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I'd love it if people would post their consolidated reads every once in a while so they're not all spread out across the thread and impossible to find without reading useless filter of people argument (LOLOL I'M A HYPOCRITE)
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why does marv have 5 pages of filter and 0 memorable content, whereas thrawn and phagga and gumshoe have 2 and have contributed a boatload more to the game?
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On March 27 2014 03:32 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:My case on thrawn: On March 26 2014 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
as to why I asked for clarification.. i'd like to talk about reads rather than playing games to figure out wtf everyone is saying. i'm too tired for that atm Also this post is really really scummy because here thrawn claims he has no time for games and he wants to talk about reads.What's contradictory to this he never really explains why he has a scumread on me, he does not explain why he is voting for me. He does not ask me why i am townreading Robik. He does (or rather doesn't do) all this and then he whines about "people not being transparent and clear with their thoughts". Obvious contradiction. On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story.
thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here. Meta + thrawn making unreasonable assumptions.
Both of these things are something thrawn does not do as town, because he is not crazy town like you for example can be. Meta part is explained in my filter from Extractor trick. In that game i claimed cop 1h into the game. thrawn said "you could be mafia for fakeclaiming". I asked him why. His reasoning was "because you also fakeclaimed cop in Witchcraft mini". Just because i did something in some other game does not make me mafia. After that thrawn refused to elaborate more on the reasoning while repeateldy being asked about it. He also made some contradicting things like putting gumshoe into L-1 in IML game then basically said "don't hammer" which made no sense. The point is thrawn does not do stuff that makes no sense or does not not explain his shit as town, he does that as mafia. In this game he does stuff that makes no sense as my quotes above and below, as Holyflares case do explain.On March 26 2014 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:This is the TLDR thrawn gives:
then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense.
the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...
If you read the content of his case and see if it matches up with the "TLDR;" he writes at the start of his post you'll notice: red) i am not making up stuff anywhere and thrawn does not explain where i do it blue) this is a part of my case. thrawn makes judgement calls on incomplete information. what i say is not scummy just because thrawn does not understand that. ne never cares what my intention of saying things i say is (which i have pointed out). also read my case why this is scummy for thrawn. green) I didn't find this notable in the first place, it's just "this happened", does not say why i am mafia in any reasonable way, but what you pointed out in fact proves this in fact did not even happen as thrawn says it did. Here is the TLDR; from thrawns case which elaborate more on the point i presented earlier. Also there is stuff in his case where the TLDR; does not match up with what he says. His case in full so you can compare; + Show Spoiler +On March 26 2014 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 16:47 phagga wrote:On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you Why are you voting rayn? I don't see an explanation in your filter. then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense. the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content... "2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." -i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt - "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense. -this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment. when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this" so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum but he says all those statements are real? lol Alright, I'm pretty convinced, last thing, can you provide a good town game where thrawn plays sensibly for contrast?
gumshoe...if you recall in GSL, Thrawn was making a funky play with regards to posting a bunch of fluff at the beginning of the day, me getting mad at him for it and calling him scum for it, then he kept going and then he explained himself after the interaction was over.
That's what I thought he was doing in this game originally with the voting outside of thread without explanations. Turns out he wasn't trying to get reactions as I had assumed but was making "real reads".
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At this rate, no one deserves to win the belt. Y'all are just clusterfucking up the thread with shit that's confusing the piss out of me.
Less meta. Less nonsense. More:
My town list is this:
My mafia list is this:
if you want to include a short explanation or a link to posts you've made about it, that's fine. But you guys are legitimately sitting here and recycling the same 5 fucking phrases over and over again. It's really stupid and annoying and it needs to stop. If you don't understand the cases that have been presented so far, then you'll never fucking understand them, cause they've been explained to such great fucking length at this point that a fucking 6 year old without an understanding of 1/2 the words that you use would fucking figure out who thinks who is town and scum.
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On March 27 2014 06:05 prplhz wrote:
not even you robik?
Yeah...didn't think I deserved a spot...cause you know...I didn't already make my list and I wasn't just typing that as an example of what I would like to see.
