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I feel like this thread has gone completely out of control. (Or maybe my absence has led me to feel this way)
Can't believe i'm asking this but WTB Rayn back.
Random shit to comment on before talking with people:
Toad v Geript---jesus just fucking stop it. Geript, Toad is not being lynched today. I suggest you take your own advice and start looking elsewhere as well because in that argument I side with him. Also your read on me is absolutely terrible and 'geript-y.' The thing about that read is I know you, and you KNOW what you're doing with that read of me, but I just can't quite glean the capacity in which you're using it. I honestly feel like I should be able to read you better by now but unfortunately I can't. We should actually talk some.
TheChyz---lot of pressure on this guy now. Interesting because I remember thinking JJD was scum (though I can't remember why now) and the two of them seem linked. Will look in depth.
Vivax - I won't be voting gumshoe today in all likelihood. You missed the boat on that despite the points you bringing up against him being novel. I'm actually interested to see what Rayn has to say about your case given he dropped his '100% townread' on gumshoe last night.
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I feel like this thread has gone completely out of control. (Or maybe my absence has led me to feel this way)
Can't believe i'm asking this but WTB Rayn back.
Random shit to comment on before talking with people:
Toad v Geript---jesus just fucking stop it. Geript, Toad is not being lynched today. I suggest you take your own advice and start looking elsewhere as well because in that argument I side with him. Also your read on me is absolutely terrible and 'geript-y.' The thing about that read is I know you, and you KNOW what you're doing with that read of me, but I just can't quite glean the capacity in which you're using it. I honestly feel like I should be able to read you better by now but unfortunately I can't. We should actually talk some.
TheChyz---lot of pressure on this guy now. Interesting because I remember thinking JJD was scum (though I can't remember why now) and the two of them seem linked. Will look in depth.
Vivax - I won't be voting gumshoe today in all likelihood. You missed the boat on that despite the points you bringing up against him being novel. I'm actually interested to see what Rayn has to say about your case given he dropped his '100% townread' on gumshoe last night.
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Ugh sorry internet here is shitty atm.
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On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 04:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
vivax, how do you feel about Chyz or the people voting him? I find it odd that you haven't mentioned him despite the fact that he's got 4 votes on him right now. I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious.
lol right off the bat that's pretty awful.
You'd rather focus on the people you find scummy, except they're not around right now so you have nothing further to push as you've said yourself. Why not comment on Chyz?
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And wait.
You don't think he's scum, but you don't want to remove pressure on him (and as such, possibly add pressure to those YOU find scummy)?
What IS this Vivax?
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Where did I say I thought Chyz was scummy?
I said the pressure on him is interesting and as he is an important topic I should look into him.
You seem to be avoiding it specifically.
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Rayn do you not think that's actually attacking gumshoe from a different perspective?
Neither you or I mentioned his read of mocsta in conjunction with that post.
Geript, am I town now? Because apparently now you may have to convince Vivax 'cause he wants to talk to you about me.
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On February 27 2014 05:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller? of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever Pshh. That was fast. You whore. This was a post that felt like it wasn't funny enough to be town Wave. Like it's hard to explain but this post really bothered me on a visceral level and I couldn't explain why. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:On thi 26 2014 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe just tell me now.
Am I going to have to policy lynch you for lurking this game? If u r town I don't like at all what our doing. Which is. Crating an atmosphere of intimidation If u think otherwise, surely you can admit that the above is not conducive to gleaning the alignment of gumshoe in the slightest Gumshoe post was very reasonable and called me town for the right reasons. Did u read a thing he wrote? Just establishing my dominance, honey. Yes gumshoe's post was reasonable, but also easy. It doesn't say a thing to me about yours or his alignment. I was curious as to whether or not he'd actually be playing this game as I'm used to him either playing his heart out, or lurking like crazy. This one struck me as odd because I've only really experienced Wave dickwaggle on voice. Show nested quote +On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss? Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released. As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play. Red Herring or something to keep note of? Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn. Something JJD said reminded me of something: On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.) Town should always be considering all options. I missed this post earlier but it's really subtly super super towny. He's referring to JJD's interaction with Mocsta about Mocsta phoneposting Sukmi instead of Suki where Suki responds and JJD gets in there a bit Moc. It shows that Wave is connecting various points together at once; like his mind is bouncing around instead of specifically looking for something he can latch onto. That fact is not only supertown but like super super town for WoS as well.
I could go on further to explain but there's no point in doing further right now.
Ah I think I can finally get a solid read on you.
Pop quiz, and answer this quickly.
Why is this super town for me?
