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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:30 GMT
#1496
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:31 GMT
#1497
EBWOP: that was to robik
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:32 GMT
#1498
And why the fuck you keep calling me out for "going after easy lynches" because you are super good player and obviously you can read me so well in your opinion, so you can't possibly be an easy lynch.

Can you make some real arguments if you think i am mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#1503
On March 07 2014 11:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?

It looked like Joey was going to get lynched and then there was a shady late push from Dandelion and Palmar. I mean, if Joey is town, then it doesn't matter too much, but if he's maf, the votes are very telling. No one cares about how the voting went down?

Of course i do. That's what i am trying to do here. I don't know Killing's alignment so i can't make conclusions based on assumptions he is town/mafia because they are nothing but WIFOM.

What i saw is that you did consider between VE/Killing, you didn't push either of the lynches, and now you are calling VE terrible lynch, which your posting at the end of D1 definitely does not back up. I am trying to figure out why you didn't push the lynch you thought was the best if - as you now claim - the other lynch was terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 09:58 GMT
#1514
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 10:07 GMT
#1516
On March 07 2014 19:03 Palmar wrote:
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On March 07 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?


His consistency in yelling at you that you're scum seems somewhat genuine. On a general note I think his stance is too controversial for him to be mafia.

Did you read the game i posted? His scumgame.. where he acts just like this, attacks people and not their arguments and calls everyone who calls him scum mafia.

Nevermind, i'll make a case tonight if people don't even bother to investigate anything themselves.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:04 GMT
#1528
JAT do you agree with the statement that in the end VE did not think ggtemplar is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:15 GMT
#1532
Yeah that's right. Fucking VE, why does he have to be so wishy-washy on everything. I hav no idea what he actually thought because after that he wants to shoot templar and the QT does not suggest he has a townread on him. Also he never commented on my case. ugh..

anyways i am still going to write the case tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:32 GMT
#1534
ehh... it's weird but i think he could do that either as town or mafia. I don't like him not wanting to lead and then saying he doesn't want me to lead either.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:33 GMT
#1535
He's like throwing it out there that he does not trust me (idk why because he never says why) and he doesn't offer a solution for a leader - like Dandel, you, etc... Seems uncharacteristic from Palmar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:34 GMT
#1536
And all this happens after he killed VE who is a possible leader..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:38 GMT
#1537
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:38 GMT
#1538
oops wrong thread. haha..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:46 GMT
#1541
Can you explain the "easy targets" part?
Other than that i agree.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 12:54 GMT
#1544
Have you ever been in a game where i am scum Palmar?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 13:05 GMT
#1548
On March 07 2014 21:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 05 2014 03:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Scummy:
Dandelion
Rayn
Temp

Before templar did anything. Once he did something he just dropped him because he knew the other newbies would see through it easily.
I'm easy because he can excuse lack of actual reason for me with the mod warning and never talk about me again (like he did what a surprise)
rayn is easy because I know it's super easy to call him scum (i kinda do it too and nothing happened because of it so i can first hand confirm how easy it is)


After that he sheeps someone on Killing (who I don't think I have to explain why he's an easy target) and just never lets go.


And that's it.

I generally don't like people bringing up the "easy targets" argument because "easy targets" can also be mafia, like kush and sidesprang/Slam in Default suspicion mafia. Someone being a lynchbait or easy target does not make them mafia, but to elaborate:

I agree on templar. However that might be to pressure him because they know each other from video mafia. I specifically agree on the part that he dropped him as a suspect because i don't think templar has done anything townie in this game and his play lines up with his scumplay.

I agree on you. If all the people who know you well enough and have played with you call you town some alarm bells should ring in his head, especially when he does not really have any argument on you other than "he calls me mafia".

I agree on myself too. I know i am an easy target to call scum and people are generally more suspicous of me when i am town than when i am mafia. There are very few people who actually know what makes me mafia and i can tell you if i was scum i would have taken far more control over the town especially considering the playerbase in this game. Again, he does not seem to have any real arguments why i am mafia, he just calls me mafia which is scummy.

On Killing i am not so sure. I totally get his point about the contradiction, but the thing is it's not only mafia that contradicts themself and to be honest what does mafia!Killing gain in calling boone not mafia and then calling her mafia? At least half of the town at that time thought boone was mafia and given Killing's conclusion (boone best lynch) why not just be consistent in his read? Of course it's possible that he jsut fucked up his thought process as scum in one post but that's not usually what mafia does because they are more careful in what they post. I have VERY RARELY seen mafia contradict themselves in single post like that. I don't understand why robik just decides Killing is mafia based on that and does not investigate that any further, especially given that he was weighing the lynch between VE/Killing at the eod1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 13:10 GMT
#1551
iam 3pm, you world clock is definitely broken slamdunk
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 13:14 GMT
#1553
I know you don't, i was just curious and wanted to check that out if it had happened.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 13:22 GMT
#1555
Do you seriously think Dandel is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2014 14:24 GMT
#1562
On March 07 2014 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Robik is scum and by far the best lynch today.

  • Only goes after easy targets
  • Tries to shift blame for the day1 mislynch like a boss just because the mislynch he was on didn't get through (just look at what he said about the VE lynch yesterday in comparison to what he's saying today)
  • His reads are clearly fake because they don't change naturally like they would if he was town
  • They also are only made to fit the 'conclusions' he's trying to push, he decided what his conclusio is first and then posts things that support it ignoring everything that doesn't.



Because bitches love this shit I'm even gonna give you a prime example:
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On March 07 2014 12:37 IAmRobik wrote:
GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..

if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE.


I disagree with you regarding dandelion vote. I had forgotten that his vote was on you. He was clearly around from what I remember and if he left his vote on a person that wasn't one of the top 2 wagons, that would have looked extraordinarily scummy.

I'm extraordinarily scummy for changing my vote last minute.
However, I would also have been extraordinarily scummy for not changing my vote.

What does that mean? That Robik doesn't think about the game. He's decided to act like he's decided I'm mafia, so now everything ever in the whole world has to mean I'm mafia. Ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town times 20.


He does the same thing to Killing. Just yells mafia, not even trying to figure out whether that's true or not.

vote et al

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