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On February 27 2014 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And that's why noone believes you. You are not going to convince me with your case. You never talk to Toad about anything else than the crap from the beginning, you just rehash the old point noone believes over and over again and say "i know this guy is mafia". I said it before and i say it again, if you don't have more i will not believe you.
Like here's the beef Rayn, like I'm here rereading Vivax despite the fact that I think he's town. Despite the fact that I don't really like the cases on him. Despite the fact that no ones even fucking to bother to read Toad. You think I'm town, hell you even agree I'm mod confirmed. Sweet. But like, you scratch my back I scratch yours dude.
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That's a good catch, but I agree it's not really strong either direction. I'll try to explain it more tomorrow.
As for Vivax the only really good point Wave made was on the "towny getting to the bottom of an issue" thing.
On February 27 2014 05:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking school internet
Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing. Can you explain to me how you can find me suspicious for not-scumreading a guy you didn't even look into yet? You want to hear reasons for him being something when you don't even know what he wrote? What would you do with these reasons when you didn't even reach any own conclusions you could compare the information with? But you're suspicious cause I give reasons for not talking about my read on him when you give out reads for "feels"? ##Vote WaveOfShadow
This post struck out to me as a real emotional disconnect. Not in the sense that he's faking rage or anything but it's really weird to go from the last statement here directly into a case. Withholding reads is usually viewed as weird and scummy. Vivax isn't like "get over it, not going to happen" but he's also not in any way trying to counter pressure to see why Wave doesn't get that.
His post not even caring about my super town read on his scum suspect is weird but not so sure it's scummy.
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Rayn here's a hint for tomorrow. Control f through Toads filter in relation to his reads post. Like just really disregard me and the read on me at all. Instead look at the tangential people, suki, Vivax, etc. like there's nothing ever said about them. Conversely, look at his scum targets and the post you quoted where gumshoe jumps his null reads for next to lynch. Like the jump doesn't make any sense. Like his Vivax read is complete bs. Like once he decides Moc/HF are his #2 suspects then they get all the time despite not adding anything realistic to the conversation about them. Even his post about after I flip red he'll look at chyz is like super scummy. Like, it's not just the miller trolly Rayn counter read thing only.
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On February 27 2014 17:54 Mocsta wrote:
Who ah.....
If its a good catch, how is it null?
The direct implication of a goof catch is that its meaningful....
Co side ring this is your primary scumspect, I find the response weird
Partially because it's D1 so town is more likely to flex to trust a solid townread's opinion. Partially because I can see scenarios from both perspectives that would get him both remembering the meta read and ignoring it for the time being.
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Oh god, I just fucking lost a huge ass post on Toad because the fucking flash on TL seems to sporadically crash my browser.
Here's the summary poitns:
1. Follows thread sentiment which is what he does as scum (see Shadow). Like he makes little points here and about people as the thread is bringing them up in the middle of his posts about me.
2. Really weird interactions with "#2 scumread Holy"; like he doesn't ever really address him as scum. He has these little pokes but never follows up on it and is willing to completely trust the Rayn townread on Holy. Like he never really addresses why he thinks Holy is scum in any sort of way and never seems to read his filter. More importantly, he looks to be reading people based only on whether or not they agree with me as scum, but it's not like Holy or Moc haven't at least looked at me hard.
3. Like somehow he ends up with Me/HF/Mocsta scum which is really weird because like those are the people he's interacted a bunch with me and there's no real thread sentiment on but there's no real follow through on them whatsoever. Then as things shift one way or another towards one way or another, he's more willing to post on them.
4. His townreads are completely weird. Suki, Vivax and Gumshoe and JJD. Like there's no real comment on them whatsoever; more importantly when they've been brought up or their points have been brought up he's been mostly silent on them (other than Toad throwing shit on Suki in the middle of a big post on me).
5. On February 27 2014 02:10 Toadesstern wrote:
someone I'd be much happier to read after geript has flipt red.
He goes along with my thoughprocess in this whole discussion about geript which is obviously something I like. He therefore ends up voting geript as well.
His "defence" on me is somewhat weird so. Like mocsta is someone who's clearly still somewhat suspicious about me but he's clear about it. And then there's other people going the other way who are very clear about it like rayn.
I don't like people implying I'm townish without outright saying it basicly, which is the only beef I've got with him right now.
And I'm certainly not going to vote the guy who's the only other guy voting geript with me
This post is really bad. Like Mocsta who ends up as one of his scumreads he's both really friendly with and is willing to look at later after I flip. Like it's really really scummy.
Like there's no real sense in anything he posts; there's no consistent viewpoint of how he's going to read anything. It's just complete gibberish.
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On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.
##unvote
##vote Geript
On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.
Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.
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On February 28 2014 03:45 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:
OK, can someone else please ask gumshoe to back his claim that I've mostly sheeped suki. Or explain why he's continuing to make stuff up even after I already shot his case to shit? I see you live in the united states, how does freedom taste?
Unctuous and delicious.
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On February 28 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
why you ignore my shit geript
Because Toad is the best lynch for today, tomorrow and the end of time.
