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marvellosity
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On May 13 2014 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv of the unflipped players do you think we have hit any scum? it's possible we hit mafia in Caller, but I wouldn't particularly bet on it. Don't think the other two were mafia. | ||
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On May 13 2014 07:24 Ace wrote: this game is still going???? who should we lynch, snugglebum? | ||
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On May 13 2014 16:48 justanothertownie wrote: Nice. That means I will be operating under the assumption of townmarv for the rest of the game. Just perfect. Good job slam. <3 | ||
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On May 13 2014 14:21 Alakaslam wrote: WHAT SSON I BEEN PUSHIN ACE SINCE LIKE DAY 2 OR SOME SUCH WHAT? + Show Spoiler + yeah that was VE and maybe marv maybe you should have voted him on day 4 like I did bish. Someone's vote was on Ace at the end of the day, after a great case that no-one followed... tsk. marv's Day 6 lynch list: TehPoofter ... . | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 13 2014 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't listen to his lies - he was on scum but he also caused a no-lynch. On Gumshoe. He says only the good and never the bad. Is the way and the truth of his svengali. I do feel terrible for missing that gumshoe wagon at 3am. I hope your apple juice turns to urine in your mouth, swine. On May 13 2014 19:44 Palmar wrote: Oh and marv. We probably have 2 mafia (4maf+traitor vs 18 town seems about right, probably not 5 maf+ traitor) left. so this guy: and poofter. with VA/Gumshoe as the next men up. Maybe I'm wrong on poofter, but if he's town I still don't get why he shot Kosher, even if koshi was somehow mafia (which I don't think is the case, almost certain it isn't) it's better to shoot inactive people whose flip won't tell us much about anything. Like idk, I feel we should continue lynching into these 4. No, we're not going to lynch Wave. We're gonna lynch Poofter. I have vaguely mused on the mafia numbers. Normally I have kinda firm opinions on these things but not so much here. The thing is, mafia KP seems to be really low. 2 shots night 1 and only 1 shot per night thereafter it seems. Suggests maybe a higher number of mafia. Counterbalanced against this is the no-flip vigi stuff. Certainly with the low factional Kp it seems plausible that mafia would have two day vigis (this was kinda a sticking point a little bit for me before, not so much now). On May 13 2014 19:50 Palmar wrote: Oh Caller may have been mafia. So there's that. Maybe we have less left than we think. Austinmcc seemed to want to kill caller/gumshoe from his latest posts so maybe mafia wanted to kill him because of that. They killed austin because he was the only dude left (barring Slam) who looked really town. Don't see why you'd try to look beyond that (when, for example, Ace wasn't even a suspect for him and we know what he flipped). Random Vote Musings On May 13 2014 05:08 Hapahauli wrote: Vote Count: Ace (5) - Alakaslam, marvellosity, justanothertownie, gumshoe, VisceraEyes tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow vayneauthority (0) - Marvellosity (0) - Not Voting (2) - Ace, tehpoofter Day ends in . There are 10 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch. This is the last votecount before Wave adds the 6th vote about 2h before deadline. Notable is that Ace had long been "the lynch" and yet despite this he hadn't even reached majority. So Palmar, Vayne, tehpoofter all look pretty bad from this. Palmar and Vayne both said they would consolidate on Ace if necessary, yet neither actually did and it was up to Wave to hammer. 1-2 of these people are bound to be town so it's pretty annoying they couldn't just, like, play properly and not add this extra layer of confusion. Anyway, two separate but connected strands of stuff: 1) you'd normally expect a mafia to be on the main wagon. My faith in gumshoe's towniness has been waning ever since I gave him a townread, so if anyone is mafia on the wagon maybe it's him? To be honest I haven't really read the stuff gumshoe wrote about Vayne, but mostly I just felt uneasy that Vayne was the target at all. 2) because the vote was so close and it was very hard to actually reach majority, maybe no mafia were on the wagon and they hoped they'd save Ace for a day somehow. With how eerily quiet this town can be + postcount limit, this is kinda plausible. Like, we didn't have a majority with 2h to go, and no-one was saying a thing. Kinda remarkable actually. So anyway on this train of thought, gumshoe is town because the whole wagon is town, and again the people off the wagon look worse (poof, Palmar, Vayne) Anyway, generally speaking, people off wagon worse than people on wagon (kinda stating the obvious). At the very least when a mafia barely reaches majority it makes sense to be looking off the wagon. So in any case, while my townread of gumshoe has been waning to an extent, my scumread