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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 16:23 GMT
#12
/in

Palmar so srs
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 18:18 GMT
#20
On February 26 2014 03:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 01:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 26 2014 01:20 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, I could commit well enough starting from Friday. Is the game starting around then?

Can Doctors heal themselves (I assume not)?

YOURE ALREADY MODKILLED


It's pretty sad to be modkilled even before the game starts

U mod bro?
How mod you are?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 19:02 GMT
#23
How does a TL mafia game fill inside the first page wat is this sorcery.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 19:12:33
February 25 2014 19:11 GMT
#26
Alright BH promised me the setup is good. If this game sux I get to blame him.
(I wouldn't in if I didn't have every expectation of this game being excellent and the setup being good as well, don't worry).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:19 GMT
#31
On February 26 2014 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@Xata not entirely true though. If mafia hit on N0 and N1 and they lynch town then the game is already won by scum after N1.

Only if they get the doctor in those 3
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:20 GMT
#34
Actually, if its 2-2 but town has a doctor... scum still never hammer themselves right?

That gets awkward.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:27 GMT
#37
Well mafia could win with the D2 post...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:34 GMT
#44
Doc can't heal N1 tho so
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 21:37:46
February 25 2014 21:37 GMT
#49
Aight somebody drop one of those linky thingies so that I can read the first game
TL surch too hard
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:53 GMT
#58
I think palmar wants D1 cop claims not N0 ones.

I guess I could be wrong

I think this game is still playable from the maf side if they don't counter claim though.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 21:54 GMT
#60
Aight I'm slow.

Also Maf won the first so something something game maf favoured nerf pls
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 22:00 GMT
#64
I only read to like the claims and then some endgame lol.

Yeah I guess maf really should claim.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 22:06 GMT
#69
Of course there will be a counter.

Unless maf is hella lucky in which case the cop will be flipped and there's no way maf claim obviously. But by the same token even if maf hit the cop N0, the game still goes on its not like town straight up lose.

Now, if maf hit the DOCTOR N0, then shenannies start happening because town can't cop claim anymore (unless they cop-checked scum N0).

Alright this is working out. me likey.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 22:47 GMT
#74
Hmmm Oke.

I've never played IML btw and my best activity time is generally the 6 or so hours preceeding this game's start T_T.

GLHF.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:01 GMT
#88
How'd BH roll scum twice in a row in this setup?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:06 GMT
#93
If I was the medic, and the doc claimed (obviously post n0), I'd probably not protect the doc since scum literally can't shoot the doc.

Food for thought/wifom.

I'm also not actually sold on the doc claiming since all it does is pull out a counterclaim from scum. Which would rock if we weren't at lylo. If the doc does claim though, I believe we no-lynch in order to abuse doc checks correct?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:08 GMT
#97
Oops yeah "cop claimed" "protect the cop" that shit
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:25 GMT
#105
We covered this pregame. Scum not counter-claiming is simply too close to a concession unless doc dies n0.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:32 GMT
#108
Where's the other 3 clowns?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:40 GMT
#111
On February 27 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
Btw Sn0_Man, you think BH's early tryhard makes him scum or that was just a joke?

If I was serious about my scumread I'd be making a case duh.
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.

Okay did u confuse doc and cop too?

I r confuse
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:43 GMT
#114
OH

ic.

Doc claiming is bad mcbadbad.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:44 GMT
#115
oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:46 GMT
#120
On February 27 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:02 Blazinghand wrote:
actually yeah let me add to this: don't fakeclaim doctor or cop if you are not the doctor or cop. This will only go poorly.

Aww I kinda thought about this


ALSO DON'T CLAIM VT CAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR SCUM TO SHOOT THE COP/DOC.


WHERES MY CAPTAIN OBVIOUS IMAGE MACRO
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#123
how many levels deep of "they know that we know that they know that we know..." did you go?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#125
EBWOP: @xatalos
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:48 GMT
#126
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.

oke do you know what lylo means?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2014 22:57 GMT
#144
Alright n0 starts officially suxxors.

I may or may not check this thread for the next... 16 hours. But I'll be on for a long time preceeding deadline or somehting.

Toodles.

PS: If I was cop i'd be checking artanis I think atm.

PPS: The easy solution to scum hammering issues is just voting scum duh
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:02 GMT
#228
Oke u guys didn't even solve the game wtf
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:18 GMT
#233
I guess I could.

I gave u guys like 15 hours or some shit tho come on.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:21 GMT
#237
its a 6-way tie for first atm
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:41 GMT
#246
Posting reads in the thread actually gives you insight into what scum is thinking cuz they are guaranteed to take ur reads into account when making NK's.

It can't be bad. If only I had reads.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:45 GMT
#247
Where's BH?