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On February 28 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
why you ignore my shit geript
Like how can you not even consider Toad when he gave such a non-read townread on suki based on nothing, has said nothing about her whatsoever, continues to do complete bullshazazzle with his reads. Like I don't get it, that type of shazazzle can't come from town. The only way I'm willing to move to Suki today is if you're willing to lynch Toad tomorrow.
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On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.
##unvote
##vote Geript On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now. Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum. exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong. What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess. Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?
No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.
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On February 28 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:50 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
why you ignore my shit geript Like how can you not even consider Toad when he gave such a non-read townread on suki based on nothing, has said nothing about her whatsoever, continues to do complete bullshazazzle with his reads. Like I don't get it, that type of shazazzle can't come from town. The only way I'm willing to move to Suki today is if you're willing to lynch Toad tomorrow. because i consider you more fucking scummy for doing all this shit, saying you were ignoring everything i said, every point on toad you made is something i had already brought up, ignoring people that other people think are scummy because you cba to read into them and point out things and when you finally conform to rayn and do read vivax's filter you start to point out things and are like "hmmm... maybe" we get what you have said about toad, people aren't listening, find other people to talk about?
No. I'm tired of people not listening to my reads. You want to lynch me for it. Go ahead. DGAF. I'm putting my vote on scum and if you don't like it then get over it. I'll give you the same offer I gave Rayn. You want to lynch Suki; fine. I can roll with that because it's an alright secondary choice despite being a newb. But I'm not going to vote with you unless you agree to vote with me on Toad tomorrow. That's non-negotiable.
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On February 28 2014 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:53 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.
##unvote
##vote Geript On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now. Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum. exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong. What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess. Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus? No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing. Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote:On February 27 2014 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cavalinho why are your posts so short and lack content unlike the last game? Because I died immediately last game. I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens. I like this guy Third time I caught you lying. LYNCH IT
lol. That's not a read. That's not even close to a read. If you are town and think that's a read then you need to stop ever playing mafia because that would make you the dumbest person in history. Like a walrus, dolphin or orangutan could make a better mafia read.
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On February 28 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:55 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote:On February 28 2014 03:50 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
why you ignore my shit geript Like how can you not even consider Toad when he gave such a non-read townread on suki based on nothing, has said nothing about her whatsoever, continues to do complete bullshazazzle with his reads. Like I don't get it, that type of shazazzle can't come from town. The only way I'm willing to move to Suki today is if you're willing to lynch Toad tomorrow. because i consider you more fucking scummy for doing all this shit, saying you were ignoring everything i said, every point on toad you made is something i had already brought up, ignoring people that other people think are scummy because you cba to read into them and point out things and when you finally conform to rayn and do read vivax's filter you start to point out things and are like "hmmm... maybe" we get what you have said about toad, people aren't listening, find other people to talk about? No. I'm tired of people not listening to my reads. You want to lynch me for it. Go ahead. DGAF. I'm putting my vote on scum and if you don't like it then get over it. I'll give you the same offer I gave Rayn. You want to lynch Suki; fine. I can roll with that because it's an alright secondary choice despite being a newb. But I'm not going to vote with you unless you agree to vote with me on Toad tomorrow. That's non-negotiable. nobody listens to you because you play like an asshole
Pot meet kettle
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Yah I'm going to take a break for a while. I'm not moving my vote regardless.
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On February 28 2014 07:23 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah I'm out for now as well, see you tomorrow and try to lynch Mocsta or geript, thanks
Yup. There's no way scum shoot one of their own.
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On February 28 2014 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Geript I'm waiting for you to put your vote on suki cause Toad is voting Moc.
Not gonna happen.
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On February 28 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 07:42 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Geript I'm waiting for you to put your vote on suki cause Toad is voting Moc. Not gonna happen. That's good to hear. Is there any way I can convince you to vote Mocsta? I can post seals if you want.
Also not going to happen.
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On February 28 2014 07:52 Vivax wrote:
Can you tell me what your problem is?
One I think Mocs town. I've completely forgotten why exactly now but I didn't really like any of your points. Plus like toad is way scummier.
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On February 28 2014 08:06 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 07:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 07:52 Vivax wrote:
Can you tell me what your problem is? One I think Mocs town. I've completely forgotten why exactly now but I didn't really like any of your points. Plus like toad is way scummier. Phonepost Ill tell you what: I think this may warrant another look for next lynch, but your playstyle is completelyy turrning me and everyone else off from listening to you. Can you be a prodcutive member of town and help us out with this lynch?
Look I don't care. Like nobody's paid any serious attention to the toad read. I had read each and every of you and Ryan's thoughts. Hell, I've even looked at most of HF's stuff despite being wholly unable to read him. Like I'm tired of it. Toad is so fraking scummy beyond measure and you and Rayn and half everyone else have given him super mysterious town reads. Like I've at least bothered to give reasons for my reads on people and I'm not going to bother thinking about anyone else's reads until they start taking mine seriously. It's not going to happen any other way.
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On February 28 2014 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
lol
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lol
You better be looking at Toad like right now.
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EPT
