

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
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