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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 05:32 GMT
#840
LSB is like mafia kushmasta but without the option to turn him off by correclty identifying him is mafia, even when LSB is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 05:37 GMT
#842
Yeah you can be right. atm i find it quite impossible but i agree it might be possible they miscommunicated.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 05:41 GMT
#843
austin says lots of stuff that says nothing. Most of his posts are discussing the setup and he only says "roles might not work like they are supposed to in OP so the plan is bad".

There is no reason to waste more than 1 post saying this if he believes this. Rest of his filter is crap.
The problem is his filter is always crap when he is town, but at least he talks about people and not the setup, so highly likely mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:15 GMT
#867
I don't care what people pick. All i want to do in this game is lynch LSB when someone takes an unaccounted shot and he can't find mafia because of it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:22 GMT
#868
But i think gumshoe are most likely to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:26 GMT
#870
EBWOP: gumshoe and austin

gumshoe for what i said and austin because his reason for shitting on the plan was to cast fear on roles because "they might not be what is in the OP". Well let's see. If scum pick Detective that does not suddenly change to like INJUSTICE VIGILANTE BULLETPROOF AMERICA WITH 3 ROLECHEKCS, but most likely to something like Framer. Roles that are important to this plan are neutral and help either alignments, + KP, and roleblockers and jailer, there is no way those roles will change to anything.

So his suggestion is surreal and it does not have any real basis other than "you are bad, guys guys look at this this is so bad" without thinking about it at all. Mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:29 GMT
#871
On March 06 2014 18:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn you played with mafia gumshoe before, are you saying this looks similar? I remember how he said what he does as mafia (whilst not in any game) and it doesn't look similar to what he's doing here.

He is good when he wants to be. Usually as town gumshoe just doesn't care or does not play properly for some reason. In this game he has - as i said - put effort into his posts and it shows he has thinking about them. Yet he ends up in really terrible conclusions which contradict each other. That's why he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:39 GMT
#877
On March 06 2014 18:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
But Rayn, I remember from voice the policy "lynch Gumshoe whenever he's making sense". Are you saying his forum mafia game is the opposite?

I don't remember pushing that policy. I have played with gumshoe as mafia and i know what he is capable of and what kind of thinking he is capable of if he wants to and this is nowhere near it while it looks like he is putting a lot of thought in his posts. It's simple and has nothing to do with voice games.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:44 GMT
#879
It's not a meta read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 09:46 GMT
#880
My meta read is that gumshoe is capable of really good play as either alignment. If someone can play really well as mafia (which usually requires a lot of thought and "sneakiness") then they can play good aswell as town when they put thought into the game. gumshoe fits into this category.

gumshoe has put thought into the game, check.
gumshoe makes retarded conclusions, check.
mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:02 GMT
#883
I am telling you gumshoe is really really really mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:07 GMT
#884
gumshoe says he doesn't trust me with a gun - but i wasn't going to pick a gun
gumshoe says but rayn has a plan for UBU - that only works if one of my scummates picks a gun
gumshoe says Palmar is town - the only other person who could be my scummate in the scenario gumshoe brings up is Oats
gumshoe says nothing about Oats - scum

On top of that his story changes mid-questioning from "don't give him KP" -> "he has some other plan" which is not even possible unless in his mind Oats is my scumbuddy which he never brings up. Other than that he has no reasons to assume i am mafia and his meta-read suggests i am town:
gumshoe says rayn is aggressive and leads the town when town needs leading - well guess what i came up with a fucking awesome plan so of course i would lead the town with the plan I MYSELF came up with

so in conclusion he should be calling me town and not scary.
/dunked
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:12 GMT
#886
The difference in gumshoe/austin <-> LSB is that LSB at least tries to explain why the plan could possibly fail, gumshoe and austin just say words like "bad" and "scary" and "i don't trust you" without giving any concrete reasons why something is bad.

While LSB's explanations are really bad i think he believes in them and genuinely thinks the plan is bad. While he is wrong that does not make him mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:17 GMT
#887
Artanis first of all you don't need to trust me and you doing so like this is fishy. Second, who do YOU think is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#896
On March 06 2014 19:19 prplhz wrote:
@raynpelikoneet

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't all of your scum reads so far been people (LSB, me, austinmcc, gumshoe) who didn't immediately realize your plan was like totally awesome, and they have been scum because they didn't immediately realize your plan was like totally awesome?

No i pressured those people into talking why they disagreed with it by calling them mafia. After that I have called people who disagree but don't have a reasonable explanation for it mafia. Like gumshoe and austin. LSB tried, that's enough, like i said i think he believes in what he says. You have looked much better after the start.

And the reason why i called you mafia was not because you disagreed with me, the reason was because you didn't realize why LSB's posting was shit and i would think you had realized it. Apparently you just missed his posts and the discussion about it and for now i will buy it.

Btw i am still not sold on Xatalos being town and he is on the scummier side of the posters but for now there is no room for being mafia until at least one of gumshoe/austin/yamato starts shitting townie bricks.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:36 GMT
#899
On March 06 2014 14:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i'll keep track of this:
1. Palmar [1,1]
2. Oatsmaster [3,1]
3. prplhz [6,4]
4. Hopeless1der
5. Artanis[Xp] [11,11]
6. marvellosity [7,2]
7. yamato77
8. austinmcc
9. Xatalos
10. gumshoe [2,?]
11. LSB [2,1]
12. raynpelikoneet [2,1]


Something is really interesting here.
Please give your pick numbers asap.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#900
Xatalos has picked [2, x]
I think he needs to die.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#903
oh fuck no, he didn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#904
On March 06 2014 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 14:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i'll keep track of this:
1. Palmar [1,1]
2. Oatsmaster [3,1]
3. prplhz [6,4]
4. Hopeless1der [8-10, x]
5. Artanis[Xp] [11,11]
6. marvellosity [7,2]
7. yamato77 [7, x]
8. austinmcc [y, y]
9. Xatalos [y, y]
10. gumshoe [2,?]
11. LSB [2,1]
12. raynpelikoneet [2,1]


Something is really interesting here.
Please give your pick numbers asap.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#906
Okay so it's confrimed Xatalos did not pick [5,4] in the beginning.
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