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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 06:27 GMT
#933
On March 19 2014 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg such pages.

Reading now.


finished yet?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 06:32 GMT
#936
On March 19 2014 15:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 15:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
omg such pages.

Reading now.


finished yet?


What do you think of giggletummy


I haven't decided, I'd like to have this explained first

On March 19 2014 08:58 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:56 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:47 Giggletummy wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.

I don't see overdefensive.


Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm.


What does that mean?

I think you are scummy scum.

Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless.

I liked what Kush said.



On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.



For this post:

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.



I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be.

I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point.

Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased.

-Koshi his judgement-
replying for reasons

Also what is this?
It is me noting something for reasons. Will discuss later, want to talk to Flare

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 09:27 GMT
#963
On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote:
There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off.


I know what you mean but I sorta feel the same way about DP
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 09:47 GMT
#970
On March 19 2014 18:30 Palmar wrote:
thrawn who are your top 3 town reads and why?


rayn - i watched him in foundation and what seemed most different in his play there compared to his town play is that he didn't seem as interested in finding scum, and he didn't appear to act like he was going to be a strong town leader. he knows his skill level and as town i think he usually feels a lot of repsonsibility for helping town win. It's a hard thing to pinpoint but this is probably the closest I can get:

On March 19 2014 13:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i am srsly gonna go to bed. I hope we have an answer when i wake up.


It's stuff like that where I feel like rayn is sincerely trying to push town in a direction that he believe will help him lynch scum.

Another big reason is this post which is supposed to be from his notes during the time he rage quit the thread. I think it's a lot more likely that he did that (that = make notes during rage quite) as town than he did that as scum.

Koshi, mostly because he seems to be having fun and I can feel the thought behind his posts even when they aren't given.

I think tehpoofter is town. I already talked about my initial read on his post, and that read was further solidified by him claiming to have "set a trap" for vivax here

I don't think there's anyone else that I'd feel confident as labeling a "top" town read. I think both dp and hf are town but I can't get over this nagging doubt that one of them is full of crap.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 09:48 GMT
#971
On March 19 2014 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 18:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote:
There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off.


I know what you mean but I sorta feel the same way about DP


Thrawn NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


yeah i'm sorry lol.

what I said there is mostly related to why I asked holyflare to stop talking about you. I think that if he's town, the way he's going about attacking you (being a giant douche) is making it difficult for me to get a good read on either of you
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 09:55 GMT
#976
On March 19 2014 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
vote on thrawn.
proper vote when i get home.

Can you explain what exactly feels off about HF or DP thrawn?


when I read HF's posts I think "does this guy really belive what he's saying" (in regards to stuff he's said about dp)

some of DP's posts feel like he's not trying hard enough, like he's giving himself outs for lame reasons so that he doesn't have to take firm stances (mostly regarding HF)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 09:56 GMT
#977
On March 19 2014 18:52 Palmar wrote:
I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.

I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.

This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment.


better doesn't = townier

so no, i do not think tehpoofter looks "better" than you. i think he is more likely to be town than you.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:03 GMT
#979
On March 19 2014 18:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 18:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
vote on thrawn.
proper vote when i get home.

Can you explain what exactly feels off about HF or DP thrawn?


when I read HF's posts I think "does this guy really belive what he's saying" (in regards to stuff he's said about dp)

some of DP's posts feel like he's not trying hard enough, like he's giving himself outs for lame reasons so that he doesn't have to take firm stances (mostly regarding HF)

1-2 examples?


dp:

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.


bolded "i have this scum read on you that i'm going to lazily ignore because of 1 previous game"

On March 19 2014 18:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote:
There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off.


I can't really comment on Holyflare anymore. He is so deeply tunnelled and pissed me off so epicly that I can't make unbiased judgements of his alignment.


