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so yeah. I'm not going to vote gumshoe. Still think there's a pretty decent chance he is town (less sure than yesterday but whatevs) and if town really wants to lynch him they don't need me to do it
Ace->Poofter->VE in that order I guess.
I still think VE could be mafia, his response to my case was terrible, the fact he characterises my continued push on him as "proving" that I am mafia is terrible - he knows this is quite how I go about things, and it most certainly doesn't prove I'm mafia. Just awful really. But literally all of town is telling me he probably aint mafia, so I have to accept I might be wrong. Sad times.
Poofter's rationale and comments on me throughout the game have really been atrocious. Dunno why he doesn't take 2 minutes to go look at prplhz's scumgames himself as he keeps asking people. I don't know how he can genuinely believe with any certainty I am mafia, and jat took apart the Ace-marv theory quite nicely - seems to suggest that he's not really thinking about the game properly.
Ace cos Ace. And what I said about him before. And confirmed town hero Slam thinks he is mafia. Confirmed. Scum town hero confirmed mafia Ace die.
##Vote: Ace
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On May 12 2014 02:26 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:So many awful nightkill speculations in this thread. STOP IT. Just scumhunt the old fashioned way please. On May 11 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote: If I am scum I don't shoot Austin and leave myself alone in a useless qt. I don't shoot the one person hard defending me. Scum CONFIRMED me as town today. Factor that in ladies. Means I could be wrong about Marv for one. Means some other stuff too, but I won't spoil the surprise. Anyone would have shot austin as scum. It does not tell us ANYTHING about you. Why do you think it means you could be wrong about marv? On May 11 2014 17:59 marvellosity wrote: This postcount limit shit is so dumb.
Not the fact there is one, but the way it's been implemented.
So gumshoe the megalurker made a few too many posts at night and now has fewer today? What on earth is the point? It's not like he is constantly breaking the post-limit and needs to be brought into line with a further restriction. If you are town I beg you just play the game today (don't waste posts too much like this, don't go emo). You are definitely still able to solve this game from your position and if you try do that you probably get the added bonus of being shot soon. On May 11 2014 19:35 Palmar wrote: ##vote marvellosity
For not getting shot. please make your defense. Seriously? On May 12 2014 00:44 gumshoe wrote: If you, Vayne, were a super blue role, theres no way you would so casually out yourself if you were under the notion that your role was now MORE important than it was before. You assumed day vig was green, which means we can rule out that your day vig, we can also say your not a martyr because that role shows up as green. As for outed blue roles, we saw a pardoner, a parity, a mason and murica.
Which means your probably one of the following if your telling the truth, hero, jail keeper, paramedic. If your para or jail, why are you still alive? No one really wants to lynch you (except caller, whose dead) so your a pretty hard mislynch. You also copped to bieng a blue LAST NIGHT. Why was austin shot instead of you? If your a hero trying to bait shots, scum can still nk you no problem. Point is, no matter what, nking you is a safe likely profitable action.
Lastly, if your are any of these roles (especially jail or para) why would you call scums attention to yourself? If your hero you LOWER the odds of you getting shot with your blatant advertising.
It makes no sense, far more likely your scum with some hidden knowledge that made you think everyone was a day vig.
Listen townies, I know I'm a bad sort, I lurked until the very last moment and then posted a wall of text and a ninjaish vote. Problem is I do this as town T_T. If you wanna campaign for a better tl, with players who play to win and respect their fellows, do it in the ban list thread. If you wanna win here and now, vote Vayne, dudes totes scummers.
We did not see an outed blue pardoner, mason or murica. Mason was scum and the others didn't flip (who is the one with hidden knowledge here?). The reason why Vayne is not paramedic or jailkeeper is NOT that he is still alive (what an idiotic reasoning - scum doesn't know which blue role he is) but that austin died tonight and martyrs died before. He would have gotten a save already. Killing VA does make sense for scum at some point but he is obviously not threatening to them with his role or in general. Austin was a much better shot. Not saying Vayne is town but your reasoning is crap. You do this as town? WHY? Do you take pleasure in annoying everyone else on your team? In making them lose? Great. I really hope you are scum. ##Vote: gumshoe caller= murica Palmer= pardoner mason = blazing I highly doubt wed have scum/blue doubles of these roles 0_0 Vayne claims hes hero, which makes no sense, why would he be so obvious about it? What he did is probally the worst way to bait a shot -_-. But I get that your so busy confirming your bias against me that you cant see that. Look at the guys filter, he wants to look like hes trying, but he never backs up his reads makes one liners galore. sigh you know that is literally what he does, right?
