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raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:38 GMT

#1837

On March 09 2014 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why did you say this then rayn?

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If you think robik is scum?

Because that was before he made some posts that were not only "RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE".

wtf, read the thread.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:40 GMT

#1838

Also it is a question to Palmar, it has nothing to do with if i think it's a policy lynch or not. Fuck you, you are trying to twist my argument into something that it isn't. I know Palmar, as town, loves to policy lynch a shit out of that kinda behavior. I was wondering why, in this case, he didn't want to do so.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:41 GMT

#1840

It is impossible to argue with you Oats because you don't think asingle bit when you read people's posts. You just see what you want to see. Or you are mafia. So if you are not mafia, please try to THINK FOR A LITTLE BIT why people post what they do.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:49 GMT

#1852

On March 09 2014 00:45 justanothertownie wrote:

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Not if he could just avoid the whole thing altogether. Good that you are here slam - you think we should lynch robik today? Why?

The point is he can't if he is mafia and can't reasonably answer the case.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:50 GMT

#1855

You said it yourself at some point. If the case is so bad why could robik just debunk it?
Why start a flamewar?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:51 GMT

#1856

couldn't

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:55 GMT

#1858

On March 09 2014 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:

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I know I said that and I still think the case itself is really good. Sorry, that I am trying to gather more information and am willing to consider different explanations than "he is mafia, gg".

Fair enough. That's reasonable.

I just happen to know from personal experience that's a perfectly valid mafia strategy when you get caught. I use it all the time against marv, when i am caught i just distract the town leaders for the rest of my time in the game because i can't answer the case. I've done it many times, and to me his behavior looks more likely to come from mafia and i can't find any reasoning why he would do that as town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 15:59 GMT

#1862

trololol oats

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 16:41 GMT

#1883

To answer Oats' "case":

On March 09 2014 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
(1): Throughout this whole game, I havent felt like Rayn really wanted to solve the game and thats one of my biggest problems with him.
Also contradictory.
[...]
(2): He doesnt try and convince anyone to vote for GGTemp here but just a while ago, he asked us to make a case/convince people on Grack if we wanted to move votes. Actions dont match his words.

and
[...]
(3): he totally drops this read in favor of lynching GGtemp, never really talks to Grack about lynch VE, the top propnent towards his lynch. Basically it doesnt look like he wants to find scum, just push people who look bad.

1) I have tried to solve the game. I have had clear reads and i have given reasoning for my reads. All game long.

2) This is not true (see (3) for more details). Also the situation here is completely different. Here we have 7,5 hours until lynch, there are 3 people who have voted and one real case. At the time you quoted my post we were ~24h into the game, you can't compare these situations because 24h before the deadline you don't need to necessarily push a lynch. I was waiting on other people to give their opinions, because as it has happened many times, if i am wrong on D1 people just sheep my case, we mislynch and there is no information to gain. At that time I wanted more opinions and there is nothing wrong/scummy in that.

3) Complete misrepresentation of my D1. I never dropped my read on GGtemplar. My vote ended up on him. That in itself proves you wrong. Also you said i did not push his lynch. That's not true. After boone claimed madic i made a huge fucking case on templar and every single one of my posts on D1 after that was pushing templar lynch forward. at the time i went to sleep (my last post)...

On March 06 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
just read posts and lynch mafia plz.
this guys should be called OMGUStemplar.

.. he was a vote leader tied with Killing.

Also you are saying "i am not trying to find scum, just pushing people who look bad". I don't know what you mean by "people who look bad". I push people whose actions do not make sense from town perspective. Of course scum "look bad" BECAUSE THAY ARE MAFIA! PEOPLE WHO LOOK BAD ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE MAFIA OATS!!! People who do not make sense are more likely to be mafia. seriously, do you even know what makes people mafia???

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 16:48 GMT

#1884

Oats this is a real question:
Did you even read my posts from D1 when you made that "case"?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 16:59 GMT

#1888

On March 09 2014 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok rayn, but you are really only pushing one lynch (yesterday it was templar - why is he not your lynch today btw?, today it is robik) and it doesn't seem like you are trying to figure anything out besides that. You aren't questioning people the way I would expect you to.

If robik continues what he is doing now, maybe shows some interest in scumhunting i am willing to consider someone else as a lynch, templar/Killing. The PYP game was much more interesting than this one on D1 and i had already made my case on who i believed to be mafia and i don't like repeating myself. I expect people to read my posts. I don't understand what you mean by "questioning people the way i would expect you to" so i can't really answer that.

On March 09 2014 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I literally mean 'look bad' there. Look bad could be lynchbait.
And it looks like GGtemp is town.
Why didnt you talk to Grack about VE?

Please Oats, never ever bring up the lynchbait argument when you are talking to me. I lynch people who are scummy, i don't give a fuck if they are lynchbaits as town or whatever, because lynchbaits can also be mafia. I just lynched Corazon in Survivor game, which you were in. He was scummy as fuck, you could argue he was a "lynchbait", i don't care. I lynch people who are scummy. I don't understand what i was supposed to talk to Grack about VE? I wanted to lynch templar, why would i talk about VE?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 08 2014 17:08 GMT

#1890

On March 09 2014 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because you said you also could lynch VE and Grack was the VE pusher. Wasnt there any kinda moment where you were, "so VE or GGtemp?".

You clearly dont get my lynchbait point, Im saying that you are finding shit that looks bad at first glance rather than finding shit that makes someone scum rather than bad town.

Green part: Based on one post, yes. ggtemplar made an equally bad post regarding the situation. VE gave an explanation to the post. templar didn't. templar was scummier than VE before that. wtf? No, there was no "VE or templar" moment, as i clearly said when i wrote "VOTE STANDS" in the post you quoted. I made it bold and all caps so you can't misrepresent it any more.
Red part: That's not true. Show me where i have done so, because i have not.