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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:18 GMT
#2498
On April 04 2014 08:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
shit gumshoe, what you did was cool. but kinda..... ugh...

:/

well nvm, you got it. Palmar gogogo"!½!

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:22 GMT
#2503
On April 06 2014 09:19 Steveling wrote:
I had to make sure I wasn't imagining things, lol.
After I posted it I looked at your posts and I was like, fuck me.


Still find me scummy? If you still do I aint even man, thats amazing.

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:24 GMT
#2504
On April 06 2014 09:21 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:56 Palmar wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:54 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:52 Steveling wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:51 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:50 Coagulation wrote:
steveling gj saving scum pal.


Ummm. Didn't you just call me scum? We can't both be

People coag is full of it, he hasn't cared about reads or scum all game. Dudes just hiding behind his rep so he doesn't die.


One of the rare moments that gum makes sense.


I always make sense, I just think on another level : P people, look around you, the activity skyrocketed the moment holy switched. This a sloppy train from scum. Don't fall for it.

The reason he's being killed is because I decided he should be killed.

Mafia has nothing to do with it.


Umm, does that sound weird to anyone else? Now I'm just wondering, if Palmar was scum, why did Rayn want his group last...

Also Holy, if you agree with me, you know whose scum in this group right?

Look gumshoe. Plz stop being bad. Like that's just Palmer being Palmer. Palmer was town. Sent was scum. The split between the vote proves it. Ceph coming in just to vote on the wrong wagon only adds to that fact. Like STAAAAAAHHHHHPPPPP


Umm steveling has actually proved niether Sent or coag was scum, so I may be bad, but im not wrong for once : D
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:24 GMT
#2505
On April 06 2014 09:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:19 Steveling wrote:
I had to make sure I wasn't imagining things, lol.
After I posted it I looked at your posts and I was like, fuck me.


Still find me scummy? If you still do I aint even man, thats amazing.



man=mad
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:25 GMT
#2508
Also ceph isn't scum...Holy we on the same page for once?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:29 GMT
#2511
On April 06 2014 09:26 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:21 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:56 Palmar wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:54 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:52 Steveling wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:51 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:50 Coagulation wrote:
steveling gj saving scum pal.


Ummm. Didn't you just call me scum? We can't both be

People coag is full of it, he hasn't cared about reads or scum all game. Dudes just hiding behind his rep so he doesn't die.


One of the rare moments that gum makes sense.


I always make sense, I just think on another level : P people, look around you, the activity skyrocketed the moment holy switched. This a sloppy train from scum. Don't fall for it.

The reason he's being killed is because I decided he should be killed.

Mafia has nothing to do with it.


Umm, does that sound weird to anyone else? Now I'm just wondering, if Palmar was scum, why did Rayn want his group last...

Also Holy, if you agree with me, you know whose scum in this group right?

Look gumshoe. Plz stop being bad. Like that's just Palmer being Palmer. Palmer was town. Sent was scum. The split between the vote proves it. Ceph coming in just to vote on the wrong wagon only adds to that fact. Like STAAAAAAHHHHHPPPPP


You are bad if you think palmar was town.


I'm actually kind of lost. Why exactly does everyone think Palmar was scum? Because a lot of the shit I wanted to say about the other two is in regards to people being weird about the first lynch.

~Cav


The vote was tied, and didnt go to sent by 1 vote I believe... in spite of the fact that sents vote was on himself... If sent is scum he is balls out insane.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:29 GMT
#2512
On April 06 2014 09:27 Steveling wrote:
No gumshoe, bffe pls. <3
Fak rayn and palmar they think they so mighty that could play us all like that.


: D
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:32 GMT
#2513
On April 06 2014 09:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
g-_-g


Also this is the saddest gg I've ever seen / :
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:38 GMT
#2516
On April 06 2014 09:35 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:29 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:26 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:21 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:56 Palmar wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:54 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:52 Steveling wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:51 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]

Ummm. Didn't you just call me scum? We can't both be

People coag is full of it, he hasn't cared about reads or scum all game. Dudes just hiding behind his rep so he doesn't die.


One of the rare moments that gum makes sense.


I always make sense, I just think on another level : P people, look around you, the activity skyrocketed the moment holy switched. This a sloppy train from scum. Don't fall for it.

The reason he's being killed is because I decided he should be killed.

Mafia has nothing to do with it.


Umm, does that sound weird to anyone else? Now I'm just wondering, if Palmar was scum, why did Rayn want his group last...

Also Holy, if you agree with me, you know whose scum in this group right?