I lynched him in survivor because he had a bunch of reads that i asked him about 10x and he only responded on the 10th time with a half-assed case and i lynched him for it
he flipped town
can you do better than this?
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On May 12 2014 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Poofter looks as though he has been overcompensating for something throughout the entire game. Marv I appreciate your reads but I think you understand me and why I'm doing what I'm doing even if it means we may lose. Actually there's the opportunity to form an unholy alliance of people who actually want to win the game, a la marv-JAT-Wave-Slam type thing (fingers crossed this list is town of course), but I can't stop you policying your way through the day and I don't particularly fancy trying to argue with you about it.
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About tehpoofter.
On May 06 2014 20:26 Tehpoofter wrote: Slightly scummy: Va, Caller
Scummers: Ace, Prphlz, Ve
poof when I came in thought my posts looked pretty townie, he said so himself, and he was clearly interested in my VE case. So a few days ago he had ace/prplhz/VE as mafia, I come in with a case on VE.
The only thing VE really does is lazily omgus me instead of making any effort. Magically it ends up turning into:
On May 11 2014 07:41 Tehpoofter wrote: Town: Tehpoofter Slam Austin Jat VE
Questions: WoS Palmer VA
Mafia: Marv Gum Ace prplhz(marv) + Ace still mafia (even though I started pushing Ace quite hard) and VE has magically become town because I started pushing him
Even though in quote #1 we are all mafia together. So by virtue of one mafia pushing another, one mafia becomes town and the other remains mafia bussing his other mafiabuddy
I don't see how poof moves VE from mafia to town just because VE omguses me, when poof thought VE was mafia before and poof was interested in my push on VE (although wiffle waffling about it). This VE evolution is so nonsensical
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gonna waste another post, ugh
Cause I had a pretty decent scum read on prphlz but Marv seems really town its hard to think they're the same "person" in the game cause htye seem like different alignments to me.
I am slightly scared of Marv becuase he looks focused on finding scum seems like hes read up on things which reads townie to me but I've heard that he is very good.
I think of VE/Marv/WoS ... WoS is the least likely to be mafia.
So Prphlz to me seemed scummy I asked marv when he first joined to address some posts (I can look it up but its in mine and his filter and I want to get my thoughts out since we don't have a lot of time) He did answer them fairly well it seemed townie. Prphlz to me seemed mafia and Marv seemed more town until he made a couple of derogatory posts at the end. like his one that says "nice" and the whole list of town thing.
Marv for me was looking town with his entrance but I really feel like the Vote he did on VE kinda saying he was scum for calling him scum + the WiFOM action of VE/ACE I quoted don't seem townie to me. So a few days ago (as per post above) prplhz and VE are mafia together.
So I come in, and as you can quite clearly see, I look much townier than prplhz apparently did. You would think the natural reaction if one of your scumreads makes a case on another of your scumreads, and the scumread making the case is looking much townier, that you'd think you'd make a mistake on the one who is sounding townier (marv) and VE is actually the mafia. But somehow it twists that of the two scumreads, the one who looked much townier gets it wrong because he said something wifom? and so the scumread who looked scummy throughout (VE) ended up as a townread and the scumread who came in looking townie (marv) ended up as scum, and indeed his vote.
I included quote 3 out of 5 there because VE is apparently still a suspect there Last quote I included because it's maximum bullshittery and it should be obvious to anyone reading it that it's maximum bullshittery
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On May 12 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Did you not hear the part about me being wrong about marv? And I'm not sleeping anyone. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch Ace. Mostly YOLO, but there are other reasons. That's nice and all but where are those reasons? What point is there in holding them back? All you have done this game is screaming "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM SO TOWN CONFIRMED TOWN WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME? YOU SCUM! I AM TOWN!" and next to nothing else. The only reason I am hesitant on scumreading you is that austin and Foolishness townread you for reasons that I can't check myself. So, do you want to say anything? No? @Marv: Let's say I have this urge to lynch Poofter right now since our little discussion. How would you convince me that we should lynch Ace first? I wouldn't. I certainly ain't leading this town. I'd like to lynch Ace. I'd also like to lynch poofter. If x,y,z said "let's lynch poofter" I'd say "oki doki"
I should probably try to meta him although this blasted postcount limit makes it hard. I was pretty sure he was town in Catastrophe (dunno if you remember, but i was quite anti-lynching him when his name was brought up at the end of day 1) because i knew he was mafia in the ongoing Cell game and his play looked quite different. Unfortunately reduced posting reduces some of that effectiveness, might give it a go tomorrow though. His filter really is very short though. The infirmed prplhz (bless his soul) *still* has 2 more pages than poof does... me no likey.
