On March 04 2014 08:27 austinmcc wrote: Rawr. I'm Chief Heap Big Scum.
Gimme something to tryhard about, and I absolutely will. For now I'm confirmed disliker of giant walls of yellow and the RNG suggestions that pop up in 50% games.
On March 04 2014 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote: I expect exactly what's happening from all the players who have posted regardless of their alignment, barring players I may not have played with before. Robik are you always so eager to get right into the game immediately?
Yes. I'm also really eager to lynch mafia. I also make reads off of really minuscule things that no one else cares about. I'm not losing this game like I lost the last one. Also, if anyone gets modkilled for lack of activity, I'll be very very very upset.
DO IT THEN.
Why you read me fail? Explain your red read, so I can explain it's failure and give you peace to use your wisdom to do as you desire.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
On March 04 2014 12:45 boonetown wrote: I was just about to say the same about you, Haha, I am worried tho, cause Im not aware of how your forum games and video games differ. I think it might take me a little while to figure out how to read into the allignment based on posts,
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
That's not why she is scummy
"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?
Also. Are you robik?
It's the subtle contradiction of her post. She should either commit to one or the other. She's making excuses already. Boone is an incredible player when she's town...There are two people I know of that she would hold back on and they're not playing this game, so this random "I want to play with VE so I'm not gonna vote on him even though I believe in whats-his-faces RNG" seems incongruent to me
On March 04 2014 14:53 Killing wrote: The only person I like right now is austin. Although it`s super easy to put in these softball questions of why do you have this read and such, I actually like him for being one of the only ones to do so.
On March 04 2014 14:53 Killing wrote: The only person I like right now is austin. Although it`s super easy to put in these softball questions of why do you have this read and such, I actually like him for being one of the only ones to do so.
SUP SON
WHAT I MESS U UP ON?
The fuck did I just read
It's CHUPAZI for "what did I do such that I am scummy?"
On March 04 2014 14:53 Killing wrote: The only person I like right now is austin. Although it`s super easy to put in these softball questions of why do you have this read and such, I actually like him for being one of the only ones to do so.
SUP SON
WHAT I MESS U UP ON?
The fuck did I just read
It's CHUPAZI for "what did I do such that I am scummy?"
I don't have a read on you atm sorry mang come back later
Sson I am not entirely sane
And you must fear, because this Alakaslam, when he is scum? You cannot lynch him
You see his team of 6, many are bussing him- everyone knows he is scummiest player in game
(I had an irl meltdown during that game, so I was modkilled- but I would have been lynched. Sometime when you feel masochistic read the scum qt it is hilarious. Don't now as it would waste your time, it has literally thousands of posts in it)
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum
Textbook scum
so, you're attempting to prove 2 things right now from what i can gather, 1) you have no idea what 'text book scum' means AND 2) you don't know how to read people that you've never played with.
I was actually attempting to be funny with my first post while at the same time letting everyone know I wasn't down to just lynch someone based on RNG. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia.
CAN'T YOU READ THE TONE OF MY VOICE!?
I have Aspergers Syndrome, I wouldn't be able to in voice mafia.
I am unable to read ppl I am familiar with too but you are doing textbook scum stuff. If I scum read you you are really being scummy because I rarely push anyone.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum
Textbook scum
so, you're attempting to prove 2 things right now from what i can gather, 1) you have no idea what 'text book scum' means AND 2) you don't know how to read people that you've never played with.
I was actually attempting to be funny with my first post while at the same time letting everyone know I wasn't down to just lynch someone based on RNG. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia.
CAN'T YOU READ THE TONE OF MY VOICE!?
I have Aspergers Syndrome, I wouldn't be able to in voice mafia.
I am unable to read ppl I am familiar with too but you are doing textbook scum stuff. If I scum read you you are really being scummy because I rarely push anyone.
I smell a bus if you Dinnae kusplained GGTeMpLaR
Okay so, if you're unable to read people you're unfamiliar with, you shouldn't jump to conclusions this early on, imo. What you view as "text book scum" is not true in this case, so you might want to rethink what the parameters of text book scum means to you. I am trying to figure out how this game works, while also learning to read people based on words that have no tone or inflection behind them, I might not be great at this game right away, but if you keep me around a little longer, i'll be able to help town once i get a little more comfortable.
Last time I called someone textbook scum, it happened. But then last time I was scum, I gone done challenged Palmar in the QT
Nope marv snap read me and died. Didn't even get to be last scum alive, I had been all "PALMAR I HAVE WIFOM COMING I SHALT MISLYNCH THEE AT LYLO SHALL NOT BE NK THIS GAME OH NO"
Didn't work out like that.
And first time I was blue I acted just like you so hey, Dinnae worry I spishhis but right now you got this VisceraEyes, he gonna die before you. So scumhunt the stuff up and go for it but guess what?
You are defending against my playstyle and not my arguments
WHAT WAS HER NAME?!? DORIS. LAURA. CHLOE. DORA. MINNIE, MOE, JACK!!! Oh, uh, it couldn't have been moe- IZS I CAN'T STAND I TELL YOU! THIS IS DRIVING ME SANE!
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: Top 2 people I would not kill today
Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.
Alakaslam - His willingness to share his thought process and adapt based on others thoughts is super fucking towny. He is mixing having fun trying to troll with actively trying to find mafia. This conversation in particular is towny because instead of bandwagoning an idea posted by a probably, likely, maybe, town robik, he makes sure to give the reasons why he agrees.
GGtemp - (I am directing this directly to Templar himself) I am having a hard time finding a world in which you are town here. Maybe it's because this is a different medium than we are used to playing mafia together on, but you seem very off, withdrawn, trolly and the way you are voting boggles my mind. I have a much easier time in games when I can read you town and trust you, because in late game you're awesome. The way you are throwing around reads with no explaination, and jumping on the boonetown bandwagon causes me to believe you are not town. You know better than to vote so fast on something so small.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?
Also. Are you robik?
It's the subtle contradiction of her post. She should either commit to one or the other. She's making excuses already. Boone is an incredible player when she's town...There are two people I know of that she would hold back on and they're not playing this game, so this random "I want to play with VE so I'm not gonna vote on him even though I believe in whats-his-faces RNG" seems incongruent to me
Ok this is a better point.
Oh yeah and see vote thread if anyone is here.
The town reads on Robik make me pause. Robik has come into this game basically knowing only myself, ggtemp and killing. All 3 of us are relatively new to forum mafia and he seems to quick to jump on each one of us. His reasoning for doing so isn't necessarily wrong and he's likely town as stated before, but I would not put him in my town circle right now. These seem to be the "easy" lynches that he is pushing. One of the more pressing issues in my mind is that I am in a mason group with rayn and austin. not much has been said there but i fear that if there is a mafia in there, the game having this information is much more important if mafia also have this information. im outting our mason group because i think there is a better chance that mafia manipulates me in this mason group if i don't bring it to this thread, and i feel there is a higher chance that this mason group will negatively impact town, so I will probably not be using it as much as I had originally thought I would.
That being said, I think Austin is the mafia in the group. He's talked about keeping the group secret for now, while Rayn has openly asked if we should out it. I also feel like so little has actually been said in the group that Austin band-wagoning on me in this thread just further supports my read on him.
I would also like to point out, that my opening post (and obviously we all see this differently) was my way of letting you all know that I wasn't a sheep, I wasn't about to just vote someone based on RNG, that I'd like to actually play this game with the people that are in it (including V.E). I feel like I'm going to be the easy lynch at this point because a) no one knows my play style and b) I'm unfamailiar with how to post, length, content and what not to say. If taking a stance on RNG is scummy, then I don't know how to prove I'm town to you.
In my opinion a random lynch so early on in a game can't be beneficial for town. I know that you guys like to lynch people, and I'm all for it... but let's lynch the right people.
Mason claim fits with what I voiced earlier.
