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Vivax
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On February 28 2014 06:43 Holyflare wrote: hmmm why is vivax saying that he's found that i'm a scummy read but then telling everyone to vote for mocsta based on wifom???? I guess that'll remain a secret. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Mocsta Prob have to go in a few but will be on before the deadline. Not crazy about it but better than a suki lynch methinks. Hey gum. Presuming a scum suki, do you see this coming from scum? | ||
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I had such plans with HF cause he pissed me off, and hence I didn't say anything cause I wanted to shoot him out of the blue and have some laughs. | ||
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Also, I found this at the time where he said he was conflicted cause suki voted for me and found it scummy: On February 27 2014 12:57 Holyflare wrote: Let me spell this out for you. Mafia's main aim of the game is to mislynch players and try to fit in and get themselves town read. Suki starts the game IMO differently to how she normally played (ignore what other people say that she was, they are dumb), she wasn't accusatory, she wasn't trying to question, she wasn't trying to solve. She returns to the thread and the first thing she does is make a case on Mocsta who she had already been voting. Now, a townies mindset would be: 1. Think a person is scum 2. Outline to the thread and vote 3. Pressure, discuss and determine whether you are wrong or right. A scum trying to emulate this can't possibly make someone elaborate because the more they elaborate the more likely that person is to appear towny to everyone else and then you look worse, so how else to fit in? You post something that everyone can agree with. What happens from suki next? She posts a case on chyz, who everyone was on top of and who everyone was considering scummy. She's in the mode for making cases so she's forced out a case, the trouble is he didn't post much and so there's nothing much to call scummy, thus her case looks really really bad and her conclusion is "weak and scummy" rather than "scummy". Not only this but she doesn't try and question mocsta and chyz further and further to try and determine their alignments. Most of her questions are "what do you think of x or y" which is classic scum blending in too. Not only this but the town atmosphere is very good, lots of people were put under pressure and town reads are popping up everywhere, rayn points out in her town game how MORE people were getting read as scum in her game and she was happy with that but in this game her stance is completely reversed, what possible reason is there for a towny to say this? None. There is no scum hunting aspect and her posts have no general overlay to scum hunting. Scooby doo is because she joined the adventure mspaint game while questioning it, it's minor but proven to catch out scum. Vivax also posted some stuff about her read flipping that made sense and i cba to bring it up so read it yourself. On February 28 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote: oh snap, suki is voting vivax? uber conflicted right now He claims to like some of my arguments on suki...why doesn't he feel conflicted there but feels the need to express it when suki votes for me? | ||
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Not to mention that his scumreads perfectly seem to reflect town sentiment, and he seems very reluctant to vote mocsta after the early vote. | ||
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On February 28 2014 07:04 Ange777 wrote: Guys, I'm leaving now. Might have another look before I fall asleep but I won't be there for deadline. If there is anything I need to address, tell me now. Yeah, vote Moc pls. | ||
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On February 28 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote: I made this town sentiment, are you even reading the thread? Do you have a helmet? | ||
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Barring I don't get roleblocked, which is interesting cause scum will have to determine if I'm a threat to them or not. After all I can end up helping them with a wrong shot. | ||
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Btw on reread this case by suki looks really good, the stuff mocsta has said in regard to gumshoe when explaining his actions doesn't really look legit to me. I still have a hard time understanding how she backtracked on Mocsta after posting it though. | ||
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That seems like a lot of effort for scum. I figure scum would be content with posting a case on a person and let that path develop, and not put another one on top out of own volition. After all when you're scum you rather feel like doing the necessary, not much more than that. | ||
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That's good to hear. Is there any way I can convince you to vote Mocsta? I can post seals if you want. | ||
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On February 28 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote: you must be on tilt because i'm countering your arguments for why she isn't mafia with logical points but somehow i'm now antagonising? Deadline is approaching and you pop out when I start doubting the popular lynch to defend it. You play reactively and not proactively, which suggests you feel comfortable laying back and doing nothing until you feel you have to react to something. | ||
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