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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 06 2014 23:10 GMT
#2693
No. Rayn was town.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 01:22 GMT
#2711
On April 07 2014 08:20 gumshoe wrote:
Geript, your problem is your playing this like a regular mafia game, where anything can happen. In this setup scum HAVE to associate and want to win as fast as possible. They're greatest strength is their power to converge on things, with 5 scum voices to towns divided ten they can accomplish quite a bit. Which is why association reads are much stronger, you all ignore them at your own peril / :

I have no specific problems with using associative tells this game. My problem is that when associative tells are your only good reasons for people being scum; you're almost always wrong (in the general you sense not the specific you sense). To expand on my reason for why Palmer was town, you actually bring up one of the posts why I townread Palmer.
geript is probably town, he has, or for the most part Cav, has said some strange things, but geript also looks really mafia when he's mafia, so I'm just relying on the fact I always know he's mafia day 1 when he is to tell me he hast to be town.

Here's the thing about this. This is an exceptionally towny way to townread someone. He's taking a solid stance on me, but he's not sure. There's an uncertainty to the read; he's not comfortable with giving a 100% townread but he's also equally not pushing me. I made a read on Banks in Video saying basically the same thing and he townread me for it. I've seen this type of thing before and this is an exceptionally towny post.

Gumshoe:
That said, I bilieve Palmer was scum because for sent to be scum, the red team would have to be utterly incompetent. Sent voted for himself... the vote was tied and one away from going onto sent...

Your problem Geript is that you rather assume 5 people are idiots, rather than that you were wrong ) : honestly scum just didnt give a shit about that lynch because palmar wasn't under fire. Which is why several people were utterly apathetic.

People are stupid in general. That's not an assumption that's a fact. Sent voting for himself is really really odd for him to be town; he even commented on it. His last posts were the most fucking awful things I've ever seen. He changed his reads like 3 times within an hour after scumreading 2 people in the same pod where he pushed on me more than he did on Ceph. Like NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE FROM A TOWN MENTALITY. Ceph's vote was super super weird; I also commented on prplhz's vote in the QT. Like both are scummy to me. But honestly, it's really simple. Sent's filter was terrible; his posts looked and look exactly like his scum posting and not like his town posting. He was just soft pushing random shit the whole game. Coag actually had some VERY GOOD minor points in his filter and that's why I wanted to and tried to push Sent over Coag. That's why palmer sheeped my read. I had a very good read and you completely ignored it. You're still completely ignoring catching scum via standard means because standard means still work in this game. Like Ceph hasn't done shit whatsoever. Prplhz actually has tried to solve the game at point. He's also had some very good posts and points as of late. There's also huge associative evidence between Steve and Sent. Like if you don't like Palmer for wanting to kill both Sent and Coag, then you're completely forgetting IT'S FUCKING PALMER AND HE WANTS TO KILL EVERYONE NOT HIM!!!! HE DIDN'T LIKE SENT AND THERE'S OK REASONS FOR IT. HE DIDN'T LIKE COAG BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART HE DIDN'T PUT GOOD SHIT INTO THE GAME. LIKE RAAAAWWWWWRRRRR.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 01:32 GMT
#2713
On April 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +

Your problem Geript is that you rather assume 5 people are idiots, rather than that you were wrong ) : honestly scum just didnt give a shit about that lynch because palmar wasn't under fire. Which is why several people were utterly apathetic.

People are stupid in general. That's not an assumption that's a fact.


This is your issue Geript ) : you assume the worst of your fellows and you consider yourself inflatable. As a result you will always unrestimate your opponents, and because you have such a low opinion of others you will never be able to convince them even when your right.

I have nothing else to say to you.[/QUOTE]
So I'm incapable of flatus?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 01:37 GMT
#2716
It's funny. Laugh.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 16:46 GMT
#2756
On April 08 2014 01:43 mderg wrote:
Cephiro actually doing anything this game would make this much easier...


Basically. I actually really want to vote off prp right now, because we all only seem to be comfortable voting off inactive targets.

Speaking of which, inactive targets make this gametype about a bajillion times harder than it needs to be.

~Cav
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 16:51 GMT
#2761
On April 08 2014 00:49 Steveling wrote:
Tbf, with all that being said and the theories and what not if ceph does not appear and contribute he's the best lynch for today.
But then again that's what coag was as well.


The problem is that this isn't a normal game. If he doesn't contribute, that doesn't make prp any townier. We do have to sit down and examine why he would just leave us and do nothing ever because he's going to disappear from the game either way.

We can't play this game by normal rules.

~Cav
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 16:59 GMT
#2767
On April 08 2014 01:58 Cavalinho wrote:
My only real issue right now is that we're banking every last piece of information we have on people that can't defend themselves. I'm probably going to think this over and see if I really want to change my vote or not.

Btw, is there a votecount anywhere?

~Cav


Uhh, oops. Lol.

~Cav
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:09 GMT
#2804
I don't think G is even paying attention to our QT anymore. I posted on why I thought certain things and then nothing else was ever posted there.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one between the two of us that still cares.