##will Unvote in that thread
See this VE! The DBZ hath skill so I respect the skill of the VE. And GGTeMpLaR's cologne smells of bus because he wans me lynch town bro
On March 05 2014 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote: Why do you care if people see you as a sheep? Why are you concerned about looking like a sheep if you're not even planning on sheeping anyway?
Sheeping is great if you're town, just make it smart sheeping.
You assholes posted like 10 pages while I was not here so I'm catching up.
No kidding, i've just skimmed in a Korean restaurant
Leave for 10 minutes and I'm suspicious awesome.
Tonight I'll address those but for now, revealing the QT is not particularly scummy of Boone.
I must thank thee GGTeMpLaR, hast found my next OMGUS.net portrait
Irregardless I told ye all, fear the deep Svengali! But give unto me questions and I shall provide answers. And throw before me slander, that I may assuage the concerns of my fellows with wisdom through honesty.
On March 05 2014 08:35 austinmcc wrote: Is there a particular differentiation you make between townslam's trolling and scum slam?
I checked Aperture 2, and he was relatively trolly there as well at the start, couldn't really identify anything in particular that might push me one way or the other on just his D1.
You must trust the Chupazi. No I haven't seen scum slam play like he has this game. But I guess I could take a look at Aperture 2 if you feel strongly about it.
I don't feel terribly strongly about it, but it's not a bad thing to look at. I was scum with him that game so I don't have a sense of how his posts felt, since I already knew his alignment.
On March 05 2014 03:45 austinmcc wrote: AFK 40ish.
SLAM
Mind meld with boone. Is her revealing our QT townie or scummy and why?
Pick DI or oats or Killing please, and give your thoughts on them, BUT at least 60% of the words you use to give your thoughts must start with the letter R.
Why are you not RNG lynching?
GRACK
You summoned Oats, he appeared and has posted a good bit. What are your thoughts on Oats?
You disliked rayn's post on me, can you speak about his other posts as well, an overall read on rayn? If you'd like, you can do so using at least 50% words that start with the letter T.
Who are the three MOST NULL people in this game right now?
Oh
Well.
I was RNG lynching, then thought I had found scum.
...
In fact, I am about to read the op. Somehow I feel I jumped to "mason!" Conclusions that aren't justified.
This is a semi closed setup featuring the flavor of Issac Asimov's Foundation series.
There are 13 players with 10 town vs 3 mafia. Town wins when all non-town are eliminated. Mafia wins when all non-mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening. We will be using plurality lynching; you become the lynch target if you have more votes than anyone else. If there is a tie then whoever reaches X number of votes first gets lynched.
Nights are silent.
Mafia KP is delivered factionally.
At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group. At the start of the next day, 3 randomly selected players will join a new Foundation group and the old Foundation quicktopic will be locked. You are not allowed to share links. Nights are silent, but you but still talk with your mason group in the quicktopic. You may only use the provided quicktopics to talk to your mason buddies.
You are (flavor name), a town (role goes here). (Role description here)
If you request a fake claim I will provide you with a safe flavor name and nothing else. As this is a closed setup, you are required to fill in the 2nd and 3rd blanks yourself. Please remember that you are not allowed to quote PMs from hosts or even pretend to do so.
On March 04 2014 19:21 Palmar wrote: I like your plan.
The one thing that stood out in your post is your thoughts on ggtemplar. I have no reason to believe anything he says until he starts explaining his thought process. These new kids all keep talking about "I'm reading you scum" or "I'm reading you town" but there seems to be little behind those reads except some vague meta feels.
The point is that's what they do in video mafia. Draw reactions, fake drawing reactions etc. IT's really easy to attack them but it's not alignment indicative yet. They have their own way of getting reads and/or starting the game and it's easy to call them out for it but it does not achieve anything because they would do that as either alignment.
You just get a shitfest which ends up in TL guys accusing them and the other way around. At least Robik was able to "adjust" to forum mafia play a bit after the game start so that's what i am expecting from him and from other people. I know GGtemplar has played many games here and he seems the most "off" from the group because that's not what he usually does.
I actually want to ask GGtemplar why did you vote for the people you voted for?
On March 05 2014 11:15 austinmcc wrote: grack, have you ever played with scum slam? You said your townreads hadn't been wrong yet, but is that because he's just always been town with you?
On March 05 2014 07:42 austinmcc wrote: For those who have played with Boonetown, any thoughts on how she responds to pressure/frustration? Is she a tooth and nail fighter or more apt to just fold? (As either/both alignment)
boone, what is the MOST IMPORTANT THING that has happened but everyone is missing/downplaying?
Heh
Sson you scum? You do not fear SVENGALI...
Nay. And I have said to fear the epic SVENGALI of Egoslam!
Nay, thou'rt not attacking my points once again, art attacking my meta- or, actually, Grack's.
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.
Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity?
Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine.
Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him?
Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT.
Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea.
On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote: It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.
Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me.
Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it?
Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia?
I think? I'm not really sure even.
Look at the vote thread rayn, does not that stuff look suspicious to you?
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.
Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity?
Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine.
Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him?
Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT.
Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea.
On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote: It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.
Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me.
Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it?
Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia?
I think? I'm not really sure even.
Look at the vote thread rayn, does not that stuff look suspicious to you?
I don't knowwhat do you mean? Elaborate please. Top 2 vote leaders are bad votes and i don't even know why there are votes on them.
Also: ##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
Look at all the unvotes, including mine, and who they voted
On March 05 2014 13:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Slam i am confused. Are you voting for boone because you think she outed the scum QT?
No that whole spiel was idiocy.
THAT was what was insulting to her. Notice I don't say a word during that whole discussion other than stuff that wasn't caught up. I was "pfft scum are svengali ing people hard to believe this stuff"
Read my filter and you will see I believed her and thought she was mason claiming. I concluded we had no other blues as triad mason is really strong, then I went wait that's fishy and just read my filter
On March 04 2014 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah that's mainly why i asked. I can now see better what you were most likely thinking because i didn't find many incoherent people, especially because i like Oats and Slam this game. Oats had a really good point on Austin imo.
We lynch Grackaroni if he decides to troll, no fucking trolling because when he tries to play he is actually good or readable if he is mafia.
I am looking forward to robik/boone/killing interactions, i WOULD think they can read each other to some extent, and rob seems to be doing a good job there (also might add GGtemplar here). Rob however knows how he played in the last game so i would not draw any definite conclusions about it yet. I wanna see how that all unfolds.
justanothertownie is decent. Also posts a decent amount as either alignment and i think he is quite readable. I'd put him into same category as non-troll!Grack.
Dandel we just figure out if he is scum or town and kill him if he is scum.
what do I find most appalling about this post? Hint: we fought about it last game.
Also, the situation regarding boone has changed. I think she might be town now
I am looking forward to robik/boone/killing interactions, i WOULD think they can read each other to some extent, and rob seems to be doing a good job there (also might add GGtemplar here). Rob however knows how he played in the last game so i would not draw any definite conclusions about it yet. I wanna see how that all unfolds.
right?
if so, folks are allowed to change their minds. THere is line between this and wishy washy
Well here is where the hypocrisy speech of motivation comes in.
Boone, if you are town, best thing to do is either defend, or, if your position is indefensible, start forming scum reads and put them out there. Because if you are town, your flip will confirm everything you said- which has a huge impact if you had suspicions. There is even slang associated with this phenomena; "the dead hate Alakaslam" etc.
