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On March 02 2014 12:07 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Their are still some unanswered questions, like why Cava yolod onto Moc to save suki, or how Geript called Toad was scum from virtually nothing (dude seriously deserves mvp if hes town, which he likely is.) and why toad let the vig shot through and claimed an undetermined read on Cava. Wether or not Chyz is noobie scum that got hard bussed by his gf does not deserve to be regarded amongst these other mysteries. No, it was totally answered. Go filter dive and stop wasting my time.
No, I actually really want to revisit this. What is the purpose of this statement if you're being rhetorical? It seems like the whole purpose behind it is to open up the possibility of more lynches.
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Alright, you want my reads? Here you go:
WoS, HF, Chyz, and you are all town. The reasoning being duh and go away.
The only two people I would be okay with lynching are gumshoe and JJD. Gumshoe is, for some odd reason or another, pushing you as a possible lynch with said posts that I've been quoting. JJD is the only other person on Mocsta that isn't me, and I know that I'm town, but I don't know what he is.
If you aren't going to vote JJD, then vote gumshoe.
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On March 02 2014 16:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:27 Cavalinho wrote: Wait, how many blues are in this setup? Doesn't matter.
Doesn't it?
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On March 02 2014 16:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:50 Cavalinho wrote: Alright, you want my reads? Here you go:
WoS, HF, Chyz, and you are all town. The reasoning being duh and go away.
The only two people I would be okay with lynching are gumshoe and JJD. Gumshoe is, for some odd reason or another, pushing you as a possible lynch with said posts that I've been quoting. JJD is the only other person on Mocsta that isn't me, and I know that I'm town, but I don't know what he is.
If you aren't going to vote JJD, then vote gumshoe. No acceptable. Tell me why those people are town in your book. More importantly tell me why you think JJD/Gumshoe are the possible scum. Like you're going to get lynched today, but if you're town then I need to be able to see things from your perspective because I've missed something important then. Like I need you to put in actual work.
I'm not going to get lynched today. Go away.
Literally everyone else seems to be getting off with not doing shit, and you seem to be totally fine with that. Go bother them.
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On March 02 2014 17:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:57 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 16:54 geript wrote:On March 02 2014 16:50 Cavalinho wrote: Alright, you want my reads? Here you go:
WoS, HF, Chyz, and you are all town. The reasoning being duh and go away.
The only two people I would be okay with lynching are gumshoe and JJD. Gumshoe is, for some odd reason or another, pushing you as a possible lynch with said posts that I've been quoting. JJD is the only other person on Mocsta that isn't me, and I know that I'm town, but I don't know what he is.
If you aren't going to vote JJD, then vote gumshoe. No acceptable. Tell me why those people are town in your book. More importantly tell me why you think JJD/Gumshoe are the possible scum. Like you're going to get lynched today, but if you're town then I need to be able to see things from your perspective because I've missed something important then. Like I need you to put in actual work. I'm not going to get lynched today. Go away. Literally everyone else seems to be getting off with not doing shit, and you seem to be totally fine with that. Go bother them. This post is super super scummy. It flat out says I'm not going to do anything at all because I don't have to. Lynch it w/ fire.
No, this post is scummy. You're ignoring the fact that there are two players in the game proposing a lynch list and then /afking from the thread. You're ignoring the fact that one of the players is playing to practically avoid a modkill at this point. You're twisting all apparent logic to try and get me lynched.
Oh, and for the record? Go filter dive, because I know you haven't if you're trying to push on me after I've been pushing stuff since after the night sequence. My filter isn't even that long, you have no excuse for not doing so.
I want to think you're town, but you keep pushing on me for stupid garbage that makes no sense. Go away.