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On February 27 2014 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:bcz of what i have already said. If you don't do anything real i will end up voting for you because scum want to break up people's townreads on other townies when they don't understand where they are coming for (yes, i just did that in GSL IV). Even if the read is as bullshit as you make it seem like it is in your opinion (which it isn't) it's far far more likely that it's townies who give town reads on other people based on bad reasoning at the start of the game because scum have no reason to do so. So get over it and go do something else, right now you are tunneling someone for bullshit reasons and it makes you look bad. Even if you are right that definitely does not make Toad mafia and you are never going to convince anyone with your case. This is also something i think you would realize as town which makes me think you are even more scummy.
K Rayn I have officially decided I like you this game.
For once, just once, can we try and work shit out together?
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On February 27 2014 05:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn do you not think that's actually attacking gumshoe from a different perspective?
Neither you or I mentioned his read of mocsta in conjunction with that post.
Geript, am I town now? Because apparently now you may have to convince Vivax 'cause he wants to talk to you about me. I think so. I really doubt I've shat the bed on that read, but I'm not doing your dirty work for you wubby. Talk to me about the JJD read; I still want to know what you think about him.
lol.
JJD read was based on something I remember from playing scum with him in Les; being all 'shitting from the sidelines' and whatnot, but that's meta-based and is not the only thing---there was something he posted that struck me immediately but I have to go back and find it. It also may not be as relevant due to his more recent posting.
On February 27 2014 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn do you not think that's actually attacking gumshoe from a different perspective?
Neither you or I mentioned his read of mocsta in conjunction with that post.
Geript, am I town now? Because apparently now you may have to convince Vivax 'cause he wants to talk to you about me. No but it has been mentioned before. Vivax already said later on he does not want to question people for same stuff other people do and that's all i see in that post.
Can you find it? I honestly don't remember that being mentioned before, but it's possible I missed it due to the sheer volume of discussion around gumshoe.
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On February 27 2014 05:10 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 05:01 geript wrote:On February 26 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad are you a miller? of course not, but I like this question. You replace WoS as my buddy to murder all of mafia. Easiest townread ever Pshh. That was fast. You whore. This was a post that felt like it wasn't funny enough to be town Wave. Like it's hard to explain but this post really bothered me on a visceral level and I couldn't explain why. On February 26 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:On thi 26 2014 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe just tell me now.
Am I going to have to policy lynch you for lurking this game? If u r town I don't like at all what our doing. Which is. Crating an atmosphere of intimidation If u think otherwise, surely you can admit that the above is not conducive to gleaning the alignment of gumshoe in the slightest Gumshoe post was very reasonable and called me town for the right reasons. Did u read a thing he wrote? Just establishing my dominance, honey. Yes gumshoe's post was reasonable, but also easy. It doesn't say a thing to me about yours or his alignment. I was curious as to whether or not he'd actually be playing this game as I'm used to him either playing his heart out, or lurking like crazy. This one struck me as odd because I've only really experienced Wave dickwaggle on voice. On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss? Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released. As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play. Red Herring or something to keep note of? Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn. Something JJD said reminded me of something: On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.
If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer? In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.) Town should always be considering all options. I missed this post earlier but it's really subtly super super towny. He's referring to JJD's interaction with Mocsta about Mocsta phoneposting Sukmi instead of Suki where Suki responds and JJD gets in there a bit Moc. It shows that Wave is connecting various points together at once; like his mind is bouncing around instead of specifically looking for something he can latch onto. That fact is not only supertown but like super super town for WoS as well.
I could go on further to explain but there's no point in doing further right now. Ah I think I can finally get a solid read on you. Pop quiz, and answer this quickly. Why is this super town for me? I don't know if I can wholly explain why it is for you especially, but like you tend to play while reasonably distracted. So when things jog your memory they actually jog your memory instead of faking it. Like there's not any specific, how do you describe it, agenda behind it. It just is what it is.
What are you basing this 'distraction' thing on? How do you know?
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Yeah I'm reading JJD right now. It's sort of the same thing I guess but Vivax goes into specific detail while JJD simply just goes off of gumshoe's sentiment at the time. You are right though it's not completely novel and so now I feel better about being suspicious of Vivax.
Can you read into JJD a little for me?
He flip-flops around a lot on Mocsta which I actually find decently townie, but the problem is throughout his posting, his reads look as though they're echoing wherever he guesses thread sentiment to be going at the time. He also says he agrees with my sentiment (the post you and I argued about forever) but never comments on it beyond that point or expands; you'd think that a comment on his strongest scumread at the time would warrant a little more.
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Ugh and geript's answer didn't give me as much as I'd hoped it would.
Every game geript acts as though he knows me and what I do and he is always always wrong; trouble is I'm pretty sure he is wrong as both alignments.
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Fucking school internet
Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing.
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On February 27 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah I'm reading JJD right now. It's sort of the same thing I guess but Vivax goes into specific detail while JJD simply just goes off of gumshoe's sentiment at the time. You are right though it's not completely novel and so now I feel better about being suspicious of Vivax.
