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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:44 GMT
#1585
On February 28 2014 06:43 Holyflare wrote:
hmmm

why is vivax saying that he's found that i'm a scummy read but then telling everyone to vote for mocsta based on wifom????


I guess that'll remain a secret.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:44 GMT
#1587
Just go away, I don't like you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:47 GMT
#1591
Just a little observation. Two days of game and this Cavalinho dude didn't drop a single vote.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:49 GMT
#1593
On February 28 2014 06:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Mocsta


Prob have to go in a few but will be on before the deadline. Not crazy about it but better than a suki lynch methinks.


Hey gum. Presuming a scum suki, do you see this coming from scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:51 GMT
#1596
Meh,might as well claim my full role. I'm vigilante, hence it isn't necessarily bad if scum rbs me, cause I might end up shooting a townie anyway.

I had such plans with HF cause he pissed me off, and hence I didn't say anything cause I wanted to shoot him out of the blue and have some laughs.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:53 GMT
#1600
Didn't care, I'll still shoot you if you keep getting on my nerves with asking stupid questions and dodging others.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 21:57 GMT
#1605
I remember HF asking me some questions about something, and after I answered he brought up those things again using them against me despite having been answered already.

Also, I found this at the time where he said he was conflicted cause suki voted for me and found it scummy:

On February 27 2014 12:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:43 Cavalinho wrote:
Alright, back from my stint at the gym for today.

Holyflare:

large posts that say nothing other than a player is null to scummy with your spare limited time is scum tell enough, returning to the thread saying we have no focus is what i did in hogwarts (but with extra cases), i'm more than happy to start this shit now + joining the adventure game while questioning it (scooby doo scenarios ++++) take it from the heavyweight champ, i know what scum tells are

##unvote
##vote suki


I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here. I want to believe you're town, but I don't understand your thought process when suki clearly hasn't been here for a large period of time.

Furthermore, geript isn't modconfirmed town. What the fuck? Was that really what he got from the mod message from page 56?

At any rate, this game is a bit of a mess. I'm going to ##unvote for the moment, and see if everything starts making any sense. Everyone is literally arguing in a circle.


Let me spell this out for you. Mafia's main aim of the game is to mislynch players and try to fit in and get themselves town read. Suki starts the game IMO differently to how she normally played (ignore what other people say that she was, they are dumb), she wasn't accusatory, she wasn't trying to question, she wasn't trying to solve. She returns to the thread and the first thing she does is make a case on Mocsta who she had already been voting. Now, a townies mindset would be:

1. Think a person is scum
2. Outline to the thread and vote
3. Pressure, discuss and determine whether you are wrong or right.

A scum trying to emulate this can't possibly make someone elaborate because the more they elaborate the more likely that person is to appear towny to everyone else and then you look worse, so how else to fit in? You post something that everyone can agree with. What happens from suki next? She posts a case on chyz, who everyone was on top of and who everyone was considering scummy. She's in the mode for making cases so she's forced out a case, the trouble is he didn't post much and so there's nothing much to call scummy, thus her case looks really really bad and her conclusion is "weak and scummy" rather than "scummy". Not only this but she doesn't try and question mocsta and chyz further and further to try and determine their alignments. Most of her questions are "what do you think of x or y" which is classic scum blending in too.

Not only this but the town atmosphere is very good, lots of people were put under pressure and town reads are popping up everywhere, rayn points out in her town game how MORE people were getting read as scum in her game and she was happy with that but in this game her stance is completely reversed, what possible reason is there for a towny to say this? None. There is no scum hunting aspect and her posts have no general overlay to scum hunting.

Scooby doo is because she joined the adventure mspaint game while questioning it, it's minor but proven to catch out scum.

Vivax also posted some stuff about her read flipping that made sense and i cba to bring it up so read it yourself.




On February 28 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
oh snap, suki is voting vivax?

uber conflicted right now


He claims to like some of my arguments on suki...why doesn't he feel conflicted there but feels the need to express it when suki votes for me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:01 GMT
#1609
Also what I found scummy about HF is the way he keeps treating the game light heartedly, like you can tell from his persisting jokey posts. Taking things kinda less seriously over prolonged time is something I see as scum tell.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:03 GMT
#1612
He often pops in and pokes players with often jokey posts.
Not to mention that his scumreads perfectly seem to reflect town sentiment, and he seems very reluctant to vote mocsta after the early vote.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:05 GMT
#1617
On February 28 2014 07:04 Ange777 wrote:
Guys, I'm leaving now. Might have another look before I fall asleep but I won't be there for deadline. If there is anything I need to address, tell me now.


Yeah, vote Moc pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:06 GMT
#1618
On February 28 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 07:03 Vivax wrote:
He often pops in and pokes players with often jokey posts.
Not to mention that his scumreads perfectly seem to reflect town sentiment, and he seems very reluctant to vote mocsta after the early vote.


I made this town sentiment, are you even reading the thread?


Do you have a helmet?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:07 GMT
#1620
lol that was actually funny
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:11 GMT
#1622
Yeah well if nobody tests my patience we can do somewhat of a democratic vig during the night and basically create another lynch, but if you piss me off I'll shoot you cause I'm a selfish bastard when I'm town and I will abuse my power to have a laugh over your dead body.

Barring I don't get roleblocked, which is interesting cause scum will have to determine if I'm a threat to them or not. After all I can end up helping them with a wrong shot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:12 GMT
#1623
Anyway I'll go dive mocsta and suki and do my best to determine which one is the better lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:39 GMT
#1626
Geript I'm waiting for you to put your vote on suki cause Toad is voting Moc.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:40 GMT
#1627
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444078&currentpage=37#723

Btw on reread this case by suki looks really good, the stuff mocsta has said in regard to gumshoe when explaining his actions doesn't really look legit to me.
I still have a hard time understanding how she backtracked on Mocsta after posting it though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:43 GMT
#1630
And you think it's likely that scum suki comes 1 hour later and drops another case on another person?
That seems like a lot of effort for scum.

I figure scum would be content with posting a case on a person and let that path develop, and not put another one on top out of own volition. After all when you're scum you rather feel like doing the necessary, not much more than that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:44 GMT
#1631
Really I wish I didn't have to claim so I could put a bullet in your head. You're doing nothing but antagonizing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:45 GMT
#1633
On February 28 2014 07:42 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Geript I'm waiting for you to put your vote on suki cause Toad is voting Moc.

Not gonna happen.


That's good to hear.
Is there any way I can convince you to vote Mocsta? I can post seals if you want.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 27 2014 22:47 GMT
#1634
On February 28 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 07:44 Vivax wrote:
Really I wish I didn't have to claim so I could put a bullet in your head. You're doing nothing but antagonizing.


you must be on tilt because i'm countering your arguments for why she isn't mafia with logical points but somehow i'm now antagonising?


Deadline is approaching and you pop out when I start doubting the popular lynch to defend it.
You play reactively and not proactively, which suggests you feel comfortable laying back and doing nothing until you feel you have to react to something.
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