On March 05 2014 18:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Since i see no reason why we should be even talking in our mason group i'll post this all here:
austinmcc: trolls, says him and rayn are bad at reading each other and will most likely accuse each other when both town
austinmcc: possibly mafia here, unlikely rayn/boone both mafia. Says we want possibly bring this QT into the thread at some point. Is happy to keep it as a secret for now.
austinmcc asks if boone has played here before, says hasn't been paying attention lately (i assume this is for games played on TL)
raynpelikoneet: Hi austin! Why no pictures in thread? Also any early reads?
boonetown hello!!!
austinmcc Says pictures is bad idea. no early reads, doesn't want to lynch Palmar on D1 unless he is inactive. Would kill Slam/Grack atm in order to get more legible thread but not because they are scummy.
raynpelikoneet Did you read my posts in thread? Especially the second one?
raynpelikoneet I have a question austin. Do you think it's a good idea to use this QT yet?
boonetown Says she posted mason group in htread, does not feel like group is helping town atm. She thinks rayn is town. Thinks austin is not helping the town atm.
austinmcc Thinks it's a good idea to use QT. Doesn't have an idea how to use it for now, just a nice discussion tool.
austinmcc bitches about boone outing the group. Thinks it was a bad idea because it does not help the town to know about the group. Asks boone why reveal.
austinmcc Says JAT not scum if anyone in here is scum. Says JAT feels genuine in his frustration and questions about the reveal.
austinmcc Asks boone(?) do answer in here what she thinks town gains from being told about the QT. And maybe what scum gains and why town gains more than scum.
boonetown Because she needs town to trust her, and this seemed like a great way to do so. Says all of town is against her and they are wrong. Says she can be very helpful and useful further on. She is frustrated because game is hard and because people misreepresent her. says she is looking scummier by the second and she know this... asks what to do. Says she did what she thought was the best thing to do.
austinmcc tells boone to scumhunt and do things she thinks is best for the town. Asks boone the "why" question again.
austinmcc asks Boone about if she thinks Palmar is still as townie as before.
boonetown Says Palmar needs to post more to maintain his towniness, has no reason to take him off her list. Also thinks Rob is town and Templar mafia.
austinmcc Asks if everyone going after templar bother her.
boonetown Not really. Asks about austin's vote on her. (i don't understand what she's talking about - something like austin didn't follow the thread sentiment but voted for her and that's contradicting)
boonetown clarifies that austin did not vote for her but also didn't defend her.
austinmcc says the situations are different. says GG is being called mafia for doing nothing and boone is called mafia for doing things people find scummy.
austinmcc explains why boone is being voted for. asks boone about her opinion on templar.
austinmcc Rephrases; Does boone think austin should have same reaction to boone/templar being called scum.
boonetown defends herself based on "if the two of us or all of us in this group are town then this is useful group" and that's why austin should have been interested in knowing why people jumped on her.
boonetown doesn't understand why people call her scum, asks austin to elaborate.
austinmcc Posted about liking VE, not wanting to rng yet. Posted some responses to people which templar has not done. In comparsion boone is called scum for her actions, templar because he hasn't done anything.
austinmcc Says he would like to know the alignment's of everyone in this QT. Clarifies what something might tell about someone (really fucking useless post i don't get anything about it).
raynpelikoneet austin i have no idea what you are doing right now..
raynpelikoneet There is literally no fucking reason to use this QT until there is a confirmed town in here. That's not possible on D1, so don't use this thing, post your shit in thread.
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote: Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar GGTemplar JAT Dandelion
Neutral
Grack Oats VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote: As I said before, in video mafia, GGtemplar only goes into his crazy plans/theories when he's town. It's possible that he has done that in forum mafia but I've never seen it from him in forum mafia. Even after that post, everything I've read from him I could read in his town voice. I guess I can kind of read him differently that how I can everyone else in this game.
Rayn
You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.
Alakazam
He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.
Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
I don't get it either killing.
I always try to play the way of CHUPAZI every time, my goal is null usually
On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote: I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.
For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.
Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.
On March 05 2014 14:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Boone, why do you think that Video meta and forum meta is the same? Also you gave this Palmar read earlier.
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.
Where did Palmar draw reads from the whole random lynch debacle?
Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
I'm currently going through his filter because I wanted to make sure what I wrote still stands. Now that I am focusing just on him and not his posts in whole with the entire thread, he seems to be telling people what to do, explaining how to read people as town, asking for reads, explaining why he does or doesn't agree with someone and their reasoning. I think he wouldnt be my top town anymore, but I still think he's town nonetheless.
which felt like something I'd never hear her say as town in video mafia. It felt like a really scummy way to respond to early pressure, almost like she had a guilty conscience. A town would probably just be like "IDGAF", not get all emotional about it and blame the game/environment with
I am playing differently because I am not entirely sure how to convey town through text, and my opinion stands and is proving more true by the second, they don't know how to read me, and currently neither do you.
If nothing else, I clarified with thrawn that the wording on the OP is actually 100% correct. So amongst other reasons I want to policy lynch her for roleclaiming on day 1.
This can be fixed if the people in my QT wanted it fixed, they have let me know they don't. If you are going to lynch me for letting town know about a QT that's happening, you're an idiot.
Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today.
OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out. -------------------
This quoting this is getting ridiculous, i'm switching it up.
@Rayn - I think there is scum in our QT becuase I don't think I would be so lucky as to be put in a group with all town, that being said, if it is all town I will feel really stupid when this is all said and done. Why would I feel stupid? Because I outted it, and it could have been used much more effectively. I base my reads on you and austin while reading the QT and the thread itself, not just one or the other. Not just solely because I think there is a mafia in there, but by the way people have played and reacted. That is why I think Austin might be scum.
I just got to the part where you outted the entire QT, I think that's interesting... not sure how to take that.
Here's what I think will happen, you guys are going to lynch me, see that I'm town and start lynching through my QT group which could be good if there is a Mafia in there, but I don't think that there are two, and thus I think you will waste lynches on 2 towns for one mafia. Worst case scenario you lynch all three of us and we all flip town.
@Dandel - I unvoted on GGtemp after his post, I thought that was pretty clear but if it wasn't then I'm sorry. I feel like that is the templar i know and can read better. I'm not saying he's town by any means, but his post made me rethink his play, and therefor my vote was removed.
I AM GOING TO USE CAPS RIGHT NOW, BECUASE IT MEANS IM SERIOUS. GET YOUR VOTES OFF ME, PLEASE. I AM NOT THE BEST VOTE AND IF YOU ARE VOTING ME FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF POLICY LYNCH, THAT'S FUCKING MORONIC. YOU DO NOT POLICY LYNCH ME, I DID NOTHING WRONG, I HAVENT CLAIMED ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUTTING A MASON GROUP I THOUGHT WOULD HELP TOWN, IF THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.
I am being pushed on very hard, and people are jumping all over it. Reads are flip flopping because Palmar is trying to bury me, the question is, is he doing it as town or as mafia?
@ robert & joey (killing) - I'm sorry I'm not playing in a way that makes it easy for you to read me as town. You both seem to have the same excuse for reading me as mafia, and while it's slightly valid you have to ask yourself why i might be playing that way.
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Here comes the shitty part. It took me an hour to go through all the fucking pages, catch up on everything and now i have about 5 hours left. The votes probably won't be removed, so I'm just going to claim and give my reads. I am medic. I was super fucking nervous coming into this game as it was, and getting this role made it worse. I am getting policy lynched anyway because people are asshats, so I might as well go out with a bang.
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I am town and therefor everything I say has been from a towns perspective. I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.
Now, here are my lists;
TOWN: Killing Robik Rayn
Leaning town after my reread: VE
SCUM: Austin Alakaslam
Leaning scum after my reread: Palmar Oats Templar
GLHF **as a side note, I wanted to get this information out as quickly as I could, so I'm not rereading it or fixing anything. ignore my keytardedness if there is any**
Welcome to forum mafia. I was often just like this. I used to play live mafia at UCLA Bruin Woods family camp, and I was stron town and hated rolling mafia. I always would start to snort when a plan was going through or when someone accused a fellow townie of something. Whereas I confirmed myself pretty fast but like forum Maia couldn't read worth HIJOLE.
Can't do a lot here, and must learn by practice. I think. Likely you don't have the same disorder I do so there it is.
Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
On March 06 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.
Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
I didn't say I'd be good at this game, and from what I can tell, i'm the exact opposite. Do you have any more insults you'd like to hurl my way before I peace out?
uhhhh why are you calling people scum for thinking you are scum?
are you serious right now? can you just go find a corner, sit in it for 5 minutes, and come back when you're ready to be a big boy.
The boonetown knows the way of this epic Blazinghand
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote: Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?
Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.
@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?
Complains about deflecting off austin
Complains about too much talking about austin
I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.
I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.
dunno what you're trying to do here.
I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them.
So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you.
You are aware that lists are literally the easiest shit in the history of mafia to fake, yes?
But okay maybe you'll stop being salty if I make one. Or at least reasonable. I'm not asking for much.
Not the day1 lynch: Me Palmar rayn* grack Oats JAT The medic claim
Would lynch day1: Killing Alakaslam Robik* austin* ggtemplar*
*mite be scum
I really think you're wrong on Robert, but I would he okay with lynching Austin or Alaka today
K
Mislynch helps mafia a lot more than NK. Why would you give them a mislynch just to remove me?
On March 06 2014 03:36 austinmcc wrote: Shoop da woop.
Grack looks better after chat last night. Either he's a lazy scum troll who doesn't actually go read slam and talk honestly about slam, or he's a townie who sometimes stops trolling to play, did so, and I think accurately spoke to him maybe not needing to be as sure of slam as he is.
Rayn, talk to me about VE? You said he was townier on your list than Palmar had him on Palmar's list. Por que?
To Palmar re: Hosts hiding information / second QT / etc. - + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2014 18:13 Palmar wrote: VE claims to be in the foundation chat.
I clarified with thrawn that his wording is CORRECT. There should only be one foundation chat at time. So whatever it is that you/austin/her are in, is not the foundation chat. One of you has a role, or the host decided to add random hidden mechanics to the game for lulz. I'm inclined to think it's the former.
So, I'm killing boonetown for roleclaiming. I thought I was gonna kill austin today for misrepresenting my position, but this kill is better.
On February 26 2014 08:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Setup
This is a semi closed setup featuring the flavor of Issac Asimov's Foundation series.
.....
At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group. At the start of the next day, 3 randomly selected players will join a new Foundation group and the old Foundation quicktopic will be locked. You are not allowed to share links. Nights are silent, but you but still talk with your mason group in the quicktopic. You may only use the provided quicktopics to talk to your mason buddies.
...
That's all the info you get!
Semi-closed and "that's all the info you get" indicate that this isn't "random hidden mechanics for lulz", we were explicitly told that we weren't aware of everything ever.
VE worries me, don't want to lynch right now. I can understand finding SOME things he's done townie, I cannot understand loving his post on Boone that he did however many hours ago, and that being the thing that REALLY makes your mind up on him. I'm fine with Palmar calling him town, there were some specifics that Palmar mentioned. Interested in Rayn's townread on him.
Oats is super town. He is seeing some things that townies should be seeing, and doing townie things with them. Specifically, this post: + Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.
Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
Actually read post from Boone. Actually read Palmar's stuff. Decided the two didn't match up. I agree with him that they didn't, and that Palmar what Boone says.
I could lynch Slam. Despite being upbeat/having fun, which seems to be the only thing people have said that indicates his townieness, he wasn't ... sad trolling when I've seen him be mafia. STILL lots of wacky stuff, it's not like he posts only videos of sad clowns and decomposing animals when mafia.
Speaking on killing looks opportunistic, but oh well. His thoughts on Boone - + Show Spoiler +
Boone's first post was also obviously super scummy. I might actually be leaning her neutral because she does get hyper defensive when she's town but I wouldn't classify her as so. My first post was also super fucking awkward lol.
Boone's first past was OBVIOUSLY SUPER SCUMMY. But he MIGHT lean neutral on her, because she is hyper defensive as town but he wouldn't classify her as such (which should mean...she's scummy? If she's hyper defensive as town, isn't hyper defensive here, then...she's mafia? Yes?)
On March 05 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
Question isn't for me but answering anyways. Everyone is playing very differently except for Robik. He usually just goes super aggro on his reads and is always too certain of them. I wouldn't say how he has acted has been alignment indicative so far as he does it as both town and mafia. I get a better read on him as the first day goes on. He shows himself at the end of day 1 imo. Templar is probably atm the scummiest of all the DM players for me. He rarely gives out his reads with providing extensive reasoning.
So what do you think of Boon calling Robik's play different from video and using that to read him when everyone is playing different anyway unless she thinks all the DM people are scum.
Who else is scum?
Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam
The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved.
Boone is mafia....por que? He likes a read of hers, he dislikes her other reads, therefore she looks....worse. Nothing EXPLICITLY to say she's mafia, just that she looks worse because of her reads.
Contrast this with his Alakaslam read. Alakaslam is mafia because when GGTemplar votes him, Slam's post quality goes way down. A thing happens, Slam responds in a way that Killing finds scummy, therefore slam is scum. Or his GGtemplar read, where GGtemplar makes undeserved reads and never substantiates. In contrast to two people who did things that Killing finds scummy, Boone looks worse just for...making reads Killing disagrees with.
So far, her opening post is OBVIOUSLY SUPER SCUMMY, but she might be town maybe, but she looks worse because of her reads. There's nothing concrete.
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote: Robik is now my top town. He's playing his exact same town game where he makes read on what seemingly is insignificant. He likes to believe that he found some proof even though it usually means and amounts to nothing. Other than that, his reasoning on Dandel is kinda bad. He's probably just tunneling on him as I'm not sure if anything Dandel has done has been that scummy. Voting GGtemplar for obvious reasons. Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.
##vote GGtemplar
GGtemplar gets the vote. Read on Robik, again, some specifics about what he likes/doesn't like about Robik. Nothing on Boone at all.'
The bit that has already been pointed out:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote: Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar GGTemplar JAT Dandelion
Neutral
Grack Oats VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
Boone is his strongest mafia, but this isn't her town or mafia play. WHY? She can normally look very townie to him, but hasn't. Outting the QT pushed her towards scummy.....WHY? He hasn't mentioned this before. It was discussed, I don't see WHY it was scummy of her to do this.
When he explains himself later:
On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote: Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
He hates the QT play. Except it was "overall ok for town," but the "revealing part seemed very awkward."
Wat.
Outing the QT pushed her towards scummy (see his previous post)
Now outing the QT was overall ok for town, but was "revealed awkwardly"
Boone was also his STRONGEST SCUM READ, someone he's been consistently scummy-ish on, talking about as scum despite not voting or being specific, ALL DAY. But he wouldn't kill her today. She's just weird.
Again. Boone has been on his scum team all day. For reasons that are, IF ever explained, immediately contradicted (scummy for QT reveal, which was good for town, and can be explained in multiple ways) (scummy for her reads in his first couple posts, but for the entire rest of the day he forgets her reads, doesn't mention her reads, just talks about the QT or how she maybe is or isn't playing like her town/scum self).
Slam and killing my current top two. Currently wary of Slam/boone/VE/killing. Wary of rayn, but for right now I also have a nagging thought that he's town for something I ain't gonna discuss.
Lol
This one fears the hard bus cha-cha-train of Boone, killing, and Alakaslam and te DBZ gets honorable mention
On March 06 2014 03:59 austinmcc wrote: oats, what useful stuff has alak posted? Like can you grab 2-3 posts of his that were useful? I want to peer into your soul here, because I've found him to not be useless, but ... I don't think slam has particularly pushed town forward or anything.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
That's not why she is scummy
"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"
On March 05 2014 18:20 Alakaslam wrote: Well here is where the hypocrisy speech of motivation comes in.
Boone, if you are town, best thing to do is either defend, or, if your position is indefensible, start forming scum reads and put them out there. Because if you are town, your flip will confirm everything you said- which has a huge impact if you had suspicions. There is even slang associated with this phenomena; "the dead hate Alakaslam" etc.
I think these are all pretty ok posts, although there is somewhat less than I expected and all focusing around boone.