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My list:
On March 27 2014 01:27 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:16 Palmar wrote:
Do you wanna talk because marv is an asshole Robik? I mean, I'm trying to keep up with two games right now -- didn't realize they'd start simultaneously. But yeah...I'm down to talk. I'm currently on pg 19 of this game. Is there anything that you think I should keep my eye out for. At this point in the thread, Thrawn is getting some pressure, and probably deservedly so. Having said that, I initially read Thrawn town because I thought he was just gonna vote outside of thread without giving any explanations in thread in order to see what people say and gauge reactions. Then he started on his Raynscapade and that felt off. I feel great about Rayn. I feel pretty god about HF. I don't feel so great about phagga (man this name is so inappropriate to say out loud) because it seems like he's just throwing in his opinion a sentence at a time here or there to softly push some random agendas and it doesn't seem like he's putting himself out there. I don't feel all that great about you, but I'm not sure. You're definitely playing on a different level than foundations. You seem to care a bit more and if I were to meta it based off of 1 game together, I'd say that's scummy for you cause you posted a bunch of nonsensical bullshit on d1 in foundations and were very wishy washy on everything. I don't have strong opinions about marv. From what I've heard of his town game, he's supposed to be top town TL, but not so great scum, and I haven't gotten that top town TL feel from him thus far....so maybe he's scum? That's where I'm at so far.
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On March 27 2014 06:09 Koshi wrote:Vote Count IAmRobik (0)- thrawn2112, Palmar (2)- IAmRobik, Holyflare, marvellosity raynpelikoneet (0)- thrawn2112, Holyflare thrawn2112 (5)- raynpelikoneet, phagga, Holyflare, Palmar, gumshoe marvellosity (1)- prplhz, Palmar Currently no one is set to be lynched. You have many hours left. If you see a mistake please notifyAlso PM me for obs QT
Thrawn has 5 votes and no one is set to be lynched. Yikes! Pregame said that HF will have some secret powers. Do you stop any lynch that you're vote is on? dafuq
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On March 27 2014 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 06:09 IAmRobik wrote:My list: On March 27 2014 01:27 IAmRobik wrote:On March 27 2014 01:16 Palmar wrote:
Do you wanna talk because marv is an asshole Robik? I mean, I'm trying to keep up with two games right now -- didn't realize they'd start simultaneously. But yeah...I'm down to talk. I'm currently on pg 19 of this game. Is there anything that you think I should keep my eye out for. At this point in the thread, Thrawn is getting some pressure, and probably deservedly so. Having said that, I initially read Thrawn town because I thought he was just gonna vote outside of thread without giving any explanations in thread in order to see what people say and gauge reactions. Then he started on his Raynscapade and that felt off. I feel great about Rayn. I feel pretty god about HF. I don't feel so great about phagga (man this name is so inappropriate to say out loud) because it seems like he's just throwing in his opinion a sentence at a time here or there to softly push some random agendas and it doesn't seem like he's putting himself out there. I don't feel all that great about you, but I'm not sure. You're definitely playing on a different level than foundations. You seem to care a bit more and if I were to meta it based off of 1 game together, I'd say that's scummy for you cause you posted a bunch of nonsensical bullshit on d1 in foundations and were very wishy washy on everything. I don't have strong opinions about marv. From what I've heard of his town game, he's supposed to be top town TL, but not so great scum, and I haven't gotten that top town TL feel from him thus far....so maybe he's scum? That's where I'm at so far. What's your read on prplhz?
I'd probably adjust your list to have the two p's switch places...other than that I'm in agreement.
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On March 27 2014 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Robik, the game is 36 pages long.
Your reads are from page 19. Nothing has changed since then regarding your reads?
I got lazy and have been keeping up with the thread instead of catching up. I still haven't read 20-27/8. The other reads are up to date. They were posted on pg 29....they took what happened on pages 27/8 when I came back into the thread into account. Besides that, the past few pages are just people building post coutns and reiterating their opinions. Like...there's been so little new information presented.
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On March 27 2014 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually just fuck it.
See you in 24 hours or so.
Policy.
##unvote
##vote prplhz
I don't even give a fuck if he is mafia or not because if he is not he is still playing towards mafia win condition.
I am not going to post until one of us dies.
quit being a whiny baby
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On March 27 2014 07:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 06:24 IAmRobik wrote:On March 27 2014 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Robik, the game is 36 pages long.