I'm coming around on VE being town, for slight gameplay reasons i can't describe, but mainly because a) if VE is town, I can say I listened to other people and came around on VE like a good, civilised townie b) if VE is mafia after all, I can blame everyone for talking me out of it
it's really win win.
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On May 12 2014 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2014 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Did you not hear the part about me being wrong about marv? And I'm not sleeping anyone. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch Ace. Mostly YOLO, but there are other reasons. That's nice and all but where are those reasons? What point is there in holding them back? All you have done this game is screaming "I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM SO TOWN CONFIRMED TOWN WHAT YOU SCUMREAD ME? YOU SCUM! I AM TOWN!" and next to nothing else. The only reason I am hesitant on scumreading you is that austin and Foolishness townread you for reasons that I can't check myself. On May 12 2014 07:07 Ace wrote: ##donate 10 posts to marv So, do you want to say anything? No? @Marv: Let's say I have this urge to lynch Poofter right now since our little discussion. How would you convince me that we should lynch Ace first? I wouldn't. I certainly ain't leading this town. I'd like to lynch Ace. I'd also like to lynch poofter. If x,y,z said "let's lynch poofter" I'd say "oki doki" I should probably try to meta him although this blasted postcount limit makes it hard. I was pretty sure he was town in Catastrophe (dunno if you remember, but i was quite anti-lynching him when his name was brought up at the end of day 1) because i knew he was mafia in the ongoing Cell game and his play looked quite different. Unfortunately reduced posting reduces some of that effectiveness, might give it a go tomorrow though. His filter really is very short though. The infirmed prplhz (bless his soul) *still* has 2 more pages than poof does... me no likey. I'm coming around on VE being town, for slight gameplay reasons i can't describe, but mainly because a) if VE is town, I can say I listened to other people and came around on VE like a good, civilised townie b) if VE is mafia after all, I can blame everyone for talking me out of it it's really win win. Hm. Ok, I will have to see if I think that's what townmarv would do. Anyways, since your vote is on Ace and not Poofter I would still like some more reasoning than "he discredited me in that one post" and "Ace cos Ace". There are several days of Aces play to look into besides that. Just one post that tells everyone exactly why Ace is likely scum and should be lynched. That you are giving Poofter reasons so easily and there is almost nothing about Ace makes me feel uneasy. Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 08:47 Palmar wrote: If poof is maf we gotta lynch dat mf scumshoe #preflipassociativereads #scumhunt4lyfe ##vote thepoofter You know what'd be great? If any of you damn "vets" would explain what he does/thinks at least once. I don't need any more reasoning. If you have a better bet, *you* tell *me*. If you wanna lynch poof over Ace, you go ahead and tell me why Ace should live, and quite possibly I'll run with that.
Anyways, my point wasn't that he discredited me, because he does that all day every day as town too, so that's whatever. It was the manner and how, which I hoped I'd got across. ergo a) ace discredits marv b) ace discredits marv while at the same time saying the same stuff marv has said *and* deciding that somehow makes marv the best lynch
Also, you aint lazy, go look at prplhz mafiagames, and stop with this bullshit "i need to see if this is what townmarv would do". Who gives a shit what i'd do, look at his blasted scumgames and come back and recognise it is blatantly not prplhz's mafia play. And then come back and realise that when i replaced in i put a shit-tonne of effort into the game (whether my results were correct or not).
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as well as the fact your first instinct being to call VE scum for calling you scum seemed like not something townmarv would do. (I've only played the one game with you but I hear you're good so I just don't see it as a town reaction) What is this dumb shit, poofter?
1) I love lynching people who call me scum 2) I didn't call VE mafia because he called me mafia? Are you even reading the thread in a basic fashion?
Timeline for you, all verifiable by reading the thread. a) marv calls VE mafia b) VE says he's gonna go find mafia instead of getting lynched c) VE lazily omguses marv instead of doing any work (later saying he didn't even think i was mafia at the time) d) marv said this helps confirm his scumread because VE just lazily omgused me rather than finding mafia
How have you turned this into "marv called VE scum for calling him scum"???