Look gumshoe. Plz stop being bad. Like that's just Palmer being Palmer. Palmer was town. Sent was scum. The split between the vote proves it. Ceph coming in just to vote on the wrong wagon only adds to that fact. Like STAAAAAAHHHHHPPPPP


You are bad if you think palmar was town.


I'm actually kind of lost. Why exactly does everyone think Palmar was scum? Because a lot of the shit I wanted to say about the other two is in regards to people being weird about the first lynch.

~Cav


The vote was tied, and didnt go to sent by 1 vote I believe... in spite of the fact that sents vote was on himself... If sent is scum he is balls out insane.

No I refuse to believe that any town is stupid enough to vote for themselves. Like I really can't imagine that ever happening. My reasons for calling Sent scum were good. Palmer was willing to sheep me which makes me happy and him probably town. Palmer giving me such a confident but questioning townread makes him town. Like there is literally no reason to believe anyone but Sent was scum.


Umm, did you see how coag played twoards the end? Townies play bad all the time, in a lynch that close, what sent did makes no sense. Most logical explanation is that he made an emotional call cause he didnt know how to convince town. If hes scum his play is equally as bad though / : why is town magically immune to shit play when all evidence suggests the contrary XD.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:44 GMT
#2525
On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former.


And everyone else had super tight reads? It was a desperate final struggle, where he worked against himself XD. Also, if he was scum, he was saved by 1 vote(also his vote was on him...)... you think rayn was town right? So 4 scum were already on the coag wagon? Or left him out to dry on that close a lynch? Cmon geript, its easier to believe one dude was incompetent town rather than a whole scum team was playing things that loose.

Most likely possibility is that the scum had total freedom this lynch, because it was a vote between 2 townies / : which is why so many scummy people (mdern, prplz(OH SNAP)) were apathetic : D.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 00:45 GMT
#2527
On April 06 2014 09:43 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former.


Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript.


So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections?

Good to know.

~Cav


No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:10 GMT
#2539
On April 06 2014 10:07 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 10:05 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 06 2014 10:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Well

I don't think CEPHIRO is scum at all

Getmoript is unlikely but possible scum.

I am pretty sure purplhrz is scum

So

##Vote: prplhz

Excuse me.

Palmer is dead. Rayn is effectively dead. Your vote belongs to me or else you're scum.


Holy number 1 power rank baby, all our votes belong to him : D even scums.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:12 GMT
#2542
On April 06 2014 06:38 prplhz wrote:
meh

##Vote Coagulation


He typed meh before his vote back onto coag, after switching from Sentinel who he pretty much only voted because he was sheeping plam 0_0 how is this not the definition of apathetic Geript?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:15 GMT
#2546
On April 06 2014 06:34 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 00:08 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 00:01 mderg wrote:
Finished filtering cell 5. Was really exhausting and somehow took over 2 hours.
I will post my exact thoughts later today when I get home.


right now:
getmoript - strong townread
prplhz - slight townread
Cephiro - slight scumread

Can you explain how you ended up at these conclusions plz?

I already said that I would post my exact thoughts later on, I just had to leave really fast.





getmoript: (I know it´s a hydra, it just sounds strange to use they, so I´ll say he)
At the start he actually seems kinda scummy, wanting to policy lynch Holyflare. Also lynching Palmar just to be sure his reads are legit is sacrificing too much. He´s also incredibly focused on becoming mayor and insanely confident. All this doesn´t seem like townie behavior at all
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 05:02 getmoript wrote:
Like Cell 2 is obviously the best first lynch. HF busses as scum and has ok reads as town. I'd love to policy lynch him and under no circumstances should he ever be allowed to mid-late game. Cell 3 should be the third lynch 100%. Palmar is someone who, for lack of a better lynch, we can lynch and then sheep his reads; I'm tempted to move this up to slot 2 because Palmer tends to get worse as time goes on. Cell 4 should probably be the second lynch though because they're mostly unreadable and I want to lynch Alakaslam so that makes that pretty easy. Cell 1 is clearly next because me and rayn usually click on things and in case town hasn't won by then me and Rayn should easily be able to finish it off or I'll hammer Rayn to win the game for town.
2->4->3->1->5 is clearly the best pattern and me/Cav should 100% be the mayor. Like it's obvious, I refuse to let anyone else be the mayor and will policy lynch anyone who goes against me as mayor.


Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 05:23 getmoript wrote:
I 100% think I can nail scum in the first two groups but I'm also realistic that there's a good chance for mislynching in those first two as well.