My reliable scumtell on him is when he hasn't found scum inside a cycle.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:49 GMT
#249
Dear JJD,

When you get towncred for being demonstrably incorrect about the situation, that doesn't mean ur supposed to keep being blatantly wrong.

Sincerely,
Me
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 16:53 GMT
#251
oh hmm i actually see what u were saying.

still wrong

u were demonstrably incorrect about the claiming logic early game. Which BH was quick to point out meant that ur probably town cuz u didn't think through claims.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:01 GMT
#255
On February 28 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0

did u miss the part where i said "still wrong"?

there's no mention of a counterclaim in that post cuz i was wifom'ing the no-counter-claim scenario.

in the counter claim scenario I don't think u protect either cop.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#260
48 hours earlier I believed there had to be a counter. I actually think the no-counter game is playable for scum atm.

And yes, you just identified the part where I said u were full of bad ideas and right around there BH chipped in with "well that makes JJD town".
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#262
I didn't separate them, I wasn't even thinking about the counter claim scenario when I posted that.

If you seriously couldn't tell, the actual goal of that post was to get some NK wifom out there.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 17:52 GMT
#270
On February 25 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:
All night actions must be sent at least an hour before daybreak. I will allow mafia to change shots though if they're around and someone tries to make a resolution-period-claim.

Lets not have any embarassing bluefails pls.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 18:21 GMT
#291
Ur guys posts are so bad this guy thinks it hasn't started this is great
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 18:27 GMT
#295
I'm trying to figure out who would be rude enough to try and shit on palmars game like this tho cuz its obivously a smoorf.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:19 GMT
#328
There's no real reason to rush the claim/vote. Long days give town time to figure shit out.

Not that I'm having much luck figuring anything out myself but w/e. I have faith or something.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:33 GMT
#337
not happening go digging thru the mafia db lol

stop calling cop checks since if scum are reasonably certain who the cop is checking they can avoid counter claiming.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:35 GMT
#340
ez noobs
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:41 GMT
#343
That is indeed why the thread should NOT decide who the cop(s) check.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2014 22:51 GMT
#348
Aight well unsurprisingly I believe Xatalos's claim although I'm also obviously willing to entertain the possibility that he is fake claiming.

Regardless, its 4-2 today and we require literally every townie to vote for a scum lynch. If we no-lynch, then it (likely) progresses to 3-2 which is exactly the same "require every townie" situation, but we get an extra cop check. What's not to love?

So it will be VERY hard to convince me not to vote no-lynch, but there's also no hurry for that IMO.

I'll check the thread infrequently over the next 16 hours again (mostly hoping to see a counterclaim I think), but yeah.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 00:36 GMT
#371
On February 28 2014 09:15 Sylencia wrote:
I'm a Cop

Interesting wording. Not "the Cop" but "a Cop".

I'm much less inclined to believe syl tbh.

Regardless, I'm ez town ez lyfe. No reason to lynch today.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 00:46 GMT
#373
nope

If somebody else was confirmed u'd lynch me and lose retard
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 00:46 GMT
#374
EBWOP I wanna delete that retard but I can't. Apologies
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 00:50 GMT
#376
Well I certainly don't know who's scum.

This is why we get a free cop check after no lynching today.

I still believe Xatalos over syl considering previous contributions, as well as "what would scum do" situations etc etc.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 01:23 GMT
#382
Dear Oats,

Why the fuck would we not no-lynch?

just voting is scumclaiming, or near enough

@JJD I don't think cop would return blue, it would return green lol
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 01:24 GMT
#383
oh wait
I MAKE NO SENSE IGNORE MY LAST SENTENCE

My question to oats stands
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 01:25 GMT
#384
A 1 in 4 chance that im cop is pretty risky to fakeclaim good call
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 03:45 GMT
#398
sick so its oats/syl scumteam although we still definitely have to no lynch today.

At this stage, I'm willing to ##Vote: No Lynch
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 03:54 GMT
#400
it gives us 1 real cop check and 1 fake cop check lol
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 15:45 GMT
#485
There's definitely some value to the doc healing whoever he thinks the "real cop" is since my death is pretty irrelevant honestly (since we need 4 votes today and 3 tomorrow, its much the same as my vote still counting).

Whereas if either "cop" dies sure we have a red check on the other but we miss the information of their cop checks.

Although there's also the possibility of some no-kill wifom bombs depending on who the doc saves LOL.

Honestly though, the fact that oats and Syl just voted like that tells you what you need to know. Sure, technically they could be town because if they were then xat would be scum and scum wouldn't self-hammer, but there's just no way lol. No-lynch is categorically GOOD for town. The fact that 2 people don't like a no lynch clearly indicates that THEY ARE SCUM.

