On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.

There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?

Fuck you man, I dont wanna hear shit from you, your so fucking blind it scares me, how the fuck can you believe that Moc is scum after the game that you just hydrad with him!? The two play styles are totally different. You should be the one defending him honestly, yet your so caught up in your own massive ego that even when you realize how scummy suki is, you still wont give up on Moc, cause that would mean you were wrong wouldnt it? And we cant have that now can we, cause thats never happened before right?

you argued that mocsta was happy at the start of the game which you aligned with him being town, he's put under pressure with 24 hours remaining and all but concedes with a list post and how he is unhappy/now demotivated so why is he so town for it, I don't understand?

If I was angry about rolling scum every game, I would troll to make up the difference in enjoyment and when If I finally did roll town I would be elated and of course to be all but declared scum soon after would crush me. Mocsta's melancholy makes absolute sense in my eyes. There is also a difference between conceding as a depressed townie and rage quiting as scum, he offers us a list he absolutely doesnt have to, scum Moc would just say "fuck this town, everyone so bad" and not offer us more reads to go off. Moc is not in a place to put this much effort into a game as scum, hes not scum, stop calling him scum.

Like I understand coming from GSL that you would think that. I was able to obs the game and my conclusion at the start of this game was the same, but it was only that, at the very start. I don't know how you all play and such so I just commented that Mocsta atm was the only person that gave off a townie vibe. However as the game progresses that same logic can't be applied. Just because he puts more effort is not a valid reason for you to guarantee that mocsta is not scum. Like mentioned by rayn (?) the GSL game was just a drawn out lurker fest which is actually probably the reason why mocsta got so antsy. Stop sticking to this argument this late in the game, its useless.

Nah effort has nothing to do with why I think he's town. It has to do with looking at the game from his perspective and seeing how is reads and thought process evolves. Like him, wave and I were newbies (and experienced newb) together so we have loads of history.

geript

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February 27 2014 03:57 GMT

#1148

On February 27 2014 12:43 Cavalinho wrote:Furthermore, geript isn't modconfirmed town. What the fuck? Was that really what he got from the mod message from page 56?

Nah like that post obviously mod confirms me. No way hosts can know I'm serious about posting while driving unless I'm town. Like if I'm scum I could just say that to buy time. Totally mod confirms me.

geript

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February 27 2014 04:18 GMT

#1153

I don't know about Aquanim but like every time I've asked to roll something I haven't gotten what I asked for. I don't think most hosts really remember or respect that.

geript

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February 27 2014 04:35 GMT

#1156

On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:

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My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

Explain

geript

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February 27 2014 05:05 GMT

#1168

On February 27 2014 13:48 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I find it annoying that geript is playing like ass for fun right now.
He's probably town but it makes me want to policy him.

Gratz, you're back on my lynch list.

geript

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February 27 2014 05:15 GMT

#1176

On February 27 2014 14:06 Mocsta wrote:

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Y r u playing like this dude....

Nah dude this is really weird for him. He wants me to not ignore and post on his shazazzly Vivax posts but has never commented on his townread on toad or why he thinks I'm wrong on toad. It's not only one way. Like he's been weird on lots of little things but I'm totes keen on trying to read him right but this shazazzle doesn't fly with me.

geript

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February 27 2014 05:55 GMT

#1195

That's a really bad town read

geript

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February 27 2014 05:57 GMT

#1197

No Wave, I think you're wrong. I think the atmosphere and stuff makes me think there's a scum lots of people think is town. Doesn't feel like there's any scum scramble right now.

geript

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February 27 2014 06:03 GMT

#1199

On February 27 2014 14:58 suki wrote:

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And so? What's your point?

Like it's super scummy but you have a freebie pass... You should be thanking me.

geript

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February 27 2014 06:06 GMT

#1201

Nah I'm back and forth on null and scummy for various reads. I'm curious why people have found him towny at all.

geript

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February 27 2014 06:13 GMT

#1203

Nah they're not really wholly formed yet so no dice. As for holier than thee, well I am mod confirmed town.

geript

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February 27 2014 06:25 GMT

#1205

Newbies get a 1 day pass for me because I say so. DGAF if you care otherwise.

Because that felt naturalish to me but not alignment indicative. Like I get why'd you think that but MocLogic got retired... Not accurate anymore.

geript

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February 27 2014 06:33 GMT

#1207

I love it when you're intentionally dense.

geript

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February 27 2014 07:36 GMT

#1215

Both Rayn and Wave should have recognized that I'm not this dickish and stubborn unless I've got a really good read; one that I'm really passionate about and believe deeply for good reasons. I pulled it in LoL on Oats and everyone called me nuts. I pulled it in Nuclear correctly saying we should lynch MajuGarzett and then Ace for nuking him despite Maju having a nuke going towards his face. Again I was right. I did the same thing with TAA and JJD in Bluelightz. Like, you're both really really bad for not looking at him, especially you Rayn because your townread reasoning was awful. I'm going to dick waggle here because you're going to help me lynch Toad so help me god. You're going to do it because I'm asking you guys to trust me on this one because I'm fucking right on it and I know it. So you can join me and we can lynch scum Toad or you can circle jerk around more and end up mislynching yet again. Like even his whole list of reads was totally scummy and none of them made any sense. Like you guys should've been all over him like a fat man on a hooker by now. I expect you to change your vote to toad and help drive the wagon instead of shitting the bed.

Moc I'd appreciate your help too. HF I really DGAF what you do.

geript

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February 27 2014 07:50 GMT

#1217

Goddammit then look at him and read him again with a fresh mind.

geript

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February 27 2014 07:55 GMT

#1222

On February 27 2014 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also remember a quite recent game where you did the exact same thing to Blazinghand and congratulations he was town and it got you both killed. So not a good plan anyways.

No the difference was that in Aperture 2 I had the ability to kill whoever I wanted. I didn't give a fuck what anyone else thought or read about it. I had a really good read on Alakaslam that no one listened to in that game either; for the record, I just figured he'd be lynched super early regardless for being obv scum.

geript

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February 27 2014 07:56 GMT

#1223

Fine. Who do you want me to look at then?

geript

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February 27 2014 08:06 GMT

#1226

On February 27 2014 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax.

Btw i also think you are modconfirmed town, despite me thinking you were town earlier.
Hosts should never interact with the game in any way and while your modconfirmation is most likely crap there is a chance it's not because it makes sense. So from now on i will make a policy that i refuse to believe anyone who get's "modconfirmed" by stupid hosts or does BS shit like Mocsta is town and if it ruins the game so be it because it's not my fault.

Nope not going to do it. I have a townread on him and I refuse to read any more shazazzly cases on him.