What actually makes me think that getmoript is town is the decline in confidence. The reads (especially on cell 1) change really often. The only really consistent read is scum on prplhz.
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:35 getmoript wrote:
Actually I've thought about it. I still think Rayn is scum here. My instinct says he's scum with Palmer/HF, but quite frankly if they're scum, they've played a fine game and this is information that we shouldn't have. So I'm striking this off of any accusation I see and holding it against anyone who uses it. We rate and vote for people based only and solely on their merits. If they beat us, they beat us.

Posts like this don´t really show the confidence that was there early on.

This looks like he thought it would be easy to figure the game out and scum were obvious finds. But as the game goes on the reads often change and it looks like they are based on rereading filters, rethinking other options and including new input.
Overall I just get this really townie vibe about getmoript as his thoughts about the game are progressing.



prplhz:
Looks scummy at the start because of the heavy focus on the cell order and wanting to lynch unreadables first (I agreed with him back then but that was stupid). It also seems like he´s nitpicking and sometimes focusing on small details like single words which just aren´t chosen carefully (this may just be my flawed perception).
He gets town points for not wanting palmar as first lynch just to know his reads were legit. He´s also pushing others to give their opinions and reads like here:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 18:56 prplhz wrote:
@palmar who you voting for mayor?

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:28 prplhz wrote:
okay

what's your read on me flare?

In general his posts feel like he wants town to get as much information and reads as possible.
What I also like is that he doesn´t think the circumstances of rayns modkill can be indicative of rayns alignment. I mean, he was drunk and got modkilled in a similar way in catastrophe.



Cephiro:
basically he only posted two huge walls of text. That in itself doesn´t tell much about his alignment but he certainly didn´t put much effort into this game. He´s saying that he doesn´t like the people discussing the orders in which order the cells should be lynched.
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:04 Cephiro wrote:
General note: Not liking the people who are talking about which order we should lynch the cells in at the start of the game, such as Sentinel.

He himself is also discussing the lynch order, though.
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:04 Cephiro wrote:
Fairly interesting post by LSB, his first post with a clear agenda. While I personally like the idea of being able to cut off the inactives players to start with, once the initial order is decided it cannot be changed. I don't think that the first 48 hours will necessarily tell us enough as for the players activities, and if we have lynch targets for reasons other than inactivity, we should go for those first in my opinion.

The major difference being that he´s discussing it as direct responses to posts where the order is discussed.

He´s very focused on emphasizing the importance of getting reads from everyone, especially those who´ll be lynched first but he provides almost no reads himself. Like he is just repeating what he knows is good townplay without actually doing it himself.
It seems like he tried to stay under the radar in his cell while getmoript and prplhz are fighting each other and hoping one of them gets lynched in the process.


In the midst of a vote thats happening RIGHT now, Mderg sees fit to post a wall of text regarding the next cell and barely acknowledges the shit storm going on in thread 0_0 this is because to Mderg, this cells result dont matter, so long as it's not palmer he doesnt care. Which is why hes already moved onto the next one.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:18 GMT
#2549
On April 06 2014 10:14 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 10:12 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:38 prplhz wrote:
meh

##Vote Coagulation


He typed meh before his vote back onto coag, after switching from Sentinel who he pretty much only voted because he was sheeping plam 0_0 how is this not the definition of apathetic Geript?


The issue isn't that he said "meh," it's that he was dead set on lynching Sentinel and then just kind of went "fuck it back to Coag" without any reasoning behind it. Read those three quotes again.

~Cav


So why switch onto sent in the first place?

JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL

A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY


Does that read as scum on scum to you? It makes no sense from his scum view if either Coag or Sent are scum, but it makes absolutely perfect sense if it doesnt matter who gets lynched. Sentinel is having fun here / : he really doesn't give a shit and his fickleness says as much.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:20 GMT
#2551
On April 06 2014 06:42 LSB wrote:
Scum claiming, yelling drunkenly that his split personality is stupid and getting himself modkilled.
About to be lynched, helps the wagon by self vote naming everyone voting for you scum.

Only in Cell Maifa.


Does the bolded not sound bitter to you?

This is the scum team btw.

Palmer

Rayn

Prp

Mderg

Lsb/balla (only cell im not sure on, though pretty confident slam is town)
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:26 GMT
#2555
On April 06 2014 10:21 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 10:18 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 10:14 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 10:12 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:38 prplhz wrote:
meh

##Vote Coagulation


He typed meh before his vote back onto coag, after switching from Sentinel who he pretty much only voted because he was sheeping plam 0_0 how is this not the definition of apathetic Geript?