On March 06 2014 04:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Voting Killing. As misguided as Temp is, that last post reads as pretty townie, so Killing it is. Rob's post on his contradiction regarding Boone is the strongest evidence in the thread imo, and everyone should have a look.
On March 06 2014 02:55 boonetown wrote: Why the fuck aren't you guys wanting to lynch Austin? Everyone is deflecting off of him, I really think he's the lynch today. Why am I the only one?
Someone, tell me what he's done that was towny.
@Dandel - You have NOT been more useful this game. Infact early on when Austin was mentioned a few times, he was the only person you spoke about. Which looking back on, is hella weird. You have been very trolly, you are saying stupid shit, asking for people to tell you it's okay to be an idiot and a troll. I don't see how this helps town in any way shape or form, but I'm currently halfway through your filter.. so maybe the second half is better than the first?
Complains about deflecting off austin
Complains about too much talking about austin
I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
People are deflecting off of him, and in the first 3 pages of your filter the only person you talked about was austin until your shit storm with robert happened... so me that's a little weird. can you take your head out of your ass for a moment. we understand you are attempting to compensate and project asshole so that people take you seriously, but enough is enough. cut the shit.
I would only it really genuinely doesn't make any sense what you're saying and even if it did, there's nothing I could do about it.
dunno what you're trying to do here.
I am trying to figure out your alignment. If you want me to see you as town, stop being an asshole and show me youre town. All I have seen in your filter is you trolling or being rude to people for the most part. There are less than a handful of posts from you that I could see you even trying to play the game, but you're still trolling in them.
So, how about you give me your town and mafia lists. Please and thank you.
You are aware that lists are literally the easiest shit in the history of mafia to fake, yes?
But okay maybe you'll stop being salty if I make one. Or at least reasonable. I'm not asking for much.
Not the day1 lynch: Me Palmar rayn* grack Oats JAT The medic claim
Would lynch day1: Killing Alakaslam Robik* austin* ggtemplar*
*mite be scum
I really think you're wrong on Robert, but I would he okay with lynching Austin or Alaka today
K
Mislynch helps mafia a lot more than NK. Why would you give them a mislynch just to remove me?
Oh hi there, this has changed. I'm pretty sure you're town and the lynch for today should be VE, Palmar, Austin is 3rd on my list.
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote: I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.
On March 06 2014 06:00 boonetown wrote: I'm so fucking confused this game, and i hate you all. My reads are literally changing by the minute and I hate it, I feel like a flip flopping fool right now.
I dont think Killing or templar are mafia.
Did you read his last post alignment indicative at all?
On March 06 2014 06:48 austinmcc wrote: Like, he essentially says:
the posts people hate are terrible
i was making shit up. I was compensating for normally knowing exactly what's going on (how does one do this as town) and was overcompensating with garbage
I don't know what's going on but wish I did
What I've done deserves a lynch
None of my reads are good
I'M GOING TO START PLAYING DIFFERENTLY NOW, SINCE I'VE RECOGNIZED WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON (where. When did he recognize this? What does he think is going on? He didn't speak to that AT ALL and still hasn't. How does he know what's going on?)
I'm starting over, scrapping basically all my reads (which ones. Why keep the others?)
I'll PROBABLY go reread MOST of the game again
I see a promise of townie actions, both at the time of the post (i've scrapped some reads and understand the game) and in the future. I don't see any explanation why some reads were bad, how he understands the game, etc. I don't see any followup.
I see that he RECOGNIZES the things he did were scummy. Saying so doesn't make him town or scum. It makes him a player who has done scummy stuff and sees that. The specific things he's apologizing for are also, imo, not...things you can just go "oopsies" on and be townie.
Thuu is a reference to "The Jungle Book" (The real one, not the Disney cartoon) in which Mowgli is an adult, and comes across an ancient cobra guarding a treasure trove.
After some banter, Mowgli says the cobra is nothing to be feared, to his companion's shock and dismay (can't remember who goes in with him) and walks in fearlessly, laughing at the bites of the cobra that he then named "Thuu", Hindi for "dry"- as he no longer contained any poison.
I voted Austinmcc because 1: I SWEAR HE IS SUM WITH TUNNEL OF THUU! 2: I WAS GONE! I HAD PHONE CALLS COME UP AND THEN THIS SIIILENT NIIIGHT, HOOOOOLLY NIIIGHT, ALLL IS C- I CANT STAND IT I TELL YOU! THIS IS DRIVING ME SANE!
Grack and Killing both made a concerted effort to push VE amidst the void that was created once the other lynch targets started looking town. I do believe Grack and Killing to be mafia, both for this push, and for their play individually. Grack trolled most of the day and his only contribution was “lynch VE”. He is obviously mafia.
Killing is similar in that he did nothing early, which shows a lack of initiative, a trait that mafia display early on because of their information advantage and overall reactionary nature. His reads, as pointed out by many, are highly inconsistent and suspect.
I believe the other three DM players (boone, Robik, GG) to all be town. They have put in more effort than anyone else this game thus far. They all seem reasonable.
I also believe Rayn, JAT, Dandel, and Oats to be town.. I lean toward Austin being town as well, but I cannot confirm this to be the case.
Palmar is an enigma. His lynching of VE is not outside the realm of possibility of town Palmar’s play, but I do not like that he “quit” on town halfway through the day. At least pressure him to play the game again, do not ignore him.
Slam is literally the most unreadable player I’ve ever seen. His voting suggests that he’s mafia, given that he voted both boone (who I think is town) and VE, who we all know was town.
On March 07 2014 08:16 justanothertownie wrote: I believe the other three DM players (boone, Robik, GG) to all be town. They have put in more effort than anyone else this game thus far. They all seem reasonable.
This Hari guy seems to read a different game than this.
I haven't even read foundation and I know this is part of the plot
Lol it is like Thrawn took us all to the Cliffhouse in La Quinta and here we are guzzling Pinot Grigio like juice and wondering why we are all drunk and taste nothing
On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote: Alright, over the last 24 hours I have gone over certain posts (reevaluated VE's filter now that we know he's town) and started to change reads again. In the off chance that I am not killed, I'm hoping this can be somewhat useful. I might change my mind throughout this post, as I'm not entirely sure yet how long it will be. I'm also going to try and use as many quotes as I can to explain my thought process... here we go.
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
Because there isn't support for the RNG.
I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.
Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread.
The bolded part at first, felt to me like he was trying to look for something in templar to show us templar was mafia, now that i know VE is town, this is way more valid of a point.
On March 05 2014 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote: @austin Alak is fearless in his trolling, Grack not so fearless. Between the two I'd say Grack has a higher chance of flipping scum based on what's been said, Alak more likely to flip town. I don't think they both scum, but it's possible they both town.
I just wanted to make this a point because this is helpful for me. I had/have Alaka as town and Grack for me was a totally null read. I'll filter him after this to see if I can get an actual read on him.
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.
VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play.
I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie.
I am going to take what he says about Templar more highly than my own read on him at this point. I think templar probably plays his forum mafia and video mafia very different and knowing that myself, killing and robik are in this game, he might play up his paranoia to get us to read him as town. If that's the case, screw you templar.
After he wrote this, Templar did his big ol' thread of pictures and reads on the DM people. IMO, if templar is mafia, the other DM people are likely all town. Why do I say this? If templar was mafia with someone from DM he wouldn't go out of his way to only read us as a priority over other players with little about anyone else, because we are well aware that he's played forum mafia before. He should be able to help us with reading a few of the TL players.
On March 06 2014 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm also willing to kill Palmar for not knowing for a fact that I'm town at this point. Players like Grack/Oats are like..meh. But Palmar should know.
I want to believe this is true so much. I had Palmar down as a scum read but he seemed to "i dont care about this anymore, goodbye" toward the end, that it worried me he was just a pissed off towny. Can anyone explain to me if he should have been reading VE as town this game or not, do they typically have good reads on each other? Furthermore, does Palmar usually refuse to play the game when he's frustrated?
