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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 18:56 GMT
#1053
On March 06 2014 03:55 austinmcc wrote:
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On March 06 2014 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dandel, the fact about templar and his too many scumreads is that it's not like "i think these guys might be mafia", it's like he makes a case on everyone, which is retarded and i don't see why he would do that as town. The only reason i could see him do that is if he is mafia and he can later on say "see i found this guy scummy here for these reasons already".
How often do you employ this rule that making too many cases/having too many red reads = scummy?

always in a sense i presented it here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 19:17 GMT
#1078
trololol are all the scum not voting?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#1105
Okay now a serious question, is anyone entertaining the possibility of boone fakeclaiming here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 19:38 GMT
#1121
I kinda wanna lycnh VE for his bad post about boone's claim.
Also ggtemplar so vote stands.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 19:41 GMT
#1125
Her claim.

Who the fuck claims (as mafia) like "HERE ARE MY 1000 READS AND THE THINGS I HAVE and btw i am medic" instead of "I AM MEDIC DONT LYNCH ME PLZ also here might be something wifom"?!?!?!!?!?

really???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 19:53 GMT
#1136
VE what the hell?!?!?!?!?! "what does that claim mean in the context" seriously? What the hell? :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1167
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

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On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
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On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

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On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


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On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
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On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
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On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1168
No reasoning given. Fuck this dude is so scum!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:29 GMT
#1172
Again the "scumread" is buried somewhere in the middle. For fucks sake kill this scum already.
I am off, rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:30 GMT
#1176
On March 06 2014 05:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums

"Incapable of answering arguments" would describe you you fucking asshat! I adon't even feel bad saying this because you do that as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1180
l2play idiot
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1182
YOU HAVE NOT EVEN ANSWERED MY CASE YOU JUST MADE A RETARDED MISQUOTE POST.
die scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:34 GMT
#1189
I don't give a fuck if i get modkilled but for the sake of my sanity i go do something else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 20:34 GMT
#1190
just read posts and lynch mafia plz.
this guys should be called OMGUStemplar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:02 GMT
#1378
wow, that was a bad night kill. Or good, depending on where you look from.

##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
My work here is done.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:06 GMT
#1382
boone could you translate 98th post from the QT to the thread? I can't read austin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:06 GMT
#1383
and by that i mean i literally can't understand what he says
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:08 GMT
#1386
IAmRobik can you explain this:
Also, killing VE was so bad. I hope all mafia jumped onto VE there.

That's not what it looked like at the end of D1 based on your posts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:12 GMT
#1392
On March 06 2014 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

Cause I'm going to snipe vote the shit out of someone. Cause I'm town and I can do that type of shit and get away with it cause IDGAF about looking scummy (well I kinda do, but like, I'm super obv town so yah)

Well, do you care about winning?

I do. Very much so. Will vote how I feel is right. Want more information before I decide between VE/Joey.

On March 06 2014 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, my homie, are you going to be changing your vote or are you sold on Temp being scum? I would much prefer a lynch out of Joey (killing) or VE.


On March 06 2014 07:47 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 06 2014 07:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey was _NOT_ making up his reads. Stop it.

To clarify....JOEY'S READS HAVEN'T EVEN CHANGED SINCE HE'S REEVALUATED. READ WHAT HE SAID AND READ HOW HE WAS CONVINCED HE NEEDED TO REREAD AND REEVALUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SAID HE WAS SO WRONG AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS BEFORE.


Austin...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do me a favor and make a quick case against VE (even if you think Joey is more scummy)

All this doesn't really line up with "VE was a terrible lynch and Killing so good lynch!"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2014 23:17 GMT
#1400
Probably not form austin unless you suggest he had some secret role which was hidden on his flip.
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