Newbie Mini Mafia LV - Page 7

On May 09 2014 03:19 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
4 hours till im dead

On May 09 2014 10:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
@bunnies, why would you roleblock the person you were going to kill?

On May 09 2014 22:40 ahswtini wrote:
What do you think of the fact that mtamburini our fake vig wasn't roleblocked on the second night, where he was almost certainly going to shoot yellow. That, for me, is good enough proof that he's town.

However, I'm getting more and more worried about bunnies. Her quality of play has dropped off dramatically since the first day. As a high priority target, I would have expected her to die already. Yes, Mafia probably thought she was being protected, but consider the possibility that she successfully fooled all of us, especially the jailer, into believing she is supertown, so that it wouldn't look weird for her to still be alive after three nights. She has never pushed me that hard either, despite how easy it would be to, and again I think that's because there's simply no need for her to get involved when the town are already on the case.

With regards to my voting behaviour yesterday, I think you'll find that I DID initially put my vote on mysterymeat, but he convinced me to unvote in favour of killing drav or dfs. Just because I was arguing for meat and dfs to die doesn't mean I can't be persuaded to vote for someone else. I didn't vote dfs because I would have been the only vote, and I was criticised before for making an "outlier" vote. I called drav out to make a post, and her post didn't reassure me of her alignment at all. I also voted drav to make sure the scum team couldn't make a last minute vote blitz onto meat, on the off chance that he WAS innocent.

On May 10 2014 00:12 ahswtini wrote:
Oh wow so we're going by post count now? What happened to the aggressive enthusiastic posting you displayed at the beginning? Should we not be looking at the change in posting behaviour, as opposed to simply how many posts someone's made?

I don't understand your newbie game line either. Are you saying you're not putting your 100% into this game because this is a newbie game?


Still waiting for your post. Right now, your play just seems reactionary. I don't know if establishing yourself as the most innocent player in everyone's eyes has given you a sense of complacency. You're never going to get lynched, so if you ARE mafia, then well played. I don't like saying "I told you so".

As for why I shouldn't be lynched, I'm trying to post and contribute. It's just so difficult to pin down a scum read on anyone at this point. I suspect dfs, but then Mafia were happy to let mtamburini shoot him or myself. That is, if meat's roleblock claim is to be believed. I can't understand why he would be blocked again. Maybe they saw how much town reacted with suspicion to his first roleblock. But there was also the delay before he came out with his roleblock claim. Was he waiting to see if someone else would claim first, or does he just not check his PMs?
This sounds cliched, but if I get lynched, we lose, and I like I said before, I don't like saying "I fucking told you so"

On May 10 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote:

Do you think restating my argument back to me in the form of a skeptical question is going to dissuade me?

Yes, I think so. If he's wrong then he loses the game, plain and simple. It's entirely reasonable to predict that the mafia would predict he wouldn't shoot as a result and would choose not to roleblock him. Look at the consequences of it, meat is clearing you 100% and no one but me seems willing to lynch you as a result. It's a risky play but it's not at all unreasonable. Your handwaving dismissal is doing a lot to confirm its truth to me.

On May 11 2014 12:30 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So i should have explained this before the dfs was lynched. But w/e

So like 2-3 days ago i claimed that dfs was the ledge. Based on intuition and analyzing his posting style i was like 100% sure he was the ledge. So with this in mind i ended up setting up a potential two part trap to catch the other mafia. This occured when dravernor was getting lynched. I put a lot of pressure on lynching dfs, and tried to see who would vote for him and who wouldn't. The resulting situation occured.

Ahs finally convinced that i would not be lynched, ended up switch his vote. However i told him to vote for dfs, because he believed that both dfs and I were def scum. I told him that we would could agree to vote on dfs instead of dravernor. Ahs ends up rejecting my offer without any explanation switches his vote to dravernor.

From this i concluded that dfs was indeed a role, and that ahs was mafia. The fact that ahs did not want to vote for dfs meant that he was an important role. Epishade iirc was willing to vote for dfs and then switched his vote to dravernor. Eden on the other hand told everyone to ignore yell0w but not me iirc. Seems kind of odd because i was pushing for dfs a lot harder than yell0w. The reason that eden pushed for yell0w was because he is an easier lynch target.

So anyway i spend the whole day putting a ton of pressure on dfs cause im like 100% certain he's the ledge. This leads to mtamb gettign shot. Why would mtamb get shot? Sure you can argue that he was vigi it would be best to kill him. But his town leading powers aren't even that great. As a mafia the best thing to do would , be roleblock tamb and kill a town that was on the right case. However tamb had posted that he wasn't going to shoot me, yell0w, and i don't think he would have shot bunnies. That leads to him hitting a mafia and getting us a mislynch which would have been used to determine if epi or eden were mafia. So the reason that mtamb gets shot is becuase dfs is the ledge. Dfs was on the scum hunting radar, and got lynched today really easily. if they had left the vigi alive he would have gotten a shot off.

So by mtambs death last night, i confirmed that dfs was the ledge and mafia in my mind.

The second part of the trap was the fake roll block. The first roleblock claim was true on the night that mtamb should have shot yell0w but didn't (cause he wasn't vigi). The second roleblock claim was false. Yesterday i was not roleblocked. The town would have been skeptical of my roleblock but only a mafia would try to call me out as 100% false. The reason is that because the first roleblock was true they could only try to put suspicion on me but the second roleblock was false. Its none other than dfs that blatantly calls me out. No offense to dfs, but i don't think he is a strong enough mafia player to claim that it was 100% false unles he knew that it was becasue he was mafia. Even bunnies and epishade who imo play better mafia could only say that my claim was weird.

So dfs gets put on the lynch block, and everyone is like aight, i feel this. And guess who ends up being really unhappy with the lynch? Ahs and eden. Ahs, says some stuff, that while i was reading a while ago seemed very contracdictory.

At this point in the game, i think i've figured out all of the power roles on both sides of town and mafia.

I think this game is pretty much over.

so tomorrow we lynch ahs and then we lynch Eden.