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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 30 2014 23:15 GMT
#1641
i dont think i've come that close to being mislynched in over a year

so now that the game is over obviously i was not lying about having a shit early game. i was extremely sleep deprived, so sleep deprived that when holyflare told me i lied I assumed i probably did

meh
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 30 2014 23:18 GMT
#1642
what was that daylight savings talk about? that was like weeks ago.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:18 GMT
#1643
On March 31 2014 08:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 31 2014 08:04 Palmar wrote:
btw, I think we should actively try to force ourselves to play bigger games.

The minis are great when you roll town, but they are really hard for mafia and there ends up being a lot of disinterested mafia players. There's more opportunity to exploit town in larger games.

I disagree, it's only true if the playerlist is good like it was here. I tend to thrive in minis myself as either alignment. Just a matter of preference.

Minis are very much easier for town because the thread is so much easier to read and just a few good townreads allow you to snowball out of control so quickly.

It's happened in a lot of games now. The only problem is when towns get lazy and don't read the thread. But I've been part of like 6 games now since january and town has won 5.

The problem in a game this size is there is nowhere to hide for mafia if town play ok
1.raynpelikoneet
2.Holyflare
3.Palmar
4.IAmRobik
5.gumshoe
6.prplhz
7.phagga
8.thrawn2112
9.marvellosity

All the players in green reasonably quickly became high priority townreads
thrawn looked suspicious but both he and prplhz had decent tone reasons to be town
phagga looked ok but had nothing that simply made him town
Therefore Palmar was a really obvious day 1 lynch, because it was almost impossible that 2 other players were mafia from this list

Then you're left with phagga day 2, and although there's no massively compelling reasons for him to be mafia, there's no compelling reasons for him to be town. In small games if town plays well you can practically PoE your way to victory like this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#1644
probably different times in different countries

was last night in denmark
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#1645
On March 31 2014 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
what was that daylight savings talk about? that was like weeks ago.

British (and EU?) daylight savings was last night
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#1646
On March 31 2014 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
what was that daylight savings talk about? that was like weeks ago.

today in europe
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 30 2014 23:20 GMT
#1647
pft that's what you get for not living in america
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2014 23:22 GMT
#1648
I just reread Robik first 2 filterpages and he was without doubt best reader.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2014 23:23 GMT
#1649
Everything is correct.

3 townreads and 2 scumreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 30 2014 23:24 GMT
#1650
I was tempted to give robik the belt but he didn't really push much stuff. just kind of said stuff that was right. got to get you hands dirty and do some lifting to get belt.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:25 GMT
#1651
As a general strategy point
On March 28 2014 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
One other thing to note, and without giving an opinion on alignments particularly because I cba to argue.

If marv is coming after Palmar hard and in the end produces a case that is very very very likely to get Palmar lynched, then mafia have to decide what they do.

Do they agree with the case and then backtrack really dully later even when it's clear Palmar is getting lynched with or without them, or do they try to look as good as possible from the flip with a decent vote?

PalmarPerson was signed in when posted
03-27-2014
06:36 AM ET (US)
You're doing a magnificent job phagga, I'm so proud.
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phaggaPerson was signed in when posted
03-27-2014
06:34 AM ET (US)
Was that ok so far?
22
phaggaPerson was signed in when posted
03-27-2014
04:22 AM ET (US)
ok, I'll try
21
PalmarPerson was signed in when posted
03-27-2014
04:19 AM ET (US)
You need to take as good a position as you possibly can.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 30 2014 23:28 GMT
#1652
I thought phagga might have been early enough on the push, ie following my case. Until then there was nothing really there.

But i guess sometimes you should just play scummy as scum
Computer says mafia
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 30 2014 23:28 GMT
#1653
i think he was way way too late considering what he wrote about you earlier
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 30 2014 23:32 GMT
#1654
i think phagga played pretty alright, he just had to be a little more active to climb on top of me and thrawn for a LYLO. things just didn't pan out for scum but no grave flaws in their play i think.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:32 GMT
#1655
On March 31 2014 08:28 Palmar wrote:
I thought phagga might have been early enough on the push, ie following my case. Until then there was nothing really there.

But i guess sometimes you should just play scummy as scum

yeah, and then the issue is that it's hard to play scummy in a townie way (lol) because you have to be able to fake the emotion and tone and timing just right. it's much harder to fake being scummy than townie in a way like this i think. basically it's just a hard spot.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 30 2014 23:33 GMT
#1656
did holyflare really counter claim doc when he wasn't doc?

was this good play? i'm undecided, on one hand i can see why marv would not think holyflare was scum for it, but on the other hand it's a straight up lie.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:35 GMT
#1657
holyflare had "claimed" doc before palmar did
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#1658
On the third hand holyflare is insane
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#1659
Led to robiks death so I would say no. Although I thought Marv was doc slipping from his very first post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 23:37 GMT
#1660
On March 31 2014 08:36 iamperfection wrote:
Led to robiks death so I would say no. Although I thought Marv was doc slipping from his very first post.

na, you only think that because i was actually doctor. i would have posted the same as VT
a couple of posts i made later on were pretty slippy though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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