On March 06 2014 04:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Voting Killing. As misguided as Temp is, that last post reads as pretty townie, so Killing it is. Rob's post on his contradiction regarding Boone is the strongest evidence in the thread imo, and everyone should have a look.
This is now about Killing VS Templar, and I think it's something we should def look into.
On March 06 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Because at the time of Killing's post on boone there is a LOT of suspicion on boone. Not just a lot of people, but players that people are likely to listen to or sheep. And Killing comes in and says, in the same post, "I have no read on Boone" and "Boone is my top scumread". This is the very definition of wishy-washiness. He distances himself from the lynch by saying "Yeah well I don't know one way or the other" but adds his support to the wagon by putting her as his SOLE mafia read.
At the end of the day, I had thought that Killing was town because in my opinion and through my experience with him in video mafia, he is the most self absorbed, cocky and confident player I know. He's very hard pressed to admit when he's wrong, or when he's made a bad read, or that he's played poorly. Why? Cause he thinks he's the king of mafia. So for him to openly admit that no only his reads were wrong and he wanted to revise his entire game because of it, he admitted he was playing badly and didn't understand. He also said that he made up his reads, I have never heard him say that... ever. So either he's fucking me over because it's what he loves to do, or he's town. Either way, I hate him and would probably vote on him just so that he's not a question mark for me anymore.
On March 04 2014 17:56 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll do at the very least one of those things tomorrow.
Please do. This game doesn't have a ton of quality posters and more than it's fair share of trolls. You know this and you know that if you're town we absolutely need you to contribute to the game. If you disappear or blend in with little opinions throughout the early game, I _will_ policy lynch you.
This is the first time (of quite a few) where you mention a 'policy lynch' I am curious to know how normal this is for you. Why do you feel like policy lynching someone based on your paramaters, over scum hunting, is better for town?
On March 04 2014 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I got shot in my newbie game Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit. Wtf palmar.
I'm just faster than you.
Who are your top 2 town reads and why. If you don't have town reads, then please just force the answers and give whatever little reasoning you can.
This made me LOL, because if ever I am asked to give reads when I dont have any, and I force them... people lynch the fuck out of me. So, this was interesting.
On March 05 2014 01:35 Palmar wrote: I don't really do the reads thing. I usually have a few people I like and a few I dislike, then I wait and see how the day develops. I'll respond in more detail tonight.
On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote: I'll parse the last 3 pages later.
Here you are, pushing things until later... meanwhile you keep accusing people of trolling and being useless. If your game consists of you waiting to do anything while complaining that others are doing the same, this game isn't going to really go anywhere. Also, stop confirming yourself as town, you're doing the opposite imo.
On March 05 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
Question isn't for me but answering anyways. Everyone is playing very differently except for Robik. He usually just goes super aggro on his reads and is always too certain of them. I wouldn't say how he has acted has been alignment indicative so far as he does it as both town and mafia. I get a better read on him as the first day goes on. He shows himself at the end of day 1 imo. Templar is probably atm the scummiest of all the DM players for me. He rarely gives out his reads with providing extensive reasoning.
So what do you think of Boon calling Robik's play different from video and using that to read him when everyone is playing different anyway unless she thinks all the DM people are scum.
Who else is scum?
Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam
The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved.
What was weird about it? You can't just say shit like that without quoting and explaining.
GGtemplar lynch at the time this post is made is a lurker lynch. I'm always slightly suspicious of people actively pushing lurker lynches in early day 1, but I guess a few people are doing it and they aren't all scum.
Why are you against a lurker lynch, but all for policy and RNG lynches?
I like your read on Oats, I think he's pretty town, though I think it's a stretch to say if he's mafia you'll actively try to lose so he can win. This seems likes it's going to be a long game, and therefor tons of time to determine his allignment and adjust reads. I think you might be the best troll we have right now.
On March 05 2014 17:16 Palmar wrote: I think we should lynch boone
I don't.
If nothing else, I clarified with thrawn that the wording on the OP is actually 100% correct. So amongst other reasons I want to policy lynch her for roleclaiming on day 1.
There's that policy lynch again... also, claiming to be in a QT is claiming a role? I was unaware.
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Okay I read through it, and honestly, I don't see him as a top town but he's certainly consistant and willing to give his opinion. I don't think he's pushing a town objective tho, so I'm still leaning him scummy...
There is about an hour left before the town awakens and I was only able to filter through two people (work, life, etc) and if I'm alive I will slowly filter through others in the next 48 hours because it was really helpful once I realized how to do it.
That being said, killing you have had 24 hours to "renew" your game, give me something good or I cannot read you the same as I do in video mafia.
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Now I have just finished replying to a few posts since the day started, I'm going to do what rayn asked me to do about austins post in the QT. Might take a while, it's a bit of a gongshow of a post. Also, if my shit ^^^^ up there makes no sense, ask and i'll try to clarify.
On March 08 2014 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote: You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.
I'VE BEEN PUSHING PEOPLE THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO FUCKING VOTE DANDELION TODAY. HE'S PROLLY JUST A BAD PLAYER WHO RANDED TOWN. LIKE WTF ARE YOU EVEN SAYING. I want to lynch Joey today. I think Joey is mafia. I've been saying this for 2 days now. It's the first thing I said. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID DANDELION...but like he's too fucking ASEFNOASDIFNASODFINASDOIFNASD;FNI!!!!! he's pushing my fucking buttons cause he has nothing better to do with his fucking life than come into games and purposefully troll and annoy and irritate. THAT is why I want one of us dead. Like honestly, if I get mislynched this game, I won't even give 2 shits cause I'm THAT annoyed with this game.
ROBIK
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On March 08 2014 04:18 boonetown wrote: so, if vigi shot austin, or someone that is alive, they should out it so that people can get off my ass. also, we would have another confirmed town in the vigi.
now that i think about it, what would mafia shoot austin, purely to dodge a medic save?
THEY WOULDN'T. That's why I was rereading Austin until this fucking shitstorm came through like a fucking Miley Cyrus chlamydia infested wrecking ball.
Also, you should out who you saved before any vigi outs with who he shot so that you can't be like "oh, well, that's who i saved"
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum. I was wishy washy about it in GSL, but I'm more certain of it now. The reason being is that they need to feign some sort of smile, laughter, joviality.
He is willing to clear Dandelion for the interaction with me and says that Dandelion has been more towny and provided more content when this is definitely a fallacy...at least the latter part should be a fallacy in anyone's eyes that's actually paying attention.
Also, it seems to me that he's willing to clear Dandelion off the meta that people have been clearning Dandelion for, however my game should read the same as how it read in GSL, where he knows I was town, yet he's unwilling to give me any credit for it and I think that's pretty scummy (the fact that he won't even consider giving me town points for it)
Palmar
He voted on a confirmed town late after swapping off of someone that I believe to be mafia. He blatantly admitted that his rationale for voting VE was incorrect today. It seems like he's trying too hard to be like "oh hey, i was wrong and this is why i was wrong." It just seemed like a lackluster justification and did not read genuine to me. Austin (confirmed town) had suspicions of Palmar and Austin is dead. Reading pages 1 and 2 of the austin filter, I can see what Austin was saying with regards to Palmar. Palmar called out Austin for questioning my reads and then backing off of me, saying that I didn't really answer Austin's questions. I think that I _DID_ answer Austin's questions, so it doesn't make sense to me why Palmar kept pressuring Austin the way he did. Potentially trying to push a mislynch? Maybe.
Which reminds me of another thing about Rayn.
Rayn asked me to address some question. I felt that I had answered it and he kept repeating that I hadn't. I think that he's halfheartedly reading the thread and is just missing things and this is scummy behavior.
I should be ultra scum with Rayn as I poste nearly 100
On March 08 2014 05:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Like seriously though, I was rethinking it over last night as to why I liked Slam so much as town and I couldn't remember. Ever since his early pressure on boone, slam hasn't done anything but troll.
