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On March 26 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 15:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also the things you said about Robik are hilarious.
I am more interested in what other people think about all this. There is nothing i want to discuss with you. Please point out to me where it is wrong. He has read 1 or 2 games of you as mafia and 1 of those is foundation where you yourself said that the game was shit and totally not your meta so in actuality he has read 1 game of mafia from you. He has read 0 town games. He calls out something about smiley's which didn't happen in any of your scum games that I looked at and seeing as he has read 0 of your town games how does he know you do not do that as town? You defend robik and say everything is shit and boo hoo i don't want to talk to holy anymore. You so funny.
I don't know if you dropped this later, but you're pressing this way too hard. It seems extremely obvious to me that Robik is the type of player who will leap to hard conclusions off little to no evidence (correctly or incorrectly). I have no idea why you'd think what he's doing is outside of his normal remit
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On March 26 2014 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Remind of this post when marv comes back to thread. I'll prove you i am town then.
Reminder
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yes my 20k post isn't going to be impressive because cba. :D
On March 26 2014 19:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On March 26 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also the things you said about Robik are hilarious.
I am more interested in what other people think about all this. There is nothing i want to discuss with you. Please point out to me where it is wrong. He has read 1 or 2 games of you as mafia and 1 of those is foundation where you yourself said that the game was shit and totally not your meta so in actuality he has read 1 game of mafia from you. He has read 0 town games. He calls out something about smiley's which didn't happen in any of your scum games that I looked at and seeing as he has read 0 of your town games how does he know you do not do that as town? You defend robik and say everything is shit and boo hoo i don't want to talk to holy anymore. You so funny. I don't know if you dropped this later, but you're pressing this way too hard. It seems extremely obvious to me that Robik is the type of player who will leap to hard conclusions off little to no evidence (correctly or incorrectly). I have no idea why you'd think what he's doing is outside of his normal remit because i had never played with him and it's retarded and rayn knew it was retarded and didn't bother to point it out and just said "shit logic" "u bad" when all he had to do was do what you just did and point out that i was wrong to assume something like that, he perpetuated the argument by antagonising me.
I think this is just a bona fide breakdown in communication between you two, because that is not how I'm reading it as I go through the thread. rayn is behaving and arguing like rayn, not like mafiarayn. He's making assumptions and starting from a base that you are not, you're getting mad about it, rayn keeps arguing because rayn will always argue, etc etc.
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On March 26 2014 16:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly
so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.
and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.
so what is going on? this is a legit good post for thrawn to make and he backed it up with research as well
actually the post was terrible.
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this rayn-holy argument is the most annoying thing ever.
Tempting to policy thrawn for gloating about rayn not knowing why he's voting for him. Basically an asshat move. I like lynching asshats.
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On March 26 2014 17:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:marv please come here and stop Holyflare.  or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this. like, how can someone twist everything so badly. because you put me in a fowl mood by being a dick to me instead of actually attempting to talk things through with me so of course it's made my judgement clouded because you are a twat
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On March 26 2014 18:01 Holyflare wrote:
if it doesn't say "i am town or i am vt" then it is not a town claim
Just to clarify it once and for all - it was clearly an implied town claim. Not gonna wrap anything up in words, but rayn was saying "i am town, so town will win this belt"
Fin.
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On March 26 2014 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 19:23 Palmar wrote:On March 26 2014 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where did i create a trap? On March 26 2014 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're misconstruing the timeline of events here
he says he can read you town based off of one alignment null post ----> i ask him why ----> he says just because and then elaborates some bs about smileys that isn't true in any of your games and doesn't apply to your first post at all ---> then says it must be true based off of one games reading when you were mafia but in a bad game ----> then says he hasn't read any of your town games so doesn't actually know whether what he says is true or not What does this have to do with anything i have said? I have never elaborated on if i think that's a legit way to form a read or not. I have said it's not scummy because i know that's how Robik reads people when he is town. He thinks it's a good way to form reads and so far he has been about 90% correct in his reads formed that way. so WHY NOT SAY THIS 4 PAGES BACK INSTEAD OF SAYING IT'S SHIT LOGIC how the fuck do i know how robik plays and when he points out that he hasn't read any of your town games i just take that lying down? no i push that you could have said anything to stop me doing this but you perpetuated that it was a bad case, shit logic, don't want to talk to me etc etc why? Because i wanted to see other people's opinions on this and i caught mafia!thrawn. trap != "i want more opinions before i give my own" Why are you this bad Palmar?
