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On April 06 2014 00:08 Steveling wrote: How convenient, so I take it you will inform us of which of your points matter and which don't I guess. Right. If you would like to expand upon why it's important to you, feel free to do so. | ||
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1. You swore town. 2. Rayn knows you're not the type of player who would lie about this. 3. Rayn feels like he can neither ignore your "swear" nor not take it at face value 4. Rayn feels like this gives him knowledge he is not privy to this information and should not have to, be forced to OR what not change his read on you 5. Rayn cannot also equally ignore this information in the pursuit of winning 6. Rayn is required to call Steve scum because you cannot possibly be and is forced to participate in your act of cheating. A scum, Rayn would be pissed, but it wouldn't be as big a deal because he still has a great mislynch lined up. But as town, it actually bothers him more because it affects the game when it shouldn't. It's actually pretty simple and I'm suprised I've been so stupid to not see it up until now. That's why rayn is town, you know plus because scum don't get modkilled for raging, etc. etc. etc. | ||
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On April 06 2014 00:15 gumshoe wrote: He thinks I'm wring about rayn ) : but I'm not, because you have no scum motive to push me like this, our lynch is unpredictable it could go either way, why throw yourself into that spot if your cellie wants to a no lynch? I don't think your THAT arrogant Steve, therefore rayn has to be scum. GET OUT OF MY HEAD GUMSHOE!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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On April 06 2014 01:20 gumshoe wrote: Actually I'm doing brain surgery on him, hes not taking it well / : Quarter done the big one. Well stop with your big one... I don't want to get the plunger to unstop the toilet again. Seriously, Gum. You have me as town. I'm making a 100% townread on Rayn no backsies. Like, it didn't click until I started putting the pieces together last night when I was trying to sleep ( I should've slept instead of staying up), but this is exactly why Rayn was mad. He even has like a big post on it. Him and I have talked about this before, I've just been to tunneled and stupid. Like, I'm going to be dead on that day, there will be 8 players. You will NEED TO VOTE FOR STEVE!!!!! | ||
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On April 06 2014 05:27 gumshoe wrote: Yay : D so what's your sent case? If rayn is scum, he was clearly worried about this group, but I don't see how sent could get lynched over coag, / : so what be your basis? I has Sent case. I think I has 2 of them | ||
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On April 06 2014 06:18 gumshoe wrote: Again, this is coag, I would not stick my neck out for him under and circumstance as scum. Rayn wanted this lynch as far away from him as possible which also hints that coag is scum, sent has no reason to hesitate on this lynch, he gets to choose between you and coag o-o I dare say that is the easiest choice anyone is going to make this game so he's not overtly scummy for not hesitating. This is a bad call ) : No it's not. I don't actually hate Coag's reads and he's actually given decent reasons for them. Sent has been doing nothing the whole time other than push you as scum while soft pushing Steve as 50% scum 50% town. Like this isn't hard. | ||
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On April 06 2014 06:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Yes. But all I can give is my word on that one, right? I'm frustrated because after all this time I'm about to die one way or another and I'm back at square one. I can have my own thoughts but I don't have anything concrete to pin anyone on after all this time. I'm predicting this scumteam: gumshoe, Holyflare, Coag, getmoript, Cephiro HF + Coag I'm sure about. gum I'm still convinced although I can't think of a concrete way to counter getmoript's argument. Ceph i'm mildly sure because his play reminds me of Noir. Lurking except when he really needed to get something in. getmoript is a coinflip, I have no fucking clue about cell 4. But I don't like him so I'm biased for once. I love this scum team. Totes winning. | ||
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Still, I don't think that Coag is mafia. Not by virtue of anything he has done this game (because he hasn't actually done anything, aside from his hydra a little bit maybe) but because if the lynch was correct I don't think everyone would just sit down for almost a day and go "yeah fuck it" and then not post anything again until deadline. The silence felt telling. Currently working on my own cell now, will be back in a bit to post findings. ~Cav | ||
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On April 06 2014 06:57 Steveling wrote: Coag, you are saying that your reads haven't changed at all during these last few hours? Can we treat your reads after your cell is gone as permanent? No, they're going to vanish into the ether and be lost to time and space. ~Cav | ||