Scum MUST BE:
One of Syl/Xat
One of Artanis/JJD/Oats

If we no-lynch, then we get MORE INFORMATION based on Syl/Xat's true and fake cop checks. THIS CAN'T BE BAD. Sure, there are situations where we don't learn much (my death). But the loss is nonexistant because the voting is ALWAYS every towny required to lynch scum. Losing my vote means literally nothing. Plus the possibility of hero doc saves etc...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 15:47 GMT
#486
Also, the fact that Oats isn't afraid of insta-maf-hammers tells you a lot.

ITS IML PEOPLE.

Especially keep in mind tomorrow if ANY towny EVER votes for town they can lose on the spot. So NEVER VOTE until all of town agrees on the lynch. Scum will be willing to bus hammer if they feel like it gives them cred.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 15:50 GMT
#489
On March 01 2014 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 00:39 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, you remind me a lot of myself in my previous game as Mafia where I relentlessly tried to stop town from mass claiming blue roles. Nobody believed me, but I continued to try, since a mass claim would pretty much end the game (the setup was quite OP too). You're doing exactly the same thing here.

except there is no plan.
Ok lets say scum shoot artanis. Then what? We still lynch between you and Syl. How does this nolynch help?

Lets say scum shoot artanis.

Now we know that scum can't be artanis. This is valuable info.

THE LONGER THE GAME GOES THE MORE FAVOURED TOWN IS. Then scum MUST be You or JJD one of the 2. I just covered how this can't possibly be bad for town.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 15:57 GMT
#492
On March 01 2014 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh shit it still doesnt matter because we have to lynch between Xata and Syl.

False.

And with that I'm done arguing with Oats.

Better luck next time dude.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#495
If one of u/artanis/jjd dies, then it becomes head 2 head between the other 2 for scum, same as between syl/xat.

Its just as reasonable to lynch one of them.

Regardless, we dont know who we lynch tmr until we get our fucking cop checks.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:12 GMT
#503
Honestly people can we not post after the hammer? I know nobody got lynched but still just have some respect and wait for a host to get here.

PS: That was fast Dandel. Much impress. Very wow.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#527
Oats if you are town then at least 1 scummer voted no-lynch. Since you believe town shouldn't no-lynch, surely you must want Artanis to justify his vote?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:43 GMT
#529
My favourite wifom is still the wifom if nobody dies tonight.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:48 GMT
#532
Honestly no matter how hard I try I can't get Oats more interested in actually figuring out the game or finding scum.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:50 GMT
#534
See?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:51 GMT
#535
What happens when we figure that out Oats? There is still another scummer left.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:54 GMT
#538
Oh okay so if you know JJD is scum why wouldn't you be trying to lynch him yesterday? It seems more certain than Xat vs Syl.
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 16:57 GMT
#542
If u think syl could be scum then whey did u vote xata in an INSTANT MAJORITY LYNCH game?
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:02 GMT
#544
Hey Syl if u could check oats tonight i'd be much obliged.

If ur town you should wish to be read as easily as possible and it may be hard to read you if you check somebody random. Checking oats should be very helpful in determining your alignment thanks

Scum will never shoot oats because he's either their best mislynch candidate or scum one of the 2 imo, so it's not unreasonable to have both "cops" checking him tonight.

Thx again.
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:09 GMT
#549
Well technically we could have lynched yesterday and then no-lynch tomorrow if we felt the need.

I disagree that postponing it helps though.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:17 GMT
#554
On March 01 2014 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 02:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well technically we could have lynched yesterday and then no-lynch tomorrow if we felt the need.

I disagree that postponing it helps though.

I dont know what info can help you make the decision between Xata and Syl.

I dunno, maybe their cop checks come 24hrs from now? Should be interesting to see what they come up with.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:21 GMT
#556
On March 01 2014 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its gonna be 1 red 1 green on oats

Daaaaamn son dat scum qt planning
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:24 GMT
#560
On March 01 2014 02:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
On March 01 2014 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
tell me Xata, if we had lynched scum today, would the info gathered be the same as the info that we will get after tmr's lynch?
How does it differ if it does differ?


The problem is if we mislynch and lose because we lack some crucial information. You might even be town for example. Or who knows, maybe Sylencia is town and fakeclaimed to troll and scum didn't feel the need to fakeclaim (lol). More information is never bad.

How would we know from the night actions that Im town?

Well we have a cop and he's checking you atm...
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:41 GMT
#572
Both claims are a bit weird from a scum perspective tho.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:42 GMT
#573
On March 01 2014 02:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
he really suspected nobody

Dam this insight into ur scumbuddies thought process
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:46 GMT
#577
"quick defuse the easy mislynch by greenchecking the guy everybody wants to lynch"
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:49 GMT
#578
On February 27 2014 14:56 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
dont be so pessimistic.
Whos most likely scum?


Not pessimistic, just realistic.

Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0.

At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning.