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On March 03 2014 00:15 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:36 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 12:07 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Their are still some unanswered questions, like why Cava yolod onto Moc to save suki, or how Geript called Toad was scum from virtually nothing (dude seriously deserves mvp if hes town, which he likely is.) and why toad let the vig shot through and claimed an undetermined read on Cava. Wether or not Chyz is noobie scum that got hard bussed by his gf does not deserve to be regarded amongst these other mysteries. No, it was totally answered. Go filter dive and stop wasting my time. No, I actually really want to revisit this. What is the purpose of this statement if you're being rhetorical? It seems like the whole purpose behind it is to open up the possibility of more lynches. The whole purpose behind it is to close a lynch. Chyz is 100 percent town. You are not. I do not need to open up your lynch. It is a book sprung open for all to see going on days now. As for Geript, I retract my statement, he too is 100 percent town because he is defending people, you and jar jar have been doing nothing but trying to throw the lynch off of yourselves. Which is what scum need to do, to clear anyone in this situation is disadvantageous to them especially cause there's no one left in the game they want to defend. Geript defending jar jar and still wanting longer days makes no sense if he's scum, because both hurt his odds of back to back mislynches. Sorry I ever doubted you Geript ) : your just really good at this game XD. As for you cav, it's this simple, mafia went all out to save their gf, you and jar were on Moc, your both going to die if that's what it takes, we are going to win.
Okay. Then why would you make a rhetorical statement doubting someone that's 100% town?
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And for the record, JJD fits your own desription of what mafia is. He's pushing on both you and TheChyz, who is, by your own admission, 100% town.
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On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.
I think both of us are town and JJD is just trying to push us to lynch each other.
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If JJD is town, then that means that Vivax had a 2/3 chance of misfiring.
This would explain why Vivax wasn't roleblocked.
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Vivax, did you ever actually consider shooting gumshoe during night 1?
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Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long.
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On March 03 2014 03:04 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long. Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim. Show nested quote +Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is. Show nested quote +That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar. Show nested quote +he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game. Show nested quote +Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD Show nested quote +Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig". Show nested quote +Shoot. Jar. Jar.
But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.
I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot.
That doesn't actually make any sense. You would rather the shot be on you, a confirmed townie from your own point of view, over someone you perceive to be scum.
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On March 03 2014 03:12 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 03:08 Vivax wrote: If all three flip green we lynch geript, I just said he was town cause of the post where it looked like he actually did care who got lynched first and meant it but I can't get it out of my head that the thing between him and Toad was a D1 bus to shit up the thread, with arguments unconvincing enough to not get that far. We need to stop talking about who were going to lynch after. Both cav and Jar have been exploiting these discussions to sow preemtive dissent. Thats how they've been playing all of day 2, making us promise to lynch x after them and causing fights between us that way. Today should be between the two of them, who we lynch day 3 is a matter meant for day 3.
Okay. So I guess that earlier comment you made about questioning geript is totally fine and dandy.
Just gonna sweep that under the rug.
Okay.
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I thought everyone already decided that JJD was dying today.
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On March 03 2014 04:23 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 03:21 Cavalinho wrote:On March 03 2014 03:04 gumshoe wrote:On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long. Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim. Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is. That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar. he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game. Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig". Shoot. Jar. Jar.
But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.
I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot. That doesn't actually make any sense. You would rather the shot be on you, a confirmed townie from your own point of view, over someone you perceive to be scum. YES BECAUSE THEN I AM A SHOT VT AND HE IS A FIRED VIG. We are two confirmed townies who the previus day and night were both suspect, which is infinitely preferable to a mishot townie. Yes it's ideal if hes lucky and kills scum, but second best is scum letting his shot through, and me being confirmed along with him. It makes complete bloody sense. But you know what, I dont expect you to understand, your not a vet, in fact most likely the opposite.
We are not trying to clear people. We are trying to find scum.
That is the entire purpose of this game.
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On March 03 2014 04:38 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 04:32 Cavalinho wrote:On March 03 2014 04:23 gumshoe wrote:On March 03 2014 03:21 Cavalinho wrote:On March 03 2014 03:04 gumshoe wrote:On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long. Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim. Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is. That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar. he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game. Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig". Shoot. Jar. Jar.