I would really like to know what dp thinks about HF but apparently he is unable to explain what he thinks. It's pretty furstrating because while I hate the cop-out, I completely understand the reasoing behind it.

hf:

pretty much any of his posts that are directed at DP. they've got too much fluff in them that's cmpletely devoted to ad hom or similar malicious rhetoric that it makes it really hard for me to figure out if HF is being genuine
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:10 GMT
#981
it's nothing about your content, it's about my expectations of your play compared to my expectations of tehpoofter's play

and no, i have never said you aren't town, i've never said anything about what I think about your alignment. tbh i prefer to keep it that way.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:15 GMT
#983
yeah i'd lynch ve
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:20 GMT
#988
On March 19 2014 19:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
it's nothing about your content, it's about my expectations of your play compared to my expectations of tehpoofter's play

and no, i have never said you aren't town, i've never said anything about what I think about your alignment. tbh i prefer to keep it that way.


What expectations have I failed to live up to?

You can't just claim shit like this without explaining what you mean. Sure I understand you don't expect poofter to be some amazing mass-posting supertownie, but I don't see how even if you give him a "noob" status he has fully lived up to expectations, so my only reasonable conclusion is that I have somehow not lived up to your expectations of me.

So, what are those expectations?


my expectations of you as town is that as some point you will do something that makes me think "wow palmar such town i will never doubt this read" like when you started talking to yourself in foundation.

I sorta got that feeling from the way you talked about how coag should be modkilled because it felt similar to the frustration you felt in foundation over how pushing a boone (the claimed doc) lynch would be impossible, therefore you must just assume she's town and not care about the game if she was mafia.

So yes i do think you are town but not so much that I would care to write this many words about it if you weren't being so annoying about it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:21 GMT
#990
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:28 GMT
#992
stop equating "naturally looking townier as town" with "ability to appear town as town"

seems like you're just mad because you weren't in my top 3 town list? anyways i don't care any more, I'm very very far from trying to lynch you so I don't want to waste any more time posting about it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:35 GMT
#998
On March 19 2014 19:29 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him


And why VE over some other guys I assume you also lack of reasons not to lynch ?
Why did you bring up a lynch on VE just when DP was just mentioning him ?


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:51 GMT
#1003
On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.



hmm?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 10:59 GMT
#1008
On March 19 2014 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.



hmm?


what? hmm>


i dont remember calling vivax mafia
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:14 GMT
#1292
i'd probably lynch out of this group right now

4. djodref
6. VisceraEyes
8. Vivax
15. Alakaslam
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:19 GMT
#1295
On March 20 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
meh I didn't think djodref was that bad, don't like his disappearance though


can you find a non-rayn read in djo's filter? i can't.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:28 GMT
#1298
hopeless is town so i dont care about that question.

ggtmy should probably go on that list but there is something about how this stuff happened that makes me think he might be town:

On March 20 2014 00:10 Giggletummy wrote:

(1) I was fishing for a reaction. I got a scummy one. Therefore, DP is scum. He's done some stuff since, but I don't care, original reasons stand. (See this post, which is why I marked it - + Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:37 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.

I don't see overdefensive.


Really. The all caps thing was not over defensive? But you agreed that I was over defensive.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm.


What does that mean?

I think you are scummy scum.

Why? You need to provide reasoning or your position is meaningless.

I liked what Kush said.



On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.



For this post:

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.



I want to know how on earth you though I was scummy/over defensive for that post, but Coag ragingin all caps was NOT over defensive. That seems like a very arbitrary decision for one thing to be over defensive and another far more defensive thing to not be.

I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point.

Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased.

-Koshi his judgement-



as for oats, he had been consistently calling me scum up till a point where he wrote a lynch list that didn't innclude me, nowhere in his filter does it indicate that his read on me was changing before that lynch list post. his push on me wa a main component of his play so if he were scum i'd expect him to at least document the fact that his thrawn-read changed, if not give his reasons for the flop, given how scum want to keep their story straight. furthur, the fact that he has reads that change that aren't documented in his posts suggest that he is actualyl thinking about his reads even when he's not posting about them
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 17:37 GMT
#1300
On March 20 2014 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
so your scum team is lurker 1,2,3 and 4 then?


correct!

why is that an issue? we are in fact playing tlmafia right?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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