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I'm a cop you idiot mafia 2
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On February 26 2014 03:15 Xatalos wrote: It's pretty sad to be modkilled even before the game starts  U mod bro? How mod you are? | ||
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(I wouldn't in if I didn't have every expectation of this game being excellent and the setup being good as well, don't worry). | ||
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On February 26 2014 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: @Xata not entirely true though. If mafia hit on N0 and N1 and they lynch town then the game is already won by scum after N1. Only if they get the doctor in those 3 | ||
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That gets awkward. | ||
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TL surch too hard | ||
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I guess I could be wrong I think this game is still playable from the maf side if they don't counter claim though. | ||
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Also Maf won the first so something something game maf favoured nerf pls | ||
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Yeah I guess maf really should claim. | ||
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Unless maf is hella lucky in which case the cop will be flipped and there's no way maf claim obviously. But by the same token even if maf hit the cop N0, the game still goes on its not like town straight up lose. Now, if maf hit the DOCTOR N0, then shenannies start happening because town can't cop claim anymore (unless they cop-checked scum N0). Alright this is working out. me likey. | ||
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I've never played IML btw and my best activity time is generally the 6 or so hours preceeding this game's start T_T. GLHF. | ||
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Food for thought/wifom. I'm also not actually sold on the doc claiming since all it does is pull out a counterclaim from scum. Which would rock if we weren't at lylo. If the doc does claim though, I believe we no-lynch in order to abuse doc checks correct? | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote: Btw Sn0_Man, you think BH's early tryhard makes him scum or that was just a joke? If I was serious about my scumread I'd be making a case duh. On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote: Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0. If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact. Okay did u confuse doc and cop too? I r confuse | ||
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ic. Doc claiming is bad mcbadbad. | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: ALSO DON'T CLAIM VT CAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR SCUM TO SHOOT THE COP/DOC. WHERES MY CAPTAIN OBVIOUS IMAGE MACRO | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1. oke do you know what lylo means? | ||
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I may or may not check this thread for the next... 16 hours. But I'll be on for a long time preceeding deadline or somehting. Toodles. PS: If I was cop i'd be checking artanis I think atm. PPS: The easy solution to scum hammering issues is just voting scum duh | ||
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I gave u guys like 15 hours or some shit tho come on. | ||
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It can't be bad. If only I had reads. | ||
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My reliable scumtell on him is when he hasn't found scum inside a cycle. | ||
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When you get towncred for being demonstrably incorrect about the situation, that doesn't mean ur supposed to keep being blatantly wrong. Sincerely, Me | ||
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still wrong u were demonstrably incorrect about the claiming logic early game. Which BH was quick to point out meant that ur probably town cuz u didn't think through claims. | ||
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On February 28 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote: He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0 did u miss the part where i said "still wrong"? there's no mention of a counterclaim in that post cuz i was wifom'ing the no-counter-claim scenario. in the counter claim scenario I don't think u protect either cop. | ||
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And yes, you just identified the part where I said u were full of bad ideas and right around there BH chipped in with "well that makes JJD town". | ||
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If you seriously couldn't tell, the actual goal of that post was to get some NK wifom out there. | ||
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On February 25 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote: All night actions must be sent at least an hour before daybreak. I will allow mafia to change shots though if they're around and someone tries to make a resolution-period-claim. Lets not have any embarassing bluefails pls. | ||
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Not that I'm having much luck figuring anything out myself but w/e. I have faith or something. | ||
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stop calling cop checks since if scum are reasonably certain who the cop is checking they can avoid counter claiming. | ||
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Regardless, its 4-2 today and we require literally every townie to vote for a scum lynch. If we no-lynch, then it (likely) progresses to 3-2 which is exactly the same "require every townie" situation, but we get an extra cop check. What's not to love? So it will be VERY hard to convince me not to vote no-lynch, but there's also no hurry for that IMO. I'll check the thread infrequently over the next 16 hours again (mostly hoping to see a counterclaim I think), but yeah. | ||
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On February 28 2014 09:15 Sylencia wrote: I'm a Cop Interesting wording. Not "the Cop" but "a Cop". I'm much less inclined to believe syl tbh. Regardless, I'm ez town ez lyfe. No reason to lynch today. | ||
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If somebody else was confirmed u'd lynch me and lose retard | ||
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This is why we get a free cop check after no lynching today. I still believe Xatalos over syl considering previous contributions, as well as "what would scum do" situations etc etc. | ||
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Why the fuck would we not no-lynch? just voting is scumclaiming, or near enough @JJD I don't think cop would return blue, it would return green lol | ||
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I MAKE NO SENSE IGNORE MY LAST SENTENCE My question to oats stands | ||
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At this stage, I'm willing to ##Vote: No Lynch | ||