~Cav

Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:19 GMT
#2809
On April 08 2014 03:13 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:09 getmoript wrote:
I don't think G is even paying attention to our QT anymore. I posted on why I thought certain things and then nothing else was ever posted there.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one between the two of us that still cares.

~Cav



Please vote prp ) : we catch holy red handed too if hes scum. The last vote is what counts, so please ignore what Geript tells you, the dude is legit wrong all the time.

No you are honestly legit drowning in the deep end or scum.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:32 GMT
#2816
On April 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count:

Coagulation (7): LSB, Palmar, Tehpoofter, [UoN]Sentinel, gumshoe, prplhz, mderg, gumshoe, Steveling, Alakaslam, Cephiro, prplhz, Steveling
[UoN]Sentinel (6): Coagulation, getmoript, Coagulation, Holyflare, Palmar, prplhz, Steveling, LSB, [UoN]Sentinel
Palmar (0): getmoript, Coagulation, gumshoe, gumshoe

Not voting (1): Balla24

Coagulation is set to be lynched.

Here's the reason why you should listen to me over gumshoe. Gumshoe 100% was on the wrong wagon. He was also 100% on the wagon with his now scum read. Like I actually think gum is town and just shitting the bed here, but so long as you don't lynch Rayn I don't care who you lynch. There are actual good reasons for Steve to be scum, both associative and actual. Gum's just doing; well idk wtf he's doing but it's anti town whatever it is.

My preferred lynches:
Sent
Ceph
Steve
Idk
LSB

I have soft townreads on everyone in 2. My guess is HF but honestly it's a complete mystery to me. I think Slam is town; it's not based on what he's said but rather how he's thought about the game. That said if Slam ends up voting for prplhz here or not Steveling tomorrow then I'd lynch the fuck out of him.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#2823
On April 08 2014 03:29 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:29 gumshoe wrote:
Geript, me and steve cant both be scum, so theres max 2 scum on purp right now. You claim that Rayn is town, which means they're are 4 more scum in the thread right now as we speak, where the fuck are they? Why do we not have a majority on Purp right now if hes town and they're are less votes on him then they're are as many scum you believe to be in this game?


Can anyone answer this?

On April 08 2014 02:35 LoneMeow wrote:
Vote count:

prplhz (3): Alakaslam, gumshoe, mderg, Steveling
Cephiro (4): getmoript, prplhz, mderg, Holyflare

Not voting (4): LSB, Cephiro, Tehpoofter, Balla24

Currently Cephiro is set to be lynched.
The deadline is Monday, Apr 07 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).



There's 7 people voting. I'm town and at least 1 of mderg/HF is town. Plus, you're vote is on the same side of the argument of Steveling who's been pushing you as scum, then finally ends up agreeing with you that Rayn is scum. Like wtf? My side actually has more confirmed town than yours does. On top of that, there's 4 people not voting. Slam is like confirmed red here for not following my vote. He finds his top townread and then sheeps them as town. He's not doing that plus his posts have revereted to him not allowing himself to have fun so he's fucking scum. As for Mderg/HF/Poof, that's a really hard one to guess



PEOPLE REMEMBER THIS. I HAD FORGOT THAT SLAM HAD VOTED FOR PRPLHZ. FUCKING LYNCH SLAM ON DAY 5. HE'S NOT PLAYING HIS TOWN GAME. RAYN I'M SO SORRY FOR GOING BACK ON MY SCUMREAD OF HIM.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:42 GMT
#2825
On April 08 2014 03:39 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:37 Steveling wrote:
I'm afraid this will go again down to the last vote and we need to decide if we are voting for the inactive guy or the other two.
Let's take it step by step.

So, those of you reading now, ceph or getript/prplz?


How can you even consider Geript is mafia? He is hard defending Prplz... what does he care? Geript can you not see how scummy this guy is?

I've been calling Steve scum for a while until you when full derp mode and shit the bed. FYI, you're voting with said scummy guy.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:48 GMT
#2833
On April 08 2014 03:37 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:32 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count:

Coagulation (7): LSB, Palmar, Tehpoofter, [UoN]Sentinel, gumshoe, prplhz, mderg, gumshoe, Steveling, Alakaslam, Cephiro, prplhz, Steveling
[UoN]Sentinel (6): Coagulation, getmoript, Coagulation, Holyflare, Palmar, prplhz, Steveling, LSB, [UoN]Sentinel
Palmar (0): getmoript, Coagulation, gumshoe, gumshoe

Not voting (1): Balla24

Coagulation is set to be lynched.

Here's the reason why you should listen to me over gumshoe. Gumshoe 100% was on the wrong wagon. He was also 100% on the wagon with his now scum read. Like I actually think gum is town and just shitting the bed here, but so long as you don't lynch Rayn I don't care who you lynch. There are actual good reasons for Steve to be scum, both associative and actual. Gum's just doing; well idk wtf he's doing but it's anti town whatever it is.

My preferred lynches:
Sent
Ceph
Steve
Idk
LSB

I have soft townreads on everyone in 2. My guess is HF but honestly it's a complete mystery to me. I think Slam is town; it's not based on what he's said but rather how he's thought about the game. That said if Slam ends up voting for prplhz here or not Steveling tomorrow then I'd lynch the fuck out of him.