Ton of people townread him because he called out "textbook scum" (which was like the easiest read in the world at the time to make). It sort of just snowballed to a general feeling that "slam is town".
Slam do something.
I am.
@JaT I had work, my paycheck will be fat, tenderfull and nice!
On March 08 2014 06:46 IAmRobik wrote: I'll start off by saying that I don't understand over 1/2 of his posts on pg 1 of his filter, and if I recall correctly, this continues throughout the day. That's what I meant by he's trolling and it's easy to troll as mafia cause it looks like you're doing something useful when you're not.
On March 04 2014 08:27 austinmcc wrote: Rawr. I'm Chief Heap Big Scum.
Gimme something to tryhard about, and I absolutely will. For now I'm confirmed disliker of giant walls of yellow and the RNG suggestions that pop up in 50% games.
Well
This Alakaslam likes to roll scum.
Does he go "pfft" as scum?
He agrees with me on the Boone thing, which, if boone is mafia, I would give slam town points for this.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum
Textbook scum
Apparently, I mistook what he thought she was scummy for. No matter, if she flips scum, mad town poitns for slam
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
That's not why she is scummy
"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"
That is why she is scummy.
This is pretty towny...he reevaluates boone based off of the QT claim. It's always good to be reevaluating:
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: Top 2 people I would not kill today
Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.
Alakaslam - His willingness to share his thought process and adapt based on others thoughts is super fucking towny. He is mixing having fun trying to troll with actively trying to find mafia. This conversation in particular is towny because instead of bandwagoning an idea posted by a probably, likely, maybe, town robik, he makes sure to give the reasons why he agrees.
GGtemp - (I am directing this directly to Templar himself) I am having a hard time finding a world in which you are town here. Maybe it's because this is a different medium than we are used to playing mafia together on, but you seem very off, withdrawn, trolly and the way you are voting boggles my mind. I have a much easier time in games when I can read you town and trust you, because in late game you're awesome. The way you are throwing around reads with no explaination, and jumping on the boonetown bandwagon causes me to believe you are not town. You know better than to vote so fast on something so small.
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote: Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.
Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?
Also. Are you robik?
It's the subtle contradiction of her post. She should either commit to one or the other. She's making excuses already. Boone is an incredible player when she's town...There are two people I know of that she would hold back on and they're not playing this game, so this random "I want to play with VE so I'm not gonna vote on him even though I believe in whats-his-faces RNG" seems incongruent to me
Ok this is a better point.
Oh yeah and see vote thread if anyone is here.
The town reads on Robik make me pause. Robik has come into this game basically knowing only myself, ggtemp and killing. All 3 of us are relatively new to forum mafia and he seems to quick to jump on each one of us. His reasoning for doing so isn't necessarily wrong and he's likely town as stated before, but I would not put him in my town circle right now. These seem to be the "easy" lynches that he is pushing. One of the more pressing issues in my mind is that I am in a mason group with rayn and austin. not much has been said there but i fear that if there is a mafia in there, the game having this information is much more important if mafia also have this information. im outting our mason group because i think there is a better chance that mafia manipulates me in this mason group if i don't bring it to this thread, and i feel there is a higher chance that this mason group will negatively impact town, so I will probably not be using it as much as I had originally thought I would.
That being said, I think Austin is the mafia in the group. He's talked about keeping the group secret for now, while Rayn has openly asked if we should out it. I also feel like so little has actually been said in the group that Austin band-wagoning on me in this thread just further supports my read on him.
I would also like to point out, that my opening post (and obviously we all see this differently) was my way of letting you all know that I wasn't a sheep, I wasn't about to just vote someone based on RNG, that I'd like to actually play this game with the people that are in it (including V.E). I feel like I'm going to be the easy lynch at this point because a) no one knows my play style and b) I'm unfamailiar with how to post, length, content and what not to say. If taking a stance on RNG is scummy, then I don't know how to prove I'm town to you.
In my opinion a random lynch so early on in a game can't be beneficial for town. I know that you guys like to lynch people, and I'm all for it... but let's lynch the right people.
Mason claim fits with what I voiced earlier.
##will Unvote in that thread
See this VE! The DBZ hath skill so I respect the skill of the VE. And GGTeMpLaR's cologne smells of bus because he wans me lynch town bro
He goes on to re-vote Boone based off of the setup mentioning only 1 QT.
Seems like he genuinely believes boone's claim ... more town points:
On March 06 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote: Boone's claim could be fabricated. She's smart enough to do it. Just saying. Not voting her today though.
No, actually, it couldn't have been.
And sorry for essentially outing you Boone. I tend to rea blues as scum anyway.
Soooo, after rereading, I'm getting a town-read from Slam. He trolls a lot, but most of what he says seems like it's coming from a town mindset. I think he would be a good player, with much skill if he didn't troll in 90% of his posts and actually made them legible
On March 08 2014 12:50 IAmRobik wrote: hey slam. I'm tired, but I'm hear. I read you as town, as I expressed in a recap post of your filter. Is there anything that you'd like me to do? (Please say it without the chipazi stuff or whatnot, cause you totally lose me in the posts that you do that and I tend to skim through them instead of read them cause I don't understand them.)
On March 08 2014 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: lol. Grack is highly suspicious for trying to lynch Alak, a well known player who plays vastly different town and scum games. Hes town this game.
On March 08 2014 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: lol. Grack is highly suspicious for trying to lynch Alak, a well known player who plays vastly different town and scum games. Hes town this game.
Can rayn/palmar/JAT/dandel/Grack confirm this?
The time capsule said he's impossible to read
Well HARI SELDON has been right for a long time but he is starting to be wrong now
Thrawn knows
He has seen, he has been town and known the Alakaslam to be not town
On March 09 2014 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have my vote on the person i want to lynch in case you have not noticed.
And you really think scumrobik would put himself in the spotlight like that? He could never have thought that he would win if the lynch is between him and dandel. On top of that he attacked you for some very weak reasons (yeah, the act in itself is scummy but who does that when he knows that you will tear it to shreds later on?). This is suicidal scumplay.
On March 09 2014 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have my vote on the person i want to lynch in case you have not noticed.
And you really think scumrobik would put himself in the spotlight like that? He could never have thought that he would win if the lynch is between him and dandel. On top of that he attacked you for some very weak reasons (yeah, the act in itself is scummy but who does that when he knows that you will tear it to shreds later on?). This is suicidal scumplay.
Which makes it WIFOM which makes it a smart move.
Not if he could just avoid the whole thing altogether. Good that you are here slam - you think we should lynch robik today? Why?
Yes probably, because of RAYNPELIKONEET's CASE!!!
You all seem to forget he caught robik in a slip up that he still hasn't answered shortly before HIJOLE CHINGA LE SEMANA RAAAAA
What is up with robikus, he goes HIJOLE CHINGA TODOS MADRES ÁNDALE PUES PINCHI VATO and then he is like "In other news, Alakaslam is town because he misread Boone earlier day one. The Dow jones industrial average fell sharply today after a week of heavy trading. This business commentary is brought to you by EF100. When EF100 talks, people listen."
What is this
lol Slam, why are you enjoying this game so much? What's different?
On March 10 2014 08:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Dandel conveniently left his vote on Robik the entire day and Grack jumped on the caboose of the Killing train.
Slam voting Robik there as scum with Killing would take some CAHONES
No, it wouldn't. Joining a wagon this late would not net him any towncred. If slam was scum he would be happy to create WIFOM this way. But the message implies a green check on him.
This is correct, would have been ultimate svengali! Would have worked on GGT, anyway...
Nah I have an ear infection now, and last night I was driving a flatbed and ran out of diesel.
On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote: btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy
On March 10 2014 09:11 Palmar wrote: it isn't me/grack/killing based on hairy pushing us it hardly is dandel based on him disagreeing with sheldon on robik yesterday it's not oats/ve/austin town heroes not slam, if the check is real
so... robik, templar, boone, rayn, you...
