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On April 02 2014 07:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Scummy point for gumshoe.
1) For defending geript.
2) For not wanting to lynch obvious scum but suggesting it is better to lynch a townie who thinks he solved the game.
1: I'm defending Geript because your argument is weak.
2: A third of us are scum Rayn, there are going to be scummy looking townies and townie looking scum. We should lynch to solve, not to sate our own blood lust.
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On April 02 2014 07:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:24 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:42 Palmar wrote:
I like the redundant ~rayn part of your posts.
I'm okay with going in on day 1 with my group. It's by far my best day anyway. THANK YOU. Dammit why dont other people get this? Because should not be decided right now. D2 can be set in stone. D1 can't. D1 should be the group that has 2 people that are incredible easy to read as town and are confirmed town. I think discussing a D1 lynch group should be done after 35h in this game. That is exceptionally optimistic of you Rayn to think well catch scum easy before day 1, but honestly if were playing it that way, day 1 should be someone whose alignment we need to know the most, not someone whose guaranteed scum, I mean if your so certain geript is mafia just put him in slot 3(so hes at least guaranteed to be killed before town loses) and have 1 and 2 reserved for people with large influence but questionable loyalties. seriously bro? Not guaranteed scum? D1 is not some fucking egotripping lynch in which we lynch the loudest townie who thinks he fucking solved the game. Which you seem to indicate. If anything we lynch scum in the group of the best D1 player in the game and are guaranteed that he and the third are townies and giving an honest opinion. Which goes back to LYNCH FUCKING SCUM AND NOTHING ELSE. The goal for town is to win the game, those who blindly lynch those they THINK are scum rarely see the big picture and end up missing crucial points. If we had an honest guaranteed scum who wont tell us anything with his flip why kill him? Hes not going anywhere and it would be more important to use the lynch to answer questions. This is less true in other games because were not sure of all the variables, but here we know exactly how far we can push, the setup is utterly open and we need to catch relations(which are guaranteed to be there cause a third of us are scum) and encourage conversation to win, lynching "confirmed" scum does neither of these things. Honestly I'm just not convinced atm that Geript is scum / : so this whole conversation is irrelevant. I am also not convinced that geript is scum & this fact has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. What a silly statement to make.
Bolded is news to me.
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On April 02 2014 07:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
gumshoe. rayn signs his post.
I am Koshi.
you are really miles away from where I am on how to solve this game.
MILES away.
You and Rayn are firing off in every direction, trusting in your scum hunting skills to avail you I suppose, I on the other hand am pretty much zerod in on you because you are 50 percent scum XD so yeah, I can see why you might say that.
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On April 02 2014 07:31 prplhz wrote:
like, literally
getript
gum
lsb
all completely ignoring my posts
Your a very forgettable poster / : sorry bud. Rephrase das question?
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On April 02 2014 07:41 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:35 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:31 prplhz wrote:
like, literally
getript
gum
lsb
all completely ignoring my posts Your a very forgettable poster / : sorry bud. Rephrase das question? what's your read on me?
Fine. You are contributing in a reasonable manner atm, therefore even if you are scum I see no reason to bully you for being active. If you had done something overtly scummy and I had noticed it, I probably would have pounced.
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On April 02 2014 06:20 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:10 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 05:46 Steveling wrote:
Was watching champions league.
Sleep time, will catch up on everything tomorrow. Steveling plays alot of video games, he lives in greece(athens, its 11:57 over there at the time of this post) and has been known to post/stay up/game late. He also likes quality literature and is invested in public conflict (like the syrian civil war). Which gives me the sense he is excited to play mafia overall and I find he can be quite active at the start of games (have not played with him in some time but thats my old impression). Seems interesting that he feels the need to recalibrate instead when this is really the best time to jump on the game, I mean theres only like 6 pages so far, perhaps he wants to tread lightly? Rayn watcha think? I´m not Rayn... but Steveling really likes to watch champions league and I know it can be taxing to watch close and exciting games. So there´s probably not much to tell from this. Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 06:12 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 06:12 gumshoe wrote:
Not sure of my entire desired order atm but I would like Plamars group to go first, seeing as early games is supposedly Plam's specialty / : he can still contribute early game without him being up for lynch? If hes up for lynch he is put in a position where he is forced to contribute, the quality of that contribution would be telling. In a way he´s forced to contribute regardless of being up for a lynch. Also I don´t think he will stay quiet just because he isn´t up for lynching immediately. I´m gonna go to sleep now btw
Whats your relation to Steveling, whats your general impression of his play and why did you feel the need to answer a question intended for someone else. Do you think Rayn is scum?
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On April 02 2014 08:03 prplhz wrote:@gumshoe Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:17 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 07:16 prplhz wrote:On April 02 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote:
how about you guys just let me be the major, and then I select my group to go first?