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##vote Cephiro | ||
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On April 06 2014 08:54 Holyflare wrote: Only scrubs didn't follow my shit. My shit was better not that it really matters. I want to lynch Banks in your pod right now | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:16 gumshoe wrote: Umm, does that sound weird to anyone else? Now I'm just wondering, if Palmar was scum, why did Rayn want his group last... Also Holy, if you agree with me, you know whose scum in this group right? Look gumshoe. Plz stop being bad. Like that's just Palmer being Palmer. Palmer was town. Sent was scum. The split between the vote proves it. Ceph coming in just to vote on the wrong wagon only adds to that fact. Like STAAAAAAHHHHHPPPPP | ||
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I'm actually kind of lost. Why exactly does everyone think Palmar was scum? Because a lot of the shit I wanted to say about the other two is in regards to people being weird about the first lynch. ~Cav | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:29 gumshoe wrote: The vote was tied, and didnt go to sent by 1 vote I believe... in spite of the fact that sents vote was on himself... If sent is scum he is balls out insane. No I refuse to believe that any town is stupid enough to vote for themselves. Like I really can't imagine that ever happening. My reasons for calling Sent scum were good. Palmer was willing to sheep me which makes me happy and him probably town. Palmer giving me such a confident but questioning townread makes him town. Like there is literally no reason to believe anyone but Sent was scum. | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:29 gumshoe wrote: The vote was tied, and didnt go to sent by 1 vote I believe... in spite of the fact that sents vote was on himself... If sent is scum he is balls out insane. Even if that vote was tied Coag still would have been lynched, no? I stand by the fact that I've always thought that self voting is either WIFOM or claiming scum. Besides, would self voting make you more town by virtue of you not getting lynched? That's such an easy way to break anyone's connections with anything. Prp and Ceph both have incredibly scummy voting patterns from this lynch, and not taking them into consideration simply because Sent voted himself is a little silly. I don't understand you TL guys and your odd meta. Holyflare bussed his entire team in Cultured (and won because he broke meta) and you still think this stuff applies? ~Cav | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:42 Steveling wrote: Why did sentinel provide reads if he was gonna get lynched? Why did he come back only at the last hour so suspiciously to defend himself only to vote himself if he's scum? Why didn't he tried to ninja swap his vote after my vote with only a 1 vote difference, it still was 00:00, at least I didn't know that votes counts until 23:59. Why would he ever vote himself if he's town???????????? | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote: Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript. So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections? Good to know. ~Cav | ||
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On April 06 2014 09:45 gumshoe wrote: No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k? I'm trying to. Also, I'm going to post my thoughts on the other two in my cell. Cephiro really needs to talk more before we finalize our lynch, and his vote on Coag is complete bullshit because he didn't mention Coag at any point during his giant wall-of-text posts. I don't think he even acknowledged that Coag was in the game up until that point. We know nothing about him because he's hardly even playing. Prp was jumping around and being mega wishy-washy about Sentinel's lynch. These three posts: dunno maybe sent is scum ##Vote [UoN]Sentinel JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY meh ##Vote Coagulation Are evidence of clear flimsy vote switching. Prp is scummy, but we know next to nothing about Cephiro other than his early game posts, and he pretty much coasted up until this point. Personally, I think there's plenty of information that makes the Cavborg look townie and prp look scummy. The only issue is that Ceph hasn't said shit other than those giant wall-of-text posts and a vote on Coag with no reasoning behind it. (Seriously the dude doesn't even admit that he's sheeping someone wtf?) With information like that in the thread, it's a little odd that people just go "Palmar was scum because Sentinel selfvoted meta meta meta." Sentinel's lynch was clearly a big deal to a certain someone, but we're all overlooking it because we think Palmar was scum. Honestly, what other reason would prp have to flip flop like that before the lynch? It's not the best evidence, but it seems solid enough to start asking more questions. Prp, why were you flip flopping around Sentinel's lynch? You seemed like you were dead-set on voting Sentinel off, and then you kinda flipped back to Coag for no particular reason. Elaborate more pls. ~Cav | ||
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