The issue isn't that he said "meh," it's that he was dead set on lynching Sentinel and then just kind of went "fuck it back to Coag" without any reasoning behind it. Read those three quotes again.

~Cav


So why switch onto sent in the first place?

JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL

A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY


Does that read as scum on scum to you? It makes no sense from his scum view if either Coag or Sent are scum, but it makes absolutely perfect sense if it doesnt matter who gets lynched. Sentinel is having fun here / : he really doesn't give a shit and his fickleness says as much.


This is actually good reasoning, I didn't see it that way.

Ultimately, this gives us even more reason to sit down and start interrogating prp for his motives behind his voteswitching. I like it.

~Cav


YOU SEE THAT MUTHERFUCKERS, REASON AND CIVILTY FOR THE WIN BITCH!!!!!!!!!!

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:29 GMT
#2557
Yay! We all agree that Palmar is likely scum! If hes scum, we can be pretty much CERTAIN that Rayn is scum : D That said, ummm.
On April 06 2014 06:41 Palmar wrote:
Like I've posted most of this stuff before.

prplhz is town. No arguing, I'm better than anyone on TL at reading him.
geript is probably town, he has, or for the most part Cav, has said some strange things, but geript also looks really mafia when he's mafia, so I'm just relying on the fact I always know he's mafia day 1 when he is to tell me he hast to be town.
So ceph is mafia.



Purp... you see how things dont look pretty right?

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:32 GMT
#2562
On April 03 2014 09:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I'll go through everything with Koshi tomorrow. I think we have a lot of shit on the table already as we are only 24h into the game. geript i try to explain my read on prplhz for the last time and if you are town you gotta stop this shit and start paying attention.

Until tomorrow i'm off.

~rayn


The crux of Rayn vs Geript was that Geript was attacking prplz...
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 06 2014 01:43 GMT
#2576
On April 06 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 10:18 Steveling wrote:
On April 06 2014 10:16 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 10:13 Steveling wrote:
Wait a minute there, I'm not sure I remember correctly but didn't coag start the sentinel wagon?
Then HF jumped on it quickly and then Palmar and then the rest of the herd followed.

Are you making stuff up?


G was the one making a case on Sentinel.

Unless you actually want to believe that everyone took Coag's word at face value and just kinda had the entire game flip for no particular reason. The Cavborg has been trying to get people off of Coag almost the entire time.

~Cav


What, are you kidding me?
Man it's so obvious you are not reading the thread I want to punch my screen.

Me and gumshoe both asked HF why he changed vote without providing a reason.
He obviously took coag's word at face value.
Then Palmar said " fuck it lets vote sentinel ", so literally he took HF's word on face value.


I'm going to reread and make sure this is what happened, we'll talk more at a different time.

As for right now, I'm about to go off and do something else for a while. So before I address prp and his wall-of-text, I'd like to ask him one more simple question:

Which one of us in this cell is scum, and why?


Prp, because rayn, palmer, mderg and balla

are all fine with lynching anyone in your cell but him.

Rayn:
I'll go through everything with Koshi tomorrow. I think we have a lot of shit on the table already as we are only 24h into the game. geript i try to explain my read on prplhz for the last time and if you are town you gotta stop this shit and start paying attention.

Until tomorrow i'm off.

Palmar:

prplhz is town. No arguing, I'm better than anyone on TL at reading him.
geript is probably town, he has, or for the most part Cav, has said some strange things, but geript also looks really mafia when he's mafia, so I'm just relying on the fact I always know he's mafia day 1 when he is to tell me he hast to be town.
So ceph is mafia.

Mderg:
In general his posts feel like he wants town to get as much information and reads as possible.
What I also like is that he doesn´t think the circumstances of rayns modkill can be indicative of rayns alignment. I mean, he was drunk and got modkilled in a similar way in catastrophe.

(would just like to not how fucking scummy the bolded is given what we pretty much know)

Balla.

Why didn't you ask prplhz about it instead of just going ham on it right away?

To me it seems pretty obvious what prplhz was saying and I think he WAS taking a stance. But even so, how does him adding the "maybe" qualifier make him scum (why does not taking a stance make him scum)? Townies are unsure all the time, even about setup talk.

You're arguing 2 things here from what I can tell

1) Prplhz is scum because he's not taking a stance
2) Prplhz is scum because mayor DOES matter

and I disagree with both of them.


On this list are effectively two guranteed scum, from hard to soft, the defense of prplz unify the scum team : D he is a beacon of scumminess they can rally around.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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