Also sentinel why do you think I'm unreadable? I'm like one of the most easy players on TL to read. you know, you can make reads on d1 even if you're not up for lynch on d1. Yes, but seeing as hes strongest on day 1 why not put him in the best position possible to use those strengths? okay now you just need to explain why he can better use his strong d1 if he's up for lynch on d1 than he can when he's up for lynch on d2,d3,etc
I've answered this question already and my answer hasn't changed. What does my answer mean to you? My reasoning is fairly self explanatory I feel so what are you looking for in my response?
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On April 02 2014 08:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:10 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 05:46 Steveling wrote:
Was watching champions league.
Sleep time, will catch up on everything tomorrow. Steveling plays alot of video games, he lives in greece(athens, its 11:57 over there at the time of this post) and has been known to post/stay up/game late. He also likes quality literature and is invested in public conflict (like the syrian civil war). Which gives me the sense he is excited to play mafia overall and I find he can be quite active at the start of games (have not played with him in some time but thats my old impression). Seems interesting that he feels the need to recalibrate instead when this is really the best time to jump on the game, I mean theres only like 6 pages so far, perhaps he wants to tread lightly? Rayn watcha think? I am trying so hard to think about this post and what the fuck is the point of all this. gumshoe what's the point of all this? Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:22 gumshoe wrote:
I'm just curios if you had thoughts on steve, or any history with him I should know of / :
I don't believe this. I don't believe this for one second. ~rayn
You want the truth?
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On April 02 2014 08:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yes please.
~rayn
I was offering an olive branch to see your reaction. No I wasn't honestly going after Steve with so little, but you know I'm capable of weird arguments like that so If your scum you have to consider 2 things, if I'm genuine and if your better off tentatively agreeing with me or turning on me for that silly read.
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On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn
Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment.
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On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn
"Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play.
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On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ?
I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read.
As for your question,
2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire?
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On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7...
Close, it's an ipad XD
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On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days.
Isn't this part of the game your jam?
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On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:
like I haven't really read the thread but the current suggestion seems to be putting up unreadable players early and good players late?
So we just lose straight up if we mislynch the unreadable people twice and the first good player batch happens to be a good player batch with a strong mafia player?
I honestly don't think the order has any impact on the game at all. But I'm fine with being first.
Were of course open to suggestions to change it up, the whole unreadable player thing was just a way to get discussion started. Do you have an order in mind maybe? As long as your first in it im happy 
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On April 02 2014 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:41 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... Close, it's an ipad XD Hmmm... That would be Does iOS7 go on the pads? Didn't know that. Anyway what is your gameplan for attacking this problem of losing two town voices every lynch? In fact is anyone considering that angle?
A scum one is lost as well, so It feels like a problem that evens itself out honestly. Basically I dont think it's a factor that supersedes questionable alignment or outright scumminess(which is probally how we should considering the order, by who we need to flip the most in terms of information and results.)
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On April 02 2014 09:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:42 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 Palmar wrote:
yeah I think this part of the game is dumb. I'll be checking in again in two days. Isn't this part of the game your jam? No, this is worse than the number picking part of pyp No it's not. I ahve already found 2 mafia. ~rayn Cool, tell me about it on thursday. What are you gonna do if slam becomes happy? He still think I'm mafia? Why the heck? Maybe this will break the interperetation of happy? Counter him. Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia non-smiley reasonable rayn = town easiest read of my life.
Thats completely wrong, I have played not one but two extremely aggressive games with scum Rayn, why do you feel the need to tell hurtful lies palmar ) :
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On April 02 2014 09:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:
This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow. I'll do one better. You only need to read Sentinel's filter and tell me if he is scum or town and why so i am pretty sure we won.  ~rayn
Counter him.
Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia
non-smiley reasonable rayn = town
easiest read of my life.
Care to revaluate your read Plam?
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On April 02 2014 09:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:51 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:41 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:
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Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Ha! I have observed! You use am iPhone don't you? Probably a 4 or 4S that you updated to iOS7... Close, it's an ipad XD Hmmm... That would be Does iOS7 go on the pads? Didn't know that. Anyway what is your gameplan for attacking this problem of losing two town voices every lynch? In fact is anyone considering that angle? A scum one is lost as well, so It feels like a problem that evens itself out honestly. Basically I dont think it's a factor that supersedes questionable alignment or outright scumminess(which is probally how we should considering the order, by who we need to flip the most in terms of information and results.) No It is the only reason ordering matters. Think on why. Uscumbro?
I legit dont know what your talking about, also were not lynching all the strong groups first regardless so it's a non issue. Oh and ignorance doesn't make me scum.
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On April 02 2014 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 09:57 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 09:57 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:52 Palmar wrote:
This game is really easy btw, can just read like 3 filters and you're guaranteed one of them is scum.
Will start doing that tomorrow. I'll do one better. You only need to read Sentinel's filter and tell me if he is scum or town and why so i am pretty sure we won. ~rayn Counter him.
Angry rayn = mafia, smiley rayn = mafia
non-smiley reasonable rayn = town
easiest read of my life. Care to revaluate your read Plam? He's outed scum now. WTF HOW
The smile :D
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