I agree 100% with this post. It's a really cheap post from Palmar.
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On March 26 2014 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 16:47 phagga wrote:On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you Why are you voting rayn? I don't see an explanation in your filter. then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense. the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content... "2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." -i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt - "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense. -this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment. when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this" so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum but he says all those statements are real? lol
thrawn, I'm going to play nicey-nicey with you because, ya know, I'm just a swell dude all round and you already have a bunch of people on your case.
As you may have noticed, when I was going through the thread I also initially guessed point 2 was a lie. But on discovering it wasn't, I didn't go into the apoplexy that you have appeared to. I agree with you that the whole paragraph is phrased a little oddly, but this is nothing new to me for rayn, so I don't understand why you're so shocked about it? Further he didn't say he doesn't care about winning the belt. The Robik town/mafia thing is that if he is town he is psychic (of some sort) but he could also be mafia making the read because mafia know alignments. rayn also explains later that the way Robik presented the read was townie, hence the townread on him (I agree with this point btw). Why are you so sure town-rayn cannot post these things?
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On March 26 2014 20:20 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 20:13 prplhz wrote:
okay up to date but i don't really have a single read so far but the town atmosphere is really bad, play nice okay? I don't understand why you say this? Me and Holyflare are living happily ever after and nothing else was shit in the first place, no? because i don't like it when people are assholes
I don't like it when players read the whole thread and proffer no opinions on anything that's occurred, but who's bitching, eh?
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On March 26 2014 08:13 Palmar wrote:My idea kinda died anyway. I just remembered that rayn also did a townclaim at the beginning of titanic, and that he didn't really in foundation, but reading back I found that he opened with that unvoting plan in default suspicion, so whatever.
Palmar can you just clarify this for me please?
In the blue you are remembering when he townclaimed or not, and the green is when you went back to check games?
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no I'm done. My last two posts at thrawn/palmar were going back to pick up on things.
Jeez, keep up with the timeline.
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On March 26 2014 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
no I'm done. My last two posts at thrawn/palmar were going back to pick up on things.
Jeez, keep up with the timeline. Is there a reason you are not voting for thrawn or commenting on my case on him / what Holyflare said about him?
On March 26 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
thrawn, I'm going to play nicey-nicey with you because, ya know, I'm just a swell dude all round and you already have a bunch of people on your case.
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You don't have to get it. I want to talk to thrawn without fingerpointing at him is all you need to take out of it.
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On March 26 2014 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yessir.
I think game is kinda easy because i don't really see anyone being mafia except for thrawn/Palmar/prplhz.
Off chance for a couple of other players but chances are small, like 3%.
So you're pretty sure gumshoe is town now?
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On March 26 2014 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 20:54 marvellosity wrote:On March 26 2014 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yessir.
I think game is kinda easy because i don't really see anyone being mafia except for thrawn/Palmar/prplhz.
Off chance for a couple of other players but chances are small, like 3%. So you're pretty sure gumshoe is town now? I have been really really sure since i started telling him why i thought his case on Palmar was dumb and started explaining him what Palmar meant with his posts.
Because he was a stubborn bitch?
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Ok. That's mainly the reason I was town on him after it died down and hopefully it should be obvious why I didn't want to "stop" whatever gumshoe was doing by wading in with a categorical opinion at the time.
I'm not quite as certain as you are though :>
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Not as dopey as you look, eh.
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I'd quite like to murder Palmar.
Who's in?
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On March 26 2014 22:10 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 21:58 Palmar wrote:On March 26 2014 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar what do you think gumshoe's alignment is and how sure you are of it? probably town Why do you think gumshoe is town? @Marv Why do you want to lynch Palmar?
I believe I asked a question first. You may not answer a question with a question.
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