I'd like to point out that Syl is advocating a no-lynch here yet didn't vote no-lynch when the day actually rolled around.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 17:55 GMT
#583
Alright Syl clearly understands why nolynching is good as shown by the following post: (note the excellent timestamp). This is post-claim and counter-claim. No new info after this btw.
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2014 13:37 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why nolynch guys wtf. What advantage does it give us? No advantage.


+1 cop check, potential save on a cop kill if the doc does their job properly, and that will give us:
- 2 checks hopefully
- 1 cop hopefully
- 1 doctor
which in theory gives us enough confirmed town to at least incriminate someone tomorrow, if not both scummers.

Then, not very long afterwards, without giving any reasoning whatsoever,
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2014 14:04 Sylencia wrote:
:| Don't worry about me, I'm too naive about scum fake checks.

##Vote Xatalos

Yeah okay.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#585
I need artanis's self restraint.

Currently waiting on Syl to say/do anything (or even just break 1 page of filter). JJD too I guess since there exist situations where I have to evaluate him.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:03 GMT
#591
Like I said, my favourite wifom is "nobody dies" wifom.

Although Artanis's "I'm VT" wifom was solid too.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:17 GMT
#596
What you mean is

ABSOLUTELY NO VOTES TOMORROW until town has come to consensus since literally ONE vote by a towny on a towny results in a loss if scum are present to hammer.

Period. There's simply no acceptable reason for a town player to vote early.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:19 GMT
#598
Okay I suppose. I'm not necessarily even that inclined to lynch a cop claim tomorrow but we'll see.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:21 GMT
#601
Yes, both those votes are safe.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:22 GMT
#602
ebwop: was @arty referring to syl/xat voting each other
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:28 GMT
#605
Syl and JJD are conspicuously absent really lol. But w/e. We are already like 9 pages longer than the last version of this game.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
February 28 2014 22:31 GMT
#607
I didn't mean suspiciously absent just mega afk
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
March 01 2014 20:23 GMT
#698
oh hi
um we lynch syl obv
then oats
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
March 01 2014 20:24 GMT
#699
also its weekend so my activity drops through the floor
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 01 2014 20:41 GMT
#702
On March 02 2014 05:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sn0, was it obvious to you that I supported Xala's side?

Well, that was the impression i got yes.

##Vote: Sylencia
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2014 06:42 GMT
#739
I will absolutely not be instavoting anybody
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2014 18:34 GMT
#798
I'm distinctly not the doc.

And what's more, if I WAS the doc, xata wouldn't be dead now (A conclusion that Oats has clearly already drawn). So the information is available to virtually prove that I'm not the doc.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2014 23:13 GMT
#811
Well this game literally boils down to my vote.

Ummm

I honestly don't feel like ending it right now, it feels like I owe town a proper read-through of the thread so Imma do that at some point today/tomorrow and go from there.
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Sn0_Man
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Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2014 23:25 GMT
#812
PS: JJD feel free to vote Artanis or something as I shan't be voting anybody until I have every intention of ending the game.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 15:09 GMT
#824
I think the best part about this is regardless if i'm right or wrong imma get chewed out for my choice post-game LOL.

Whatever.

As promised, reread happens today. Sometime. after which there may be some yolo voting. We'll see.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 17:00 GMT
#828
##Vote: JarJarDrinks

If Artanis is in fact scum he probably deserves this win. There are things that give me pause but in the end I can't really not hammer JJD imo.

GG
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 17:15 GMT
#836
O well.

@Marv: talking to them wouldn't help me
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 17:32 GMT
#841
A large part of my choice was also the fact that if I hammered Artanis and lost i'd feel actually awful, like I threw the game almost intentionally.

Hammering JJD and losing doesn't bother me too much tho. Other than the fact that I lost.

Oh well. I'd already accepted that I was gonna get flak endgame

Believe it or not I did reason out how Scum!Artanis played out the entire game, the motives for everything he did, etc. But that seemed significantly less likely than him just being town.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 18:13 GMT
#852
Dunno, the chance of cop death is more or less offset by the chance of doc save right?

I still think doc save n0 should be a thing but w/e. I'm not suggesting the game was imbalanced or that we lost for any reason other than me failing. I just think that an n0 save kinda balances the chance of n0 doc kill.
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Last Edited: 2014-03-03 18:21:29
March 03 2014 18:21 GMT
#855
This setup is remarkably close to starting in 2-1 lylo tho lol. U just get a bit of previous info.

(not complaining)
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 18:23 GMT
#859
PS Scum QT is very bare-bones, can I get the explanation behind why syl claimed to have green checked me?

I understand why syl claimed, just not why he claimed a green check on me.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 03 2014 19:15 GMT
#865
I asked myself that question.

NK's being "BH, Claimed Cop, Claimed Doc" in that order made sense though.
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