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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 21:47 GMT
#1417
WoS, if you are pulling of a switch to palmar while I am asleep I will murder you tomorrow. Not even joking.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 21:52 GMT
#1419
Good that's the final nail in the coffin. A guy that got lynched ONCE as town in his whole career here (and in that game he put in effort not to die) martyrs like that? Gives up and rolls over? No fucking way. Everyone who tries to keep this wagon from succeeding is basically scumclaiming.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#1421
If Foolishness was town he would do his best to give us something to work with even if he was certain that he would be killed. He would try to give us as much information as possible. Cases from a confirmed town foolishness once he is dead.
The fact that he is not doing that and moans and bitches instead only shows that he is scum who is giving up and doesn't want to put in any more effort/to incriminate his buddies.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 21:58 GMT
#1422
On May 07 2014 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
JAT, shut up.

Nope.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 22:09 GMT
#1424
In my experience the guys that seem to be scumhunting just a little are way more likely to be scum than the people who just flat out refuse to do anything. Also "this guy has done less than me so you can't lynch me before him!" is literally the worst defense I have ever heard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#1441
WoS, why the hell are you doing this? You can't possibly have a strong scumread on Palmar by the way you are posting and you were really scummy on Foolishness earlier. If you make this a no lynch or a Palmar lynch and the guy flips town first thing I do tomorrow is shooting you no questions asked. Wtf dude. Scum is giving up, rolling over for us to lynch him AND YOU WANT TO SWITCH? WHAT THE FUCK?!
PEOPLE GET ON FOOLISHNESS RIGHT NOW. Do NOT shit the bed here.

I am off and I swear to all that is holy that my bullet will be put into the head one of you guys if you fuck this up.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#1442
On May 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote:
If foolishness flips town we lynch poofter for TMI


This is no joke btw.

We super lynch poof if fool is town.

I agree with this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:42 GMT
#1444
On May 07 2014 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote:
WoS, why the hell are you doing this? You can't possibly have a strong scumread on Palmar by the way you are posting and you were really scummy on Foolishness earlier. If you make this a no lynch or a Palmar lynch and the guy flips town first thing I do tomorrow is shooting you no questions asked. Wtf dude. Scum is giving up, rolling over for us to lynch him AND YOU WANT TO SWITCH? WHAT THE FUCK?!
PEOPLE GET ON FOOLISHNESS RIGHT NOW. Do NOT shit the bed here.

I am off and I swear to all that is holy that my bullet will be put into the head one of you guys if you fuck this up.

Right now it's a no-lynch anyway in case you haven't realized. Disappearing until tomorrow if you want a flip today is probably a bad idea. Also I don't respond to threats, and I'm pretty sure the way you've been ranting and slavering away all game, I doubt anyone else will either. Whatever happens will happen despite you it seems.

You do not fight a no lynch by switching to a much smaller wagon. The people who did not vote will come in later and put there vote somewhere. We don't need that many. If you want a lynch you stay at Foolishness and urge other people to join you PERIOD.
And it is not my responsibility to keep you guys from being retarded at 2 am in the morning when I have to get up in 5 hours again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:46 GMT
#1445
Townies WILL consolidate onto Foolishness later if the alternative is the no lynch. Stay and there will be a lynch. I find it hard to believe that you are letting your top scumread from earlier (Poofter) manipulate you this way.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:52 GMT
#1448
Yeah, the noflip modkills really fucking suck.
Attitude or not it is baffling to me how you are toying with the idea to switch off a person you are scummy on to a wagon with much less votes and scummy people on it while being afraid of a no lynch. It makes no sense and it makes me angry when we have the opportunity to kill Foolishness who basically claimed scum today.
Sorry if I am going overboard and I really don't mean it in any personal way but what is going on here right now looks like pure stupidity to me if you guys are town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 06 2014 23:56 GMT
#1450
Like come on. If Foolishness is scum we all win. If he isn't and the chances for that are smaller than small you get me to shut up and detunnel finally and it will be much easier to push whatever target YOU have got in mind the next day.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#1453
Palmar has good reads this game. Oats/BH were both scumreads (granted BH was traitor) and Foolishness is in there too. No way in hell I will be voting him. Also marv/rayn meta on Palmar says he is town. Idgaf Palmar is most likely town Palmar afaik.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 00:06 GMT
#1456
On May 07 2014 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 08:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, the noflip modkills really fucking suck.
Attitude or not it is baffling to me how you are toying with the idea to switch off a person you are scummy on to a wagon with much less votes and scummy people on it while being afraid of a no lynch. It makes no sense and it makes me angry when we have the opportunity to kill Foolishness who basically claimed scum today.
Sorry if I am going overboard and I really don't mean it in any personal way but what is going on here right now looks like pure stupidity to me if you guys are town.

The point is, there are things in Foolishness' play that give me pause, and they should give you pause too. It worries me that despite interaction with Foolishness in the QT, Austin is somehow MORE sure now of his alignment than before, when even I was sure he was scum. No, as much as you want to call it that, Foolishness did not 'claim scum.' It's entirely possible he is telling the truth and is frustrated at being targeted basically all game when in his mind he has been nothing but useful/helpful. I've seen it before and I'm sure I'll see it again. It's frustrating to ME that you have done absolutely nothing this entire game but tunnel him into oblivion without even once considering other options or possibilities. That's not good townie play.

Objectively, you're probably right and I think the most likely lynch we're going to get is Foolishness today but I don't feel fantastic about it.