We were all on the wrong wagon... you believe they're are 4 scum, why are They're only max 2 scum votes on Prplz? Can you asnwer this without assuming 4 people are idiots?

You claim you play according to reason, so consider this well.

Nope, Sent was scum. I was on the right wagon 100%. There are 4 people not voting I can assume most of those 4 are scum. I can assume the ones that aren't scum are shitting the bed worse than you. Like I can't honestly understand why you think anyone would believe your associative "evidence;" I've told you exactly why I think Rayn was town. He was modkilled, he got mad at you swearing town, Steve's been super scummy, Steve had a super weird reaction to Rayn's flip to your I swear, Sent conf scum and pushed Gum while softing town and scum on Steve. ETC. ETC. ETC.

Like I don't need to assume bad/dumb/whatever. I can also assume asshole, needs to be modkilled, shouldn't play 3 games at a time and then keep on pushing off reading/posting, etc. etc. etc. Like it's frustrating, but the # of votes on someone here isn't any reason to think someone is town or scum when you actually think about it.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#2835
On April 08 2014 03:46 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
because there's 3 hours left and he can ninja vote, have you ever played mafia before?


Thereby outing me and slam, that would be oh so nice of him. This game goes on after today for town Holy, only scum are guranteed to lose if prplz dies.

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard right now. Seriously, please stop because you're wrong.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:55 GMT
#2844
On April 08 2014 03:53 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:50 getmoript wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:46 gumshoe wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
because there's 3 hours left and he can ninja vote, have you ever played mafia before?


Thereby outing me and slam, that would be oh so nice of him. This game goes on after today for town Holy, only scum are guranteed to lose if prplz dies.

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard right now. Seriously, please stop because you're wrong.


Answer the question Geript, say you think Ceph is scum, why is he not voting, who is the 4th scum, why are they not voting?

Why are scum not voting for scum.... hmmmmm. Well Let's look at the potential scum:
Balla--inactive hasn't posted in a while.
LSB--pretty inactive
Ceph--Hasn't voted since he ninja voted Coag for no reason given
Tehpoofter--Went poof

Like please use your head and start to think.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 18:56 GMT
#2845
On April 08 2014 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:51 mderg wrote:
Do I see it correctly that we have to decide between the active and slightly scummy looking prplhz and the inactive and slightly scummy looking Cephiro? Seems really easy to decide... NOT


hence why this game is redundant stupid to me

ftfy
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 19:04 GMT
#2856
On April 08 2014 03:58 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:55 getmoript wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:53 gumshoe wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:50 getmoript wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:46 gumshoe wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
because there's 3 hours left and he can ninja vote, have you ever played mafia before?


Thereby outing me and slam, that would be oh so nice of him. This game goes on after today for town Holy, only scum are guranteed to lose if prplz dies.

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard right now. Seriously, please stop because you're wrong.


Answer the question Geript, say you think Ceph is scum, why is he not voting, who is the 4th scum, why are they not voting?

Why are scum not voting for scum.... hmmmmm. Well Let's look at the potential scum:
Balla--inactive hasn't posted in a while.
LSB--pretty inactive
Ceph--Hasn't voted since he ninja voted Coag for no reason given
Tehpoofter--Went poof

Like please use your head and start to think.


lsb is in slams group, he cant be scum with slam. Same to Balla, we can rule those two out.

That leaves tehpoofter... whats his motive for no voting? Jack all, his absence is null, scum would benefit immensley having him here.

Yah. Scum generally benefits from scum being active. But inactive scum are inactive. You can't do shit about making them active.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 19:23 GMT
#2864
Because he wasn't sure on me. His explanation for prplhz isn't as good. But it isn't awful. Like I understood his point and I'm ok with it now.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 19:24 GMT
#2865
On April 08 2014 04:20 gumshoe wrote:
Post is a bit messed up but the argument stands, palmers read on Geript was fantastic, yet palmar found prplz far townier for shoddy reasons, you wanna know why palmar town read you Geript? Because your just that big a threat / : he had no choice.

No. Palmer wouldn't townread me for that. He doesn't see me as a threat.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 07 2014 19:54 GMT
#2877
No we didn't gum. Please listen to me once Ceph flips scum. Lynch Steve. Lynch idk. Lynch Slam.


TOWN.
LYNCH STEVE--REASONS IN FILTER. I THINK GUM IS PLAYING BADLY BUT IS TOWN. RAYN 100% TOWN THOUGH
LYNCH IDK--I'VE BEEN FLIPFLOPPING HERE ALOT ON WHO I THINK IS WHAT. HONESTLY I STILL DON'T KNOW. I LIKE HF'S VOTES SO FAR, BUT HE COULD STILL BE SCUM. I'M GOING TO GUESS TO LYNCH MDERG DESPITE MY SOFT TOWNREAD OF HIM EARLIER. HONESTLY IDK, BUT MDERG SEEMS SAFE
LYNCH SLAM--NOT HIS TOWN PLAY 100% HARD TO EXPLAIN BUT HE'S NOT SHEEPING HIS STRONGEST TOWNREAD (ME)
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