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On March 22 2014 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless:
Do you think we should lynch Djo or GT on D2?
What happens if we lynch GT and he flips town/mafia?
What happens if we lynchd Djo and he flips town/mafia?
If I had to pick it'd be GT based on Vivax's flip.
I have not really considered what happens beyond that because I'd rather flip HF before either of them.
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if djo is town it matches with what i thnk, if he's scum i have to reconsider what went on with his speculation about calling you "bad" during coag and then his "what if GT and I are both town etc". Which I do not watnt o deal with right now because i currently think he's town/
I can believe that GT is scum based on your case. I can also just as easily say he's town and his actions make sense. His flip means i need to look more closely at VE and possibly reconsider HF depending on town/scum
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Why do you need to consider VE? What changes?
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these are my reads
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plz do this 1min answer stuff so i know you are legit and have not checked 100 filters before answering.
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On March 22 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gigglytummy Y U no big rant on VE? No big rant on VE because VE's night has put a kink in him being mafia.
I call him out, because he hasn't read my filter while voting, because he's misrepresenting what I said/what I was talking about, and for town sentiment on Vivax when he doesn't appear to be following thread and never points to anything in particular.
People like this, VE moves up the suspect ladder. Regardless of alignment, there's now more pressure on him.
He interacts with you a little, with Palmar a decent bit, during the night, but his only interaction with me is basically to continue sniping at the same points he made before. When I direct him to the pages scooby doo is relevant to, and my comment is relevant to, he appears not to have read up on them, not gone and looked, to basically be in the same spot he was in before.
I am not sure that I have played with mafia VE, but I don't believe that mafia VE is so cool as to talk more with other folks than myself, and when talking to myself, to basically just ignore that he's misrepresenting what I've done, even as pressure was greater on him than before. His continued misrepresentation reads less malignant and more "VE wasn't around and doesn't know what was happening and is making incorrect statements and not updating them because he's just not focused."
I checked recent games, and he's been lynched early as town for essentially not participating/being focused in a couple. Gives me pause. It's not a towntell, because VE may just be less focused on mafia right now, regardless of alignment, and so he's just uninvolved regardless of his role PM. But it's enough, combined with the way he kept going at me about the same thing, to make me less scummy on him.
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Just in case I'm vigged...
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On March 22 2014 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you need to consider VE? What changes?
if GT flips town i need to consider VE a lot more than if he flips scum.
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On March 22 2014 05:01 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you need to consider VE? What changes? if GT flips town i need to consider VE a lot more than if he flips scum.
The question is why.
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On March 22 2014 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 05:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 22 2014 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you need to consider VE? What changes? if GT flips town i need to consider VE a lot more than if he flips scum. The question is why.
because i have VE as more town than scum and GT flippung town means he actually believes his reads instead of making things up, thus I should take his "opinion" (as opposed to lies) into consideration.
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On March 22 2014 04:59 Giggletummy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gigglytummy Y U no big rant on VE? No big rant on VE because VE's night has put a kink in him being mafia. I call him out, because he hasn't read my filter while voting, because he's misrepresenting what I said/what I was talking about, and for town sentiment on Vivax when he doesn't appear to be following thread and never points to anything in particular. People like this, VE moves up the suspect ladder. Regardless of alignment, there's now more pressure on him. He interacts with you a little, with Palmar a decent bit, during the night, but his only interaction with me is basically to continue sniping at the same points he made before. When I direct him to the pages scooby doo is relevant to, and my comment is relevant to, he appears not to have read up on them, not gone and looked, to basically be in the same spot he was in before. I am not sure that I have played with mafia VE, but I don't believe that mafia VE is so cool as to talk more with other folks than myself, and when talking to myself, to basically just ignore that he's misrepresenting what I've done, even as pressure was greater on him than before. His continued misrepresentation reads less malignant and more "VE wasn't around and doesn't know what was happening and is making incorrect statements and not updating them because he's just not focused." I checked recent games, and he's been lynched early as town for essentially not participating/being focused in a couple. Gives me pause. It's not a towntell, because VE may just be less focused on mafia right now, regardless of alignment, and so he's just uninvolved regardless of his role PM. But it's enough, combined with the way he kept going at me about the same thing, to make me less scummy on him.
the reasons you just gave for finding VE less scummy after the night don't have anything to do with the reasons you initially found him scummy for. liek you found him scummy for misrepresenting you, for a weird read on vivax, etc. but having a town meta of being a lazy shouldn't absolve those things right?
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On March 22 2014 04:56 thrawn2112 wrote:these are my reads
can we get a brief synopsis? You know, in words.
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On March 22 2014 05:05 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 04:59 Giggletummy wrote:On March 22 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gigglytummy Y U no big rant on VE? No big rant on VE because VE's night has put a kink in him being mafia. I call him out, because he hasn't read my filter while voting, because he's misrepresenting what I said/what I was talking about, and for town sentiment on Vivax when he doesn't appear to be following thread and never points to anything in particular. People like this, VE moves up the suspect ladder. Regardless of alignment, there's now more pressure on him. He interacts with you a little, with Palmar a decent bit, during the night, but his only interaction with me is basically to continue sniping at the same points he made before. When I direct him to the pages scooby doo is relevant to, and my comment is relevant to, he appears not to have read up on them, not gone and looked, to basically be in the same spot he was in before. I am not sure that I have played with mafia VE, but I don't believe that mafia VE is so cool as to talk more with other folks than myself, and when talking to myself, to basically just ignore that he's misrepresenting what I've done, even as pressure was greater on him than before. His continued misrepresentation reads less malignant and more "VE wasn't around and doesn't know what was happening and is making incorrect statements and not updating them because he's just not focused." I checked recent games, and he's been lynched early as town for essentially not participating/being focused in a couple. Gives me pause. It's not a towntell, because VE may just be less focused on mafia right now, regardless of alignment, and so he's just uninvolved regardless of his role PM. But it's enough, combined with the way he kept going at me about the same thing, to make me less scummy on him. the reasons you just gave for finding VE less scummy after the night don't have anything to do with the reasons you initially found him scummy for. liek you found him scummy for misrepresenting you, for a weird read on vivax, etc. but having a town meta of being a lazy shouldn't absolve those things right? No. Lemme find posts to make it clearer
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greens are rayn koshi palm hf dp tehpoofter, blacks are ve slam, orange is oats, reds are djo and ggt up in his rooftop.
I only have 2 as red, unless I count oats, so i'm pretty sure i've made a major misread somewhere. or slam is mafia and is playing the asshole strategy
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asshoel strategy is to post completely in line with your unreadable meta and then compeltely dissappear knowing that town will only lynch you out of desperation
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On March 22 2014 05:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
asshoel strategy is to post completely in line with your unreadable meta and then compeltely dissappear knowing that town will only lynch you out of desperation
do you think he knew rayn was lying to him about votecounts and deadlines?
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Is the deadline in 15imn? I need to do something.
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EPT