This qt stuff just is not towny in the slightest. You really think town Foolishness would not discuss his TOP SCUMREAD FOR DAYS RoL in there in any shape or form? No way.
You think town Foolishness would feel frustrated to the point of refusing to play the game for being targeted right now? No way. Take another look at the shadow game then. You even played in that game... jesus. And apart from that game he NEVER got lynched in like 20 towngames. Does it seem to you like that would be possible if this is his townplay? Right - NO WAY.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 00:14 GMT
#1462
Shit I miscalculated and went over the post limit. This is like post 30 of me. SORRY! I did not mean to. If some low post count guy would help me out with that I will be eternally thankful.

With that I am gone. Austin please make this lynch happen. I have faith in you - Knowing me, knowing you it's the best I can do.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 08:52 GMT
#1501
On May 07 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the perfect situation for scum right now. Austin and JAT now look like shit, the rest of the players in this game aren't even playing...

Fucking shit dicks.

Palmar or Poofter tomorrow. I'll have to really look hard to decide which. I'm thinking Palmar.

JAT I'm really interested to hear what you have to say about this. And there had better not be one fucking WORD about how 'it's his own fault' or any of that shit, because you have been nothing but antagonistic and remorseless this entire game and have not accomplished anything else and YOU WERE FUCKING WRONG. You'd better analyze where you went wrong and fucking step it up.


His play fucking sucked and he is the first one responsible for this since he is the one who got lynched without doing something against it - so yeah, it is his own damn fault.
Yes, I was wrong, yes, I sucked too. Sorry, for that.

This is not the perfect situation for scum, we lynched 2 of them in a row before. Foolishness flip (and boy was it needed - not only to get me on the right path) does not magically make austin and me scum.

Will have a fresh look at the game later.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 15:11 GMT
#1512
So, I won't apologize for pushing Foolishness. It was a good lynch - he was scummy, he refused to do anything, he was wrong - I would do it again. I WILL apologize however for the way that I was going at him/the people refusing to vote him. That wasn't necessary.

WoS, I don't see anyone painting me or austin scummy for this lynch and frankly if there is someone then that person is either scum or retarded. So, I don't see why you are getting all pessimistic. I am in the process of reevaluating this game - will take a while but since I won't be killed tonight that's fine I guess - and it is nice to be able to work with the few things Foolishness DID say knowing he was genuine.

First and foremost: I will pobably shoot tomorrow and reduce the number of useless lurking fucks, hooray! I am taking suggestions and I hope this encourages some people to start doing things.
My choice right now would be caller. Completely useless and constantly on the wrong wagons.
Opinions?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 15:13 GMT
#1513
Oh fuck lol. I missed that nuke completely.
Well then I will have to choose someone else.

WoS I don't look like shit because I DID other things. I pushed the hardest for BH - does not make me town but I did things. I was on the oats wagon and spoke up against the SnB case. Stop trying to sell I did nothing apart from Foolishness madness because it's untrue.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 15:35 GMT
#1515
On May 08 2014 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'd say shoot VE. Almost feels like a waste since he may get modkilled on D15 or whenever Hapa decides its late enough in the game that warnings/replacements aren't sufficient. Higher chance of him being scum than gumshoe who has played exactly like this countless numbers of times as town (and I inevitably get him mislynched for it)

Reasonable. Was thinking about VE or scumshoe too. I am not a gumshoe expert but I know he plays awful and scummy as either alignment. Is it really true though that he only lurks this hard as town like you said (I believe) earlier? VE would also be my preference I guess if the nuke lands this time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 07 2014 15:55 GMT
#1517
This is my last post. Maybe that is good because it makes me take a break - we will solve this game tomorrow. If someone needs something he will have to donate me a post to answer.

I also took a look at VEs filter just now and there ARE things that seem somewhat towny. Meh. Why would Ace shoot my target... scumbag.

5/5
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
May 08 2014 05:27 GMT
#1539
On May 08 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is the perfect situation for scum right now. Austin and JAT now look like shit, the rest of the players in this game aren't even playing...


Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 00:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already explained why JAT looks like shit, he has done nothing but push Foolishness all game to the detriment of any other scumhunting and usefulness. I've also already explained why I don't like Austin's push on Fool AFTER he came out with the QT as to me, the QT made him look townier. Also I was/am mad at them/myself. Fact remains that there are still a billion to people to lynch ahead of either of them. I want to say you're one of them but strangely enough your 'proof' actually resonated with me.


WoS is 100% mafia.

The three variables are

a) X = WoS personal read on Justin
b) Y = WoS opinion of how rest of town perceives Justin
c) Z = The situation quality for mafia

The first quote seems to imply WoS's personal read on Justin is that they're town (X = Town), but look bad to rest of town. (Y = Scum). This is consistent with Z = perfect.

I initially commented on his post here and called him out on basically saying Justin is confirmed town in his opinion (X = Town). The reason I say this is that given we know the solution (Z = Perfect), there is no way to solve it as X = scum.

If we assume X = Scum:

WoS then thinks Justin is mafia (or part of him), but if X = Scum and Y = scum (they look really bad), then Z cannot be perfect. In what universe would that be a good situation for mafia?

So the only solution that is consistent with WoS's wording is X = Town, which in itself is suspicious.

His second quote then starts to waffle on random shit that says nothing, he calls them out on being bad but says maybe other people should be lynched first.

Dude is 100% mafia.,

100%

Lynch with fire.




Yeah, I found that to be weird too.
bla bla now the most outspoken townies look like shit bla cry whine bla.
Dude, WoS that's not true and nobody really believes it!
Of course people do! Here is why: bullshit bullshit discredit bullshit bla whine bla bla cry.

Not liking it.

Hello marv, read quickly - a new perspective on this game would be totally awesome. I claimed dayvig multiple times and still do. so shot suggestions would be nice. My choice would be caller right now (since Aces nuke seems to be fake) for being useless and on the wrong wagons.

Justin for the win, lay all your love on us!
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