But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.
I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot. That doesn't actually make any sense. You would rather the shot be on you, a confirmed townie from your own point of view, over someone you perceive to be scum. YES BECAUSE THEN I AM A SHOT VT AND HE IS A FIRED VIG. We are two confirmed townies who the previus day and night were both suspect, which is infinitely preferable to a mishot townie. Yes it's ideal if hes lucky and kills scum, but second best is scum letting his shot through, and me being confirmed along with him. It makes complete bloody sense. But you know what, I dont expect you to understand, your not a vet, in fact most likely the opposite. We are not trying to clear people. We are trying to find scum. That is the entire purpose of this game. solving the game helps catch scum, knowing for a fact whose town in no way hurts. In fact, in this situation, the person who purely scum hunts is likely scum, because it's in thier interest to keep as many people suspect as possible and they have no one left they want to protect. Also, you telling me how to play the game implies I'm a newb, I'm fine if you wanna say that, but then why are we having this conversation? Tell me why my wanting to clear two townies and prevent a mishot makes me scum.
At this point, we're just arguing semantics instead of trying to win. I do think that killing a scum is better than confirming a player, but that's beside the point.
I stand by the fact that JJD is our best kill right now. We both agree on that.
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On March 03 2014 06:23 Vivax wrote: Overall I got a nagging dark feeling about this game, like there is some unexpected turn of events, scum where we don't imagine it.
My post from before still stands. If you weren't roleblocked, that means you had a big chance of misfiring into the crowd of people that voted Mocsta.
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On March 03 2014 06:29 Holyflare wrote:Yes, definitely YOUR point right............... -.- Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 06:26 Cavalinho wrote:On March 03 2014 06:23 Vivax wrote: Overall I got a nagging dark feeling about this game, like there is some unexpected turn of events, scum where we don't imagine it. My post from before still stands. If you weren't roleblocked, that means you had a big chance of misfiring into the crowd of people that voted Mocsta.
Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:04 Holyflare wrote:On March 01 2014 09:03 Cavalinho wrote:On March 01 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote: why the fuck didn't he rb vivax..........? It's fine, don't think about it. i absolutely have to think about it Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:04 Cavalinho wrote:On March 01 2014 09:04 Holyflare wrote:On March 01 2014 09:03 Cavalinho wrote:On March 01 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote: why the fuck didn't he rb vivax..........? It's fine, don't think about it. i absolutely have to think about it No, it's fine. Stop thinking about it. Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:05 Holyflare wrote: like, if he didn't rb vivax then he thought vivax wouldn't target him and so thought he would mis-shoot the other people he was thinking about so they are likely to be town too Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:06 Cavalinho wrote:On March 01 2014 09:05 Holyflare wrote: like, if he didn't rb vivax then he thought vivax wouldn't target him and so thought he would mis-shoot the other people he was thinking about so they are likely to be town too Actually, I was kind of fucking around, but this is a very good point.
I told you to stop thinking about it.
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On March 03 2014 06:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 06:26 Cavalinho wrote:On March 03 2014 06:23 Vivax wrote: Overall I got a nagging dark feeling about this game, like there is some unexpected turn of events, scum where we don't imagine it. My post from before still stands. If you weren't roleblocked, that means you had a big chance of misfiring into the crowd of people that voted Mocsta. Or if geript is scum then they figured that if one of them died the other would be able to carry them to lategame, and hence accepted the risk. Really you can write a book about the possibilities of N1, can we just look at other stuff.
This whole scenario relies on the last two people on Mocsta being town. It is entirely possible.
And don't forget what rayn said about gumshoe.
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On March 03 2014 07:21 Vivax wrote: Also if we have a doctor or a jailkeeper then there's no way gum is town.
Why is this?
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