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On May 12 2014 17:36 Palmar wrote:
MarvPalmar not knowing wosmarv is mafiatown means he could be mafia Actually a more true statement now.
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you really could be mafia because you don't give a shit about winning the game
i don't quite have enough cares to think about it though
and i'm never lynching Wave this game, he's one of the only people (unlike you) to realise I'm obviously town. So my unwillingness to lynch Wave is literally your fault.
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yep I know.
but I have arses like you running around throwing your vote on me for no reason.
so against that backdrop, he gets my vote immunity. He can literally keep me alive to 2-1 lylo if he is mafia and I will not vote for him, because people like you and Caller vote for me for no reason and don't want to try to win the game.
Simple game.
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On May 12 2014 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:44 marvellosity wrote:On May 12 2014 17:36 Palmar wrote:
MarvPalmar not knowing wosmarv is mafiatown means he could be mafia Actually a more true statement now. Why are you allowed to say things like this but I'm not? I'm not calling him confirmed mafia and trying to get the whole town to lynch him ^_^
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no they were quite ok. I'm quite happy with what I said.
Unexplainable townread and refusal to vote mafia? Yep happy with that On Palmar for no good reason, weakly on day 2? Yep seems pretty valid. Overdefence of Caller into voting him? Not at all unhappy with this, seems pretty fine Mafia VE has threatened to shoot people for accusing him before? Well that's just fact Generic 3-suspect post which isn't properly followed up? Yes, also quite a decent point
None of these things are bad at all. I probably shouldn't talk about them or I'll end up believing them again.
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On May 12 2014 23:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, also you made kinda a big deal about trusting Fool's townreads. I was a townread of Fool. Another reason I was suspicious of you. that's kinda understandable I guess, although I don't remember seeing a strong townread of you in his filter. More QT stuffs? In any case, I've also now gone against Fool's townread of poofter, don't forget :p
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On May 12 2014 23:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Those are all bad reasons because you fail to consider that I could and have and DID do those things as town. There's a townie motivation for everything you accused me of, but you ignore that fact and just call me scum for it. THIS is why I was convinced that it made you scum - because I thought a town marv would have considered a townie motivation before trying to get people to lynch me.
If you're town, clearly I was mistaken. But yes, your reasons are bad. Oh, only scum make "generic 3-suspect posts" and don't "properly follow up" on them? Okay, so that's a bad point. Mafia VE has threatened to shoot people for accusing him huh? So has third party VE and so has town VE! So that's a terrible point too! Having an early opinion on players after giving supporting reasoning for it is absolutely a surefire scum-tell isn't it marv? That definitely WASN'T a terrible point, nope. Oh wait, yeah it was.
Like, I don't care if you start believing them again because I'll just fucking dunk you if you come after me with this shit again. I'm telling you the reasons are bad, now, when I think you're town because the reasons ARE FUCKING BAD MARV. Anyone can do almost anything as town or as mafia, it's a matter of interpretation, and my interpretation of those events were not unfair nor bad.
What a silly reason to call any reason to call reasons for lynching people bad.
"Can VE do these scummy things as town too?"
Well of course he fucking can. But obviously on balance I considered that the scummy things made you scum rather than town. Woe is you or woe is me. Delete as applicable.
In short, no u.
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On May 12 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote: ::::::::::::::..........::::::::::::...::...::::::...:::.:..:::::.......:::..............::..::...:::::::::..:::....:::::::::.....::::::
we should probably not lynch VE, he may be scum but w/e no-one is saying to lynch VE right now.
Also btw, if you are mafia this game, I am never letting you slide by in any game making no effort again, I will policy you every single time.
Mostly making this post so I can quote it in future games.
To those of you reading this quote in future games: yes, I would absolutely policy Palmar when I'm town, as evidenced by the fact that I am writing this as town in this game. So you better believe this vote is serious. I want Palmar dead today, and that's that. Actually policy lynching Palmar is not alignment indicative, so you better just accept I'm doing it and move on. Thank you for your cooperation.
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On May 13 2014 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:17 marvellosity wrote: What a silly reason to call any reason to call reasons for lynching people bad.
![[image loading]](http://memecrunch.com/meme/REXL/fuck-this-shit-meth/image.png) IT WAS PERFECT ENGLISH BISH
REASONS
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On May 13 2014 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: So I guess the plan for today is to let gumshoe slide, huh? Whatever. Tell me who to vote for later. stop being boring.
it's boring.
you can be apathetic without being boring.
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