Can you read into JJD a little for me?
He flip-flops around a lot on Mocsta which I actually find decently townie, but the problem is throughout his posting, his reads look as though they're echoing wherever he guesses thread sentiment to be going at the time. He also says he agrees with my sentiment (the post you and I argued about forever) but never comments on it beyond that point or expands; you'd think that a comment on his strongest scumread at the time would warrant a little more. The only thing that bothers me with JJD is that (i hope i am not lying here because i am not 100% sure if he has in fact done this ^^) he's not came up with a case that's actually JJD'ish already. But from what i read the post i just referenced in addition to Vivax' one, i stand behind my townread on him for the towniness of the thought process in that post.
I actually find his later posting is what makes me feel a little better---the post that turned me onto Vivax specifically.
JJD you're around, aren't you?
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On February 27 2014 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking shit geript has to be town.
but please please don't be like thins geript. okay?
I'm not so sure I agree. His play is awfully close to Survivor series. I'm not saying that make him scum but what it does mean is he is very much aware of himself and what he looks like. I would say I'm on the townier side of null when it comes to him, but I find the Toad/Geript thing hard to believe is a town/town fight for some reason.
I need to look into Chyz.
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Geript if you're town what you're doing isn't productive. Toad is not going to be lynched today, and if he were (unfortunately, because I know how shitty it is to feel ignored----assuming you're not faking that which I KNOW YOU CAN DO) it wouldn't be because of you.
Comment on Vivax atm. I'm pretty sure he didn't expect you to come back with a townread on me when he came out and said I looked scummy. What do you make of his posting recently?
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On February 27 2014 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking shit geript has to be town.
but please please don't be like thins geript. okay? I'm not so sure I agree. His play is awfully close to Survivor series. I'm not saying that make him scum but what it does mean is he is very much aware of himself and what he looks like. I would say I'm on the townier side of null when it comes to him, but I find the Toad/Geript thing hard to believe is a town/town fight for some reason. I need to look into Chyz. No he is not. In Survivor he was giving opinions left and right and commented on multiple cases in detail. This is the "my way or highway" -geript that ends up being a massive shitfest or ragequit. geript and Toad, you can't lynch each other, it's not gonna happen today. Could you both please at least talk about other people? This is going nowhere atm.
And you don't remember scum geript raging and quitting the thread in Survivor?
Toad, I agree with that sentiment, but there are other things that Geript has done which doesn't make it so simple. I really do think we need to be looking elsewhere today.
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On February 27 2014 05:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking school internet
Vivax difference between you and me is I haven't looked into chyz yet but I want to, as it is relevant to thread interest right now. I don't take a stance on him yet because it doesn't make sense for me to have one before reading. You give a read based on.....? And then refuse to elaborate further.
Those two things are most certainly not the same thing. Can you explain to me how you can find me suspicious for not-scumreading a guy you didn't even look into yet? You want to hear reasons for him being something when you don't even know what he wrote? What would you do with these reasons when you didn't even reach any own conclusions you could compare the information with? But you're suspicious cause I give reasons for not talking about my read on him when you give out reads for "feels"? ##Vote WaveOfShadow
When I give out 'feels' reads I always say so. You have a read on Chyz for reasons you'd 'rather not say.'
It has nothing to do with what your actual read on Chyz is. It has to do with you specifically withholding information from town for absolutely ZERO reason.
You must realize your OMGUS against me doesn't have a leg to stand on, right? Like....you randomly bring up 'feels' to try and make me look bad?
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On February 27 2014 05:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 27 2014 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 27 2014 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking shit geript has to be town.
but please please don't be like thins geript. okay? I'm not so sure I agree. His play is awfully close to Survivor series. I'm not saying that make him scum but what it does mean is he is very much aware of himself and what he looks like. I would say I'm on the townier side of null when it comes to him, but I find the Toad/Geript thing hard to believe is a town/town fight for some reason. I need to look into Chyz. No he is not. In Survivor he was giving opinions left and right and commented on multiple cases in detail. This is the "my way or highway" -geript that ends up being a massive shitfest or ragequit. geript and Toad, you can't lynch each other, it's not gonna happen today. Could you both please at least talk about other people? This is going nowhere atm. And you don't remember scum geript raging and quitting the thread in Survivor? Toad, I agree with that sentiment, but there are other things that Geript has done which doesn't make it so simple. I really do think we need to be looking elsewhere today. No, quitting Survivor had nothing to do with anything in thread.
No, I mean the earlier shitfight where you left the thread for like a day. Not the replacement out.
I'm just showing Rayn you are completely capable of faking rage as scum---the tunnel is not a town-geript only thing. Hell I still remember your tunnel of me as scum in The Game.
(As an aside, I am probably capable of faking rage but I never do  )
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