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Whereas if either "cop" dies sure we have a red check on the other but we miss the information of their cop checks. Although there's also the possibility of some no-kill wifom bombs depending on who the doc saves LOL. Honestly though, the fact that oats and Syl just voted like that tells you what you need to know. Sure, technically they could be town because if they were then xat would be scum and scum wouldn't self-hammer, but there's just no way lol. No-lynch is categorically GOOD for town. The fact that 2 people don't like a no lynch clearly indicates that THEY ARE SCUM. Scum MUST BE: One of Syl/Xat One of Artanis/JJD/Oats If we no-lynch, then we get MORE INFORMATION based on Syl/Xat's true and fake cop checks. THIS CAN'T BE BAD. Sure, there are situations where we don't learn much (my death). But the loss is nonexistant because the voting is ALWAYS every towny required to lynch scum. Losing my vote means literally nothing. Plus the possibility of hero doc saves etc... | ||
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ITS IML PEOPLE. Especially keep in mind tomorrow if ANY towny EVER votes for town they can lose on the spot. So NEVER VOTE until all of town agrees on the lynch. Scum will be willing to bus hammer if they feel like it gives them cred. | ||
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On March 01 2014 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote: except there is no plan. Ok lets say scum shoot artanis. Then what? We still lynch between you and Syl. How does this nolynch help? Lets say scum shoot artanis. Now we know that scum can't be artanis. This is valuable info. THE LONGER THE GAME GOES THE MORE FAVOURED TOWN IS. Then scum MUST be You or JJD one of the 2. I just covered how this can't possibly be bad for town. | ||
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On March 01 2014 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh shit it still doesnt matter because we have to lynch between Xata and Syl. False. And with that I'm done arguing with Oats. Better luck next time dude. | ||
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Its just as reasonable to lynch one of them. Regardless, we dont know who we lynch tmr until we get our fucking cop checks. | ||
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PS: That was fast Dandel. Much impress. Very wow. | ||
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If ur town you should wish to be read as easily as possible and it may be hard to read you if you check somebody random. Checking oats should be very helpful in determining your alignment thanks  Scum will never shoot oats because he's either their best mislynch candidate or scum one of the 2 imo, so it's not unreasonable to have both "cops" checking him tonight. Thx again. | ||
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I disagree that postponing it helps though. | ||
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On March 01 2014 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont know what info can help you make the decision between Xata and Syl. I dunno, maybe their cop checks come 24hrs from now? Should be interesting to see what they come up with. | ||
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On March 01 2014 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Its gonna be 1 red 1 green on oats Daaaaamn son dat scum qt planning | ||
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On March 01 2014 02:23 Oatsmaster wrote: How would we know from the night actions that Im town? Well we have a cop and he's checking you atm... | ||
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On March 01 2014 02:40 Oatsmaster wrote: he really suspected nobody Dam this insight into ur scumbuddies thought process | ||
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On February 27 2014 14:56 Sylencia wrote: Not pessimistic, just realistic. Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0. At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning. I'd like to point out that Syl is advocating a no-lynch here yet didn't vote no-lynch when the day actually rolled around. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 28 2014 13:37 Sylencia wrote: +1 cop check, potential save on a cop kill if the doc does their job properly, and that will give us: - 2 checks hopefully - 1 cop hopefully - 1 doctor which in theory gives us enough confirmed town to at least incriminate someone tomorrow, if not both scummers. Then, not very long afterwards, without giving any reasoning whatsoever, + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2014 14:04 Sylencia wrote: :| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks. ##Vote Xatalos Yeah okay. | ||
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Currently waiting on Syl to say/do anything (or even just break 1 page of filter). JJD too I guess since there exist situations where I have to evaluate him. | ||
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Although Artanis's "I'm VT" wifom was solid too. | ||
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ABSOLUTELY NO VOTES TOMORROW until town has come to consensus since literally ONE vote by a towny on a towny results in a loss if scum are present to hammer. Period. There's simply no acceptable reason for a town player to vote early. | ||
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um we lynch syl obv then oats | ||
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On March 02 2014 05:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Sn0, was it obvious to you that I supported Xala's side? Well, that was the impression i got yes. ##Vote: Sylencia | ||
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And what's more, if I WAS the doc, xata wouldn't be dead now (A conclusion that Oats has clearly already drawn). So the information is available to virtually prove that I'm not the doc. | ||
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Ummm I honestly don't feel like ending it right now, it feels like I owe town a proper read-through of the thread so Imma do that at some point today/tomorrow and go from there. | ||
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Whatever. As promised, reread happens today. Sometime. after which there may be some yolo voting. We'll see. | ||
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If Artanis is in fact scum he probably deserves this win. There are things that give me pause but in the end I can't really not hammer JJD imo. GG | ||
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@Marv: talking to them wouldn't help me | ||
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Hammering JJD and losing doesn't bother me too much tho. Other than the fact that I lost. Oh well. I'd already accepted that I was gonna get flak endgame Believe it or not I did reason out how Scum!Artanis played out the entire game, the motives for everything he did, etc. But that seemed significantly less likely than him just being town. | ||
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I still think doc save n0 should be a thing but w/e. I'm not suggesting the game was imbalanced or that we lost for any reason other than me failing. I just think that an n0 save kinda balances the chance of n0 doc kill. | ||
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(not complaining) | ||
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I understand why syl claimed, just not why he claimed a green check on me. | ||
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NK's being "BH, Claimed Cop, Claimed Doc" in that order made sense though. | ||
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