Your reads are from page 19. Nothing has changed since then regarding your reads? I got lazy and have been keeping up with the thread instead of catching up. I still haven't read 20-27/8. The other reads are up to date. They were posted on pg 29....they took what happened on pages 27/8 when I came back into the thread into account. Besides that, the past few pages are just people building post coutns and reiterating their opinions. Like...there's been so little new information presented. Tell me, how do you know there has been little information presented if you have not read 8 pages of content?
Did I not word what I said properly? I said that I was lazy and didn't read 20-27/8 yet. I said that I did read pages 28-present and think that there has been nothing new presented in those pages. I still have time to read 20-28. There were a lot of pages to catch up on when I woke up and got to work and opened the thread. I just got home and am sitting in my bathtub. I will probably read those pages tonight. I do also ahve almost a full day tomorrow. There's time yet to see if there is more information provided in those pages i missed.
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Just finished pg 39. Two things to note:
1) Not reading your role PM is against the spirit of the game.
2) Thrawns 3 spoiler posts were decent-ish, but like, I don't understand why it would take so long to make them instead of just playing like a normal fucking human being would play. He's been way too polarizing in his actions and he's swinging between both poles.
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I'm up to pg 43...has Rayn really not come back since that prplhz bullshit? If so, he needs to get kicked in the balls.
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the end of 42-43 marv/hf interactions reads so fake and so forced it's almost making me reconsider the whole fucking game.
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On March 27 2014 19:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:On March 27 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:On March 27 2014 19:29 Palmar wrote:On March 27 2014 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Also explained how you went after me is not how you would do it if you were town.
Ez pz. Your theory that I would come hard after you, probably with an actual case as town is so ridiculous because the point is that you didn't say anything for a long time. I was actually expecting you to say something so I could explain why it's bad. Now I have and you keep rehashing your initial points. It doesn't make them valid. Or that you would omgus me properly rather than pussyfooting around it. And by this I meant, actually probably call me scum or stupid rather than making me get you to do it. Also already explained. Yeah but how can I reasonably call you scum or stupid when you refuse to provide any content to back up your stupidity. I said as much "my entire case on you is that you called me mafia". well that's where it falls flat because marv doesn't call ppl mafia as mafia he gets other ppl to do it for him and pushes "suspicions" to make people do it
all i'm hearing from reading your posts is that you think marv is mafia and yet you're voting for palmar, who marv is pushing. I don't fucking get it. Maybe something changes in the next couple of pages/minutes. This is all very strange to me.
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On March 27 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 23:54 Palmar wrote:On April 14 2012 19:08 Blazinghand wrote:
blow me town Literally a direct scumclaim
what does the blazinghand quote have to do with anything -.-
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On March 27 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
Now shut up and stay in line like a good little sheep.
I'm the first one to call out palmar and vote for him....and you used my "silly, irrational" case as part of your case. So if he flips scum, you can suck it.
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On March 28 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2014 00:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 27 2014 19:35 Holyflare wrote:On March 27 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:On March 27 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:On March 27 2014 19:29 Palmar wrote:On March 27 2014 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Also explained how you went after me is not how you would do it if you were town.
Ez pz. Your theory that I would come hard after you, probably with an actual case as town is so ridiculous because the point is that you didn't say anything for a long time. I was actually expecting you to say something so I could explain why it's bad. Now I have and you keep rehashing your initial points. It doesn't make them valid. Or that you would omgus me properly rather than pussyfooting around it. And by this I meant, actually probably call me scum or stupid rather than making me get you to do it. Also already explained. Yeah but how can I reasonably call you scum or stupid when you refuse to provide any content to back up your stupidity. I said as much "my entire case on you is that you called me mafia". well that's where it falls flat because marv doesn't call ppl mafia as mafia he gets other ppl to do it for him and pushes "suspicions" to make people do it all i'm hearing from reading your posts is that you think marv is mafia and yet you're voting for palmar, who marv is pushing. I don't fucking get it. Maybe something changes in the next couple of pages/minutes. This is all very strange to me. that's why you're still in newbies buddy
Oh snap. What an insult. Let me go slit my wrists real fucking quick and cry in a corner while I bleed to death.
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On March 28 2014 00:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2014 00:03 IAmRobik wrote:On March 27 2014 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
Now shut up and stay in line like a good little sheep. I'm the first one to call out palmar and vote for him....and you used my "silly, irrational" case as part of your case. So if he flips scum, you can suck it. ok, now shut up. you're annoying and bad.
Sorry, pro!
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