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Well the part in that post of suki that bothers me is this one:
One of the main things that I disliked about Vivax's play was that he didn't seem like he was interested in scum hunting, particularly in the beginning of the game. I think that it's more consistent with his town meta.
I started the game by getting at rayn, getting at geript and asking him questions about WoS. I don't see how that's not scumhunting as opposed to drawing shitty paint pictures, and even more I don't see how not scumhunting is supposed to be my town meta. Am I scumhunting more as scum or what?
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Gum, it was speculation under the premise that you would rather bus than give your buddy a townread.
Being speculation I can't know if it actually applies, so I'm not following that rule to the letter, especially not without knowing your alignment.
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I'd like people to riddle me this then.
On February 27 2014 09:17 Mocsta wrote:
I'm liking geript. As scum he could be trying to look good by town reading me, but his reasons seemed decent and not bullshit. It at least showed he thought about it which I thinks important with one caveat. He normally calls me town for moclogic which he hasn't dine here. Either way he's a terrible lynch for today.
On February 28 2014 01:22 Mocsta wrote:
13. Geript (filter) Too many illogical thought processes. Keeps of taking, but doesnt give back. Its difficult to express my distaste without a filter dive; but I get the feelings hes hamming up a destructive meta. I think he even alluded to this early game when I said as scum I like to infiiltrate town, and he said, not everyone is like that. I also really dislike he didnt town read me for moclogic. (a town Geript trademark)
I dunno why I feel so strong about quite a few ppl being town, but yeah, thats where I am currently.
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No one is willing to lynch geript? Are you reading the thread gum?
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On February 28 2014 03:50 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:46 Vivax wrote:
No one is willing to lynch geript? Are you reading the thread gum? This still stands. Show nested quote +Geript
In the midst of the tl mafia ban list crisis, I asked Geript on team speak "Geript, if tl mafia is incapable of changing to your liking, would you rather just see it all burn to the ground?" his response? "ABSOLUTELY". Having thought about it, I realize that Geript is entirely capable of this level of tunneling on toad for such shoddy reasoning, but as others have pointed out, he knows his own meta / : Geript is my Gumshoe T_T. Down grading to null. We should all just ignore his Toad case so hes forced to talk about other people.
What does that have to do with anything I just addressed. You just said geript isn't at chance of being lynched, yet people are discussing him on THIS page.
Mocsta comes in with his victimistic post acting as if his lynch was set in stone and says he likes geript and his reasoning for him being town with one caveat, the moclogic shit.
Later he says geript shows terrible logic and if geript doesn't call moc town for moclogic then it's scummy.
What's the deal with you and Moc, gum. If you are so sure that he's town try to persuade me, cause you go all out even saying things that aren't true (geript isn't a lynch candidate, so that post isn't scummy) to defend him.
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On February 28 2014 03:53 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.
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##vote Geript On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?
But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.
Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now. Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum. exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong. What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong? Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess. Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus? No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.
I just can't believe that this post could come from scum, get the fuck off of geript.
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I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.
I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.
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On February 28 2014 04:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.
I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that. then maybe you should check survivor series
Skimmed it, doesn't look at all like here. Many voteswitches, few reasons. Couldn't really spot a tunnel. Also jokey tones at the beginning of the game.
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And now gonna check if he was mafia or not lol.
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And the point you want to make is? If somebody is scum depends on whether he tunnels or not?
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On February 28 2014 04:28 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you. Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie? Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well. He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
What happened to your suki scum read. A lot of your bad cases on JJD are based on them being scum together and showing their connections.
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And with that I mean: How did you go from this
So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him)
to this
He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
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On February 28 2014 04:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:28 Vivax wrote:
And the point you want to make is? If somebody is scum depends on whether he tunnels or not? i'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick headed, you said his emotion makes him towny, I said there is evidence it doesn't and that's not a town tell anyway but then you somehow relate it to a meta read on geripts tunnel...?
You think he was emotional in that game?
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On February 28 2014 04:34 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard.
Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
Find me examples for the bolded, cause the hyperbole you use for him jumping around doesn't really reflect in his filter.
He voted Chyz, then unvoted saying his posts looked townie. Now he's on your ass. That's all I gained from his filter and it doesn't look like he's jumping around like crazy like you say.
Most of your case against JJD is something that could be used against you and your irrational certainty of Mocsta's alignment.
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On February 28 2014 04:36 gumshoe wrote:
Ok, lets play it this way, instead of just pointing to a meaningless inconsistency, tell me why my upping you to number 2 of 3 while still holding you all together as scum makes me scum, or why I would do that as scum. I want motive, otherwise all your doing is scape goating.
Or you could simply explain how you set those priorities.
My guess is that it depends on the likelihood of one of them getting lynched.
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On February 28 2014 04:51 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 04:45 Vivax wrote:On February 28 2014 04:34 gumshoe wrote:On February 28 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:And with that I mean: How did you go from this So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him) to this He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype? Whats changed? I still think your all scum. You must be pretty desperate to be nitpicking this hard. Dude, there's one part in your case that doesn't assume JJD and suki are scum together:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
Find me examples for the bolded, cause the hyperbole you use for him jumping around doesn't really reflect in his filter. He voted Chyz, then unvoted saying his posts looked townie. Now he's on your ass. That's all I gained from his filter and it doesn't look like he's jumping around like crazy like you say. Most of your case against JJD is something that could be used against you and your irrational certainty of Mocsta's alignment. Hes been on and off Moc, Me and Chyz and he just back traked on Suki as well. My irrational certainty of Mocsta is based off a games worth of experience with him together as scum, Jar's faith in Suki was based off one post and as the heat mounted onto her he forgoed her as well. Oh and that one piece of my case saying theyre not scum together is exactly why I would prefer to not lynch Suki before him or you. Shes still probally scum, and I'll gladly vote for her, I'm just making preferences clear.
I've been on you, Moc, geript, WoS and whatnot.
HF has been on another shitload of people.
Rayn has been on another shitload of people.
Are Toad and geript supertownie just cause they only bark at each other?
It's an awful explanation for somebody being scum if you don't show HOW those switches have been scummy.
And you won't know if those switches were scummy if you don't ask jarjar how he changed his mind on these subjects.
Which would be the next step.
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JarJar is there anything in gumshoe's play that suggests to you that you're dealing with scum as opposed to a bad townie?
I'm curious cause not everyone posting a bad case on you has to be scum, if you could post some reasons outside of his case on you it would be great (or point me to them).
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Holyflare since you're here to post your cocky comments you could also delve into this gumshoe JJD debate, which you don't do for unknown reasons when gumshoe is a guy with whom you share at least two common possible lynch candidates.
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Hey WoS how sure are you from 1 to 10 that I'm scum?
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Also to answer your question first: I've been playing the game.
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