Do you believe the flavor is all just flavor or not? Why are you wasting town time with this?
On March 10 2014 14:01 IAmRobik wrote: Ummm...it's difficult to answer this question because I made it perfectly clear that if Joey is maf then it is likely that Palmar is with him.
I could also, maybe, see a team of Boone/Rayn but like, idk. Boone is scummy for being alive after claiming medic. The fact that Hari is in the game with mason chats makes it unlikely that there are other town roles. Rayn seemed reluctant to vote Joey, but did so eventually and made some posts that kinda looked good. Dandelion looks kinda bad for voting VE over killing, but not as bad as palmar does. I think the remaining mafia is within that group of 4. (Palmar/Boone/Rayn/Dandelion)
Hari is cop, not sure if it's someone in game OR someone that is only observing it, i don't see someone in game being cop and not outting at this point so i'm very confused. I have no idea, this game was more than I should have taken on methinks. In any event, I am the medic. I should be dead in almost every sense of the word. Mafia are either killing people they think wouldn't be medic saves so that I look bad, or they are stupid for keeping me alive. Either way, I am going to be a question mark for everyone until I am either lynched or killed at night. I want to make it perfectly clear that in saying that, I am not saying to lynch me, I want to be alive, I want to stay in the game and I would love to potentially get a medic save.
I have no way of proving my role to you, but I am medic.
HARI is Thrawn by definition. And Thrawn said at the start of the game that it is all WIFOM pure flavor. This is largely the basis or my vote on Palmar.
Can you convince me palmar is town? Or will you vote him?
At least trying to find and upload the image from my phone was possible but it was still really hard. Stupid iOS7 came right when I learned how to do it really well in the old browser.
On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote: btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy
On March 10 2014 11:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote: ##Vote: Palmar
See, I need you guys to elaborate on what reasons you have behind those in order to explain why you're wrong. There is literally no downside as town to expand upon your reasoning, as if I am mafia I will be unable to explain why I'm not.
Because you are pushing town to do stuff you know is useless and they continue to fall for it
On March 10 2014 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also understand nobody will even notice my case. Nobody will pay any attention to the fact that nobody noticed my case on D1, nobody will pay any attention to the fact that templar didn't answer my case on D1, but guess what;
That's why i don't give a fuck, nobody is playing mafia in this game. So do your guessing game then because i am sick of repeating same things over and over again. Please, by all means continue doing jack shit. But don't expect me to play the game then.
Go have a smoke son, reason I haven't caught up is I'm reading them and about to sheep
I have noticed a smoke is sometimes like a snickers for some ppl
On March 10 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote: btw, 1000 townie points for whoever comes up with a reasonable solution to the first paragraph from that hairy sheldon guy
##Vote: Palmar
On March 10 2014 11:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote: ##Vote: Palmar
See, I need you guys to elaborate on what reasons you have behind those in order to explain why you're wrong. There is literally no downside as town to expand upon your reasoning, as if I am mafia I will be unable to explain why I'm not.
Because you are pushing town to do stuff you know is useless and they continue to fall for it
Next week. Ppl know, u gonna have to stop calling me slam. That is some other dude. In fact we are going to hydra somewhere soon, school just been Alakaslammin him.
Dasrite, u read me son. I hast invite slam to TL mafia.
On March 10 2014 22:28 Palmar wrote: oh and then he has a new list of scum
VE Dandelion Killing Austin
and he voted you at some point.
so 9 scum reads and counting. And slam too of course.
In fact, everyone is scum in templarworld.
this is the world that scares me, his paranoia this game early on led me to believe he was town, now it's just kinda cray cray and seems forced and pushy.
I haven't been paranoid this game
you still haven't cited an example of paranoia
now you're acknowledging stupid posts that are the literal definition of "logical fallacy"
the way you have been voting, ten unvoting and calling everyone scum is semi-paranoid templar. but as i stated before, the fact that you haven't even thought about WHY i'm alive other than to say i shouldnt be and that i should be lynched because of it, is not the templar i'm used to. so i dont know what to do with you.
it feels like you're slow-rolling your inevitable read-flip on me with forced/crappy reasons so you don't get flak for voting me
you completely ignored all the content in the exchange between myself and Rayn with regards to how you are reading me and I still don't know what Palmar is smoking
also you keep bringing up that silly "how come you didn't question I was left alive just to be a misslynch"
If you're alive that's literally the only reason you were kept alive
No one seems to be pushing you though and the only people even mentioning your medic claim besides myself are Robik/Palmar going like "yea we shouldn't lynch her now if she's still alive later we will deal with it then" so if you are medic you really need to start focusing on content and stop giving meta-reads on DM players because you're setting yourself up to be a misslynch at mylo
What, I still am. It just looks like baseless bs on both sides you are like "everything he says is not true" and he is like "GGTeMpLaR does scummy stuff" and doesn't back it up even with links, just nothing
U both sux to read it's like you both want me to read through day 1 and 2 again, by the time I finished that I woul have to drive again pfft to that
On March 11 2014 10:08 Dandel Ion wrote: Grack is basically a worse version of Palmar.
Can you explain this though.
Or give your thoughts on the entire interaction between Rayn/myself and what you think of Palmar's take on it.
I would ask you what you made of Slam's take on it too but he didn't even read it
On March 11 2014 10:18 Alakaslam wrote: What, I still am. It just looks like baseless bs on both sides you are like "everything he says is not true" and he is like "GGTeMpLaR does scummy stuff" and doesn't back it up even with links, just nothing
U both sux to read it's like you both want me to read through day 1 and 2 again, by the time I finished that I woul have to drive again pfft to that
You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides
On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote: I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia.
Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.
you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people.
i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to.
I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly.
I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break.
Then we have identified part of the problem if you are town. Don't play differently because you are a blue role. Always play like a VT.
you have NO idea how nervous I was to get medic in my first forum game. no fucking idea.
That clip is accurate down I the third party like "what is going on?" And everyone chills and adjust their overcoat and says "well we really should be moving on..."
On March 12 2014 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point of mafia game is that there is informed minority and uninformed majority. If you make the minority uninformed you should give some serious tools to fuck with the majority.
2 goons and a dude who can't communicate with his scumteam and can't decide on night kills is not fair.
Dude I would have gladly switched places.
Telepathy man I could let yam have a couple days and then WHAM- Svengali at lylo or when convenient.
And hard bussed someone, grab dat towncred with both hands
Heck I don't know why you ceded but if you weren't having a good time then I understand.
On March 12 2014 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: It was literally impossible to win when Grack got lynched. EDIT: When i could not incriminate Hari Seldon.
It is never impossible to win if you are able to fool folks.
That being said that can be really really really hard to the point that it may as well be impossible
With the mule role I would have been over the moon
"Zeal Palace" would be running through my head as I thought up all the SVENGALI I could pull, the town looks I could pull off by being uninformed and not deciding the NK, the way I would save messing with HARI SELDON, and heck- I know I couldn't have emulated my current play, but HARI was wrong! I could have used that for Svengali, I could have done exactly what I do as town- wrote him off entirely as host WIFOM, (heck that might have been towncred!) it seems so bamcis a role
I would probably looked TOO happy and devious and got lynched d1 XD
Like Yamato, let's say you do bamcis with SELDON up to this point. Then I (literally) SVENGALI your entire next post to say that today's lynch proves your BAMCIS COP CHECK POWERS
and I use that to say PALMAR REDCHECK. REPEAT PALMAR REDCHECK.
On March 12 2014 08:42 IAmRobik wrote: That's fucking weird that I'm the only one who read Austin town. What fucking mafia takes however fucking long it took him to write a long ass post on what someone (VE) could be mafia (the case wasn't even that good) after saying "i don't know why you want me to do this" insinuating that he was going to be voting Joey anyway.