on poofter has been strengthening, kinda organically like. I already said quite good stuff about poofter. Palmar's point in a quote above is quite ok as well. It's a postcount limit game and yet poof has only used half of his limit. Compare to BH's mini (where he was town) which started after this game, where he posted double the amount he's posted here. And postcount limit isn't really an excuse, like I said he could have double the posts by now. On May 12 2014 04:43 justanothertownie wrote: Procedes to not vote Ace when possible but does vote gumshoe BEFORE he returned. Hmmmmmm... Saving posts for a while now. This is a good point, ties into what I was talking about before to an extent. Remember when I posted before that poofter's scumreads were at some stage prplhz, VE, Ace So prplhz (me) thinks VE and then Ace and possibly both are mafia, and poofter arrives a townread on VE and never votes for Ace. This doesn't make sense to me, and there's no real explanation he can give that can make it make sense. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?user=Tehpoofter&view=all This is the townie filter in his concurrent game that just finished. It reads pretty differently to me. He's much more involved, he cares more, there's emotion there. Here there are just long reads posts. Again I understand this is partly the product of postcount stuff, but I don't think you lose all investment because you're forced to post less (and again, to remind, posting much less than even the postcount limit demands) poofter never did go away and read prplhz's mafiagames like he promised. I find it quite hard to believe that a poofter who has looked invested in both towngames that I've seen (Catastrophe, BH's game) is this uninvested in this game. Lynch pl0x. One of the reasons I think he is by far the best lynch is because there are 2-3 mafia left possibly and I don't know who they're going to be if it's not poofter. There's a couple of people who want to lynch Palmar, and a couple of people who want to lynch gumshoe, but in my mind they are much less scummy than poofter. We all know gumshoe is capable of this assholery as town, and I think he at least gets a day for being on a narrow mafia lynch. Palmar I still have tone reasons to think he's town, and a bunch of earlygame posts that I nodded to that point to him quite possibly being town. I think it would be quite silly to lynch Palmar over poofter. In short, Poofter ---------------------------------------------> gumshoe -> Palmar -> Vayne (with the last 3 kinda interchangeable to an extent) | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 14 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote: Poofter vanishing while playing his other game/ranting in postgame doesn't look too good either. So, you are sold on VE now? Yes, I'd noticed that as well, but I thought what I said was enough ^_^ I guess VE is probably town. He showed willingness/voted Ace quite early. So yes, we'll go VE town. One other thing somewhat related to the low mafia KP/day vigis stuff: We have strongandbig Alakaslam justanothertownie Oatsmaster tehpoofter With the low amount of mafia KP I would probably guess at a 3-2 split rather than a 4-1 split. Of course I'd never lynch poof for this alone, but when setup thoughts align with thoughts I already have, I guess that's a good sign. It would seem about right for a mafia team with little KP to have an extra couple of shots. | ||
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##Vote: tehpoofter | ||
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On May 15 2014 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Poofter needs to get in here and either convince me he's town or at the very least vote for who is mafia. I'm still leaning slightly town on Poof but I'm absolutely /not/ going to argue against his lynch as everyone else (barring maybe Wave) is actively trying to figure out the game and he was AFK during the last scum lynch and presumably it was someone he found suspicious. ##Vote; tehpoofter You said earlier that you agreed with my assessment that marv is scum. Do you still think so? Who should we lynch today? Do you give a shit about this game anymore? We must be playing a different game. I'd like to play in your version please, it sounds fun. I'm going to assume you didn't bother comparing the filter I linked in the meanwhile. If you think he's slightly town given what I said about him, you should tell me what it was I wrote that wasn't convincing. Because I was convinced. I read it and thought "wow marv, you so pro and sexy". Then I jizzed. | ||
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i hate this game. | ||
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On May 15 2014 10:18 WaveofShadow wrote: And if he ain't marv, we may very well lose so you need to think about it a little more carefully. #Vote: gumshoe um, no i don't. | ||
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marvellosity
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*I* need to think a bit more carefully? Christ. | ||
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