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On April 09 2014 18:26 geript wrote: It's ok. Despite being heterosexual he's quiet afraid of the opposite sex. Marv's the same way but heterosexually challenged; he thinks they have cooties still. SO much wat | ||
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On April 09 2014 20:08 Promethelax wrote: Kush is bad with girls. Marv is bad with girls but also a homosexual so it is acceptable for him to be bad with girls, I thought it was pretty clear. Ok, so heterosexually challenged is the new political correct word for gay? We don't learn for mafia we learn for life. Also huge lol at dat sentinel post. | ||
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Hope we both roll town Koshiboy :> (Not asking to be town, I still need to hone my mafia skillz and now I got 2 weeks lotsa time) | ||
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Townies: Koshi, Djagu, Cava, thrawn, (~Kush fwiw) Today's lynch candidates (by PoE and cause there is some stuff I don't like): FT, Omni, OTW, OO, mderg Also HI GUYS =D . Rejoice that you got me and not that crazy grush fac-simile | ||
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Any preferences? Which ones you disagree with? Why so unspecific? | ||
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On April 16 2014 15:52 thrawn2112 wrote: lets lynch mderg You clearly find that post "funny", I suppose cause it's so inconclusive and achieves absolutely nothing saying a lot of stuff which is my opinion about it, why not dig for more and go straight only for mderg? | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:50 OneThousandWords wrote: Why do I have to be specific? You replaced a player who has said nothing but spam in the thread so I'd like to know why you think what you do so I can see if what you think aligns with what has happened so far, rather than it being a random list of names with no factual basis. Yeah but you got to have scumreads, right? Townreads? You see the post with my current conclusions about the game and prefer to see me talking about anything I want rather than adjusting your request to your own preferences. Why is that? | ||
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On April 17 2014 05:05 mderg wrote: I´d like to know the reasoning for Cav, thrawn and OTW. To me Cav is null, thrawn is slightly scummy and OTW seems like town. Nice, that's the reaction I expected from a townie. You get townie points. I found the reaction Cav displayed towards OTW townie: I have three posts and you're scumreading me off them. That doesn't make any sense. I'd actually argue, but you have no real information to determine my alignment one way or the other. (Though, in all fairness, I have been somewhat inactive.) It's firm, it's not apologetic, it's reasonable, aligns with my thoughts. When I see a dude not posting much about the game, I'd rather ask him about something ("Hey read this dude and tell me plz") and not simply point to him as possible scum cause he's not done much. Solving the game also involves finding townies, not only pointing to possible scum based on little things. That is what scum does, which is also the reason I'm suspicious of OTW, looking over his posts I see quite the reluctance to clear people. Additionally he simply asked me about my list of reads and said "Elaborate", that could easily display a lack of his own opinions. Ad thrawn: He's lurky as scum. Here he seems reasnably active and calls stuff out he finds scummy, while at the same time doing some simple conversation about other stuff without trying to look tryhard. There are also things that bug me however and it's the fact that he is kinda focusing on little things rather than the overall picture (on kush and mderg, but I can't tell if it's simply his own way of finding scum) , and the thing with FT's post he simply skipped over, explanation pending. I'd actually rather put thrawn as a townread in parentheses for now. | ||
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On April 17 2014 05:44 mderg wrote: Because he´s pretty much all over the place and every read is has a basis, not that I agree with everything he said. In general this doesn´t seem scummy to me but rather something a town player would do. Can you specify what you agree and disagree with? | ||
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PoE AND posts like this: On April 16 2014 03:46 ObviousOne wrote: I wouldn't say that his activity is the only way to read him and it's subjective anyhow, I basically caught him through POE and that was the best reason I could come up with in Toy Story, he exhibited both behaviors there so I'm going to use the guideline until it no longer works (i.e. he steps up and plays the game). He's a policy lynch because I have no idea what the fuck he is saying 99% of the time. He seems to have the goal of being unreadable in every game he plays and that puts him in my "ok to policy lynch" group because I'd hate to lose to him (again, lol). re: thrawn, how would you suggest I eliminate people from the lynch based on their behavior if not on some basic first post instinct when the game is like 20 minutes in? I've opened lines of communication when in the past things have been not so great between us, unless I recall incorrectly. The last game we played together I wanted to lynch him and he ended up being town, so I'm trying a new approach so I don't immediately put him in a category labeled "people I want to lynch because I hate" Gotta re-read after I get some coffee in me. Only other thought I had for the moment is I didn't immediately want to lynch Koshi which is standing out to me. I think he's more actively participating (rather than posting for what looks like the sake of posting) than in other games I've read/played with him in them. Maybe that's some kind of themed-level-Koshi and I haven't seen a normal ass game Koshi in recent memory? Let's split this into three text blocks. First block is a huge answer about Kaslam. That's ok, that's not my beef, kush asked you a question. The second block is defensive in my opinion. What is your intention here since according to kush you townread thrawn? Btw point me to what you're replying cause thrawn didn't even ask you anything O_o (I don't think I've missed such a thing while looking for it). The third block is meh. Says something semi-conclusive, ends up with a question to yourself. You still got trouble getting a conclusion about Koshi? On April 17 2014 06:00 mderg wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote: Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. I don´t agree with this case on Djagulingu. It´s purely based on Djagu´s self meta which I think is always difficult to base a case on. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote: I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever. Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. I agree with this case on cav + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 23:54 OneThousandWords wrote: This is categorically false. Where do I state that I don't believe he could be vig? Also, I've seen the word smurf thrown around. If it's used in the same way as MOBA games then you're wrong, I was invited here by a friend from another mafia site. Here is wherein the real problem lies. All the people that you seemingly "like" for things that they have done have quite simply started from posts that I have made. Thrawn's main contributions this game: This is his first contribution into the thread other than the non-sensical replies to longer posts earlier in his filter and it's just piggybacking off a post that I made earlier in the thread here. This is a relatively easy thing to do as mafia because: A) It lets people appear to be contributing. B) If worded differently but similar it enables people to pocket the other people that made the original case because they have seemingly similar reads. C) To the people that didn't read it they are fooled into believing it is original content. Now, on it's own I know this is not enough, however, thrawn's behaviour is not your typical town behaviour! He flits from one lynch to the next with little explanation. He practically wants to lynch half the game! I've mentioned Mderg before. Here he wants to lynch Kush. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote: same for me. becasue of this post He wants to lynch ME which is somewhat of a kick in the teeth seeing as he is the one that is sheeping MY point of view on mderg. What could be the reason for this? Is he not reading what i've written? Nope. It's something about skan and nothing about the actual player that he got his read from. + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote: 100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him. He wants to policy lynch an AFK player who is talking about nonsense (Alakaslam). He wants to also look into OE who he also says is scummy before even looking into him. This is not what I expect a typical person to do. Usually it's: I'll look into a player ----> Here is why he is scummy. Thrawn's view is. This is a somewhat scummy player ----> Going to go look into him after I've already made my decision about whether he is scummy or not! In conclusion thrawn is a person who, while talking a lot, seems to be a person of fleeting wishes. He is keen to hop onto anyone he can push a lynch onto. He hasn't "read the thread" and pushes others reads as his own. He calls the person he got his case for on his vote choice scum based on early conversation in a time where nothing was happening. ##Vote Thrawn2112 Here I agree on the part about thrawns first contribution being the case on me is scummy. I don´t think thrawn was sheeping OTW, though. If you agree with his case on Cava why does he stay null for you when you ask me about the reads? Be honest, did you just go look for OTW's cases when I asked you? | ||
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OO can you look at my list of reads and pick the ones you disagree with? | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:57 OneThousandWords wrote: Oh, I won't be around for deadline, is anyone around? I'd like to talk about things so that we can get an idea of who to lynch because Kush is not a good lynch. Yeah, I think you could be scum cause you post cases left and right but don't seem to have a bigger picture of the game, ie you post a lot of points about people being scum but don't seem to want to clear people. So tell me, who are your townreads? | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:59 Koshi wrote: I am looking at those 5 possible scummers and I can't say you are completely crazy so I am going to believe you. Alakaslam hopefully didn't replace out as scum again... Are you planning on pushing a target today? Why is Kush not scum? I don't see it. Kush is scummy as scum btw. I just played against Kush as scum, I'm kinda confident I found out about how he plays scum. Specifically, the way he pushes his reads. He tends to attach onto cases on townies, add some of his own points and show extraordinary confidence about his fake reads while doing very little besides that, I didn't see that pattern yet in this game. | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:09 OneThousandWords wrote: If you think this you are not reading anything I say at all. Please, just your current townreads besides the one on the vigi claim. I don't want a shitfight you're attempting to start. | ||
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Cav I explained, Djag is cause his initial posts are "fuck yeah, I'm town, let's fuck scum" with hints of some sort of roleplay and his posts about weird traps for scum. Stuff like that is usually hard for scum to make up. @ Koshi I'd like OE to explain the last bit with kush, thrawn and the blending in. That reeks a bit like bullshit reasoning. As for who to vote, I need to talk more to reach a more definite conclusion, if you gotta sleep, vote for who you feel is scum I guess. | ||
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On April 17 2014 07:33 OneThousandWords wrote: What do you mean a shit fight? You've accused me of being scum and don't expect a retort? I've only been pointing out things that seem suspicious or scummy to me and drawing attention to them and trying to discuss them with people. It's people like koshi that completely shut them down with the reason "i'm not going to read anything about my town reads". I don't have many town reads really just the people that have interacted like I think a towny would: Kush, Cav to an extent (although I'm slightly aprehensive), I also like Omni despite what people have said (he's posted what he's been thinking and no sane scum would try and call a claimed vig scum IMO) Do you think Koshi is scummy for skipping over your points about his townreads? Do you think that what Omni has been thinking in the post Koshi brought up looks particularly townie? What are your reasons for townreading Cav and Kush? | ||
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