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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:29 GMT
#1261
Rayn put your vote off of me, you're better than that.

On February 26 2014 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
On February 26 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
On thi 26 2014 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Gumshoe just tell me now.
Am I going to have to policy lynch you for lurking this game?

If u r town I don't like at all what our doing.

Which is.
Crating an atmosphere of intimidation
If u think otherwise, surely you can admit that the above is not conducive to gleaning the alignment of gumshoe in the slightest


Gumshoe post was very reasonable and called me town for the right reasons.
Did u read a thing he wrote?

On February 26 2014 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:14 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
@moc
Anything you want to discuss?
Im drafting up my issues with Suki so feedback on that would be good when its released.

As an aside/observation/muse till then, I havent read in detail the interactions between Geript/Toad/Rayn (as I have been focussed on you + Suki) however I am finding Rayns approach to Toad odd (regardless of alignment). Basically I know Rayn doesnt respect Toads town play.

Red Herring or something to keep note of?

Nah I'm generally okay with it. I don't find it alignment indicative for Rayn.

Something JJD said reminded me of something:
On February 26 2014 10:08 gumshoe wrote:
Mocsta seems into it this game, overall just sharper off the bat then when I was scum together with him just a few days ago. Hes been rolling red alot lately and thats been frustrating him, but I hear none of that agitation in his posts so far. Preliminary read of course, but I feel good about his accusation not coming from a place of deceit. So now I'm left wondering, is he right about Suki? Suki's post doesn't quite feel like it was thought out days in advance, (it's a fairly sloppy one and obviously susceptible to critique) but it does feel crafted, which gives me the sense that she read her pm an hour ago and started over thinking her opening. The post itself is also one that calls back to old games, an attempt at inducing nostalgia. How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them and the harry potter claim might be aiming for that.

If Suki isn't scum she's either a) nervous, or b) baiting. Suki, which explanation do you prefer?

In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.)
Town should always be considering all options.
I agree w/ this assesment. Also I find it odd that he seems to give moc a townread for some pretty terrible reasoning. Especially since IMO, moc has been acting pretty scummy.
So...

in Back to basics as both town, you found me scummy.
in GSL Mini IV as me scum you town... you found me townie.
in this game you find me scummy.... guess that means im town.

Congratz JJD.


Scum slip?
Are you now copying your early case on DP from vengeful?


You criticise Wave for saying some silly nonsense and saying if you're town why do that because it doesn't solve gumshoe's alignment or anything. Yet, same page of filter here you are saying nonsense to JJD who is bringing up points on other players. By your own reasoning townies shouldn't do that so why the change of heart so soon? Or are you sticking to what you said? "TOWN" don't do that!

Hypocrisy doesn't necessarily come from scum, you know that. I do want to hear Mocsta's response though.

##Vote: gumshoe


This vote doesn't make any sense, unless WoS explains exactly what made him suspicious of gumshoe at the time, cause the explanation is lacking in his filter. He only says gum should deliver a not meta explanation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1264
So you thought Wave scumread you cause of [/B]?

Way to make the game confusing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:37 GMT
#1267
What made you think he looked scummy, wave. That's the point of the question. Was it his post about Moc and suki, or the followup?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:40 GMT
#1271
I don't remember the @ geript thing, but in retrospect I think I wanted to direct it at you actually. Cause you called that stuff marketing crap.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:42 GMT
#1272
On February 27 2014 22:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 22:37 Vivax wrote:
What made you think he looked scummy, wave. That's the point of the question. Was it his post about Moc and suki, or the followup?

Was a buildup. Eventually I saw enough that I felt like voting him.
Right off the bat I found him suspicious, you can see it in my filter.


Dude, you keep not saying anything.
If you found him suspicious, there must have been a reason. What was the reason? Don't say feels.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:51 GMT
#1275
The premise is that the post is scummy, Moc. I mentioned your and suki's possible alignments based on the premise that gum is scum, not the other way around.

Reading comprehension is a good skill toi have
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:54 GMT
#1277
Yes gumshoe's post was reasonable, but also easy. It doesn't say a thing to me about yours or his alignment.


And later you say


In this post gumshoe doesn't offer the option that doesn't fit his idea of what suki is doing. (For example, she is neither AND is town.)
Town should always be considering all options.


Which I already addressed earlier stating that gumshoe actually did consider all options, which you say is townie, and I say is scummy cause of the way he did it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:56 GMT
#1279
Especially because of the first quote I'm not buying your suspicion of gumshoe, and the way you abandoned your vote on him so easily, and how you didn't poke him when he said he had stuff he didn't want to share at the moment, and and and
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 13:59 GMT
#1281
Wave asks gum if he should policy lynch him for lurking 2 minutes after he posted something that Wave said to be not alignment indicative.

Later Wave touches upon the same post to say what's scummy about it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:05 GMT
#1286
You say this---the only scenario then to me in which the above makes sense is if they're both scum together. Are you making preflip associations in your case, Vivax?


If you read what I wrote about gumshoe's post in my first post you would understand what I mean.

He claims he's suspicious of suki for the tone of her posts, cause it feels crafted. At the end of the post he said that if she's town she's either nervous or baiting, which immediately offers an alternate explanation to his own crafted post theory.

You say its townie to consider all options. I claimed it's scummy cause he basically offers her the easy out to his own interpretation of events, which leads to gumshoe's post having zero impact with the points he mentioned about suki.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:09 GMT
#1289
You can ride on that post all you want Moc. Fact is, I didn't go back to lurking, and I just witnessed the toad geript shitfest that looked like a load of bullcrap to me and hence made the post.

Gumshoe didn't even come back since my post at the time, so there can be no gobetween.

Try to fling more shit pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:14 GMT
#1296
It goes on that the way WoS treated gum throughout his "suspicion" is not townie.

Calls him out for lurking, says the post said nothing about gum's alignment, later touches upon that same post to say that town should consider all options.

Asks gumshoe for metaless case, gumshoe doesn't deliver. WoS doesn't care that gumshoe doesn't want to share information, and says that he starts to lean sloppy town on gumshoe, yet keeps his vote on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:18 GMT
#1300
Rayn, I don't understand what made you go 180° on Moc, just stick to your arms and just look at the shitflinging on me.

Point 1: Countered cause he didn't comprehend a post.
Point 2: Countered cause I had my reasons for that post.
There comes point 3: Hey Vivax all the points I said about you just now are completely worthless so please talk about the stuff you didn't counter yet.

No thx Moc.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:20 GMT
#1305
Wow Wave sure explodes easily. So you ask him if he's going to lurk, point accepted, it's not supposed to imply anything.

The other points still stand.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:23 GMT
#1312
This game everything is nitpicking and/or calling things weird but not specifying why they are worth calling out.


Post examples.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:39 GMT
#1319
Question to geript about WoS:

On February 27 2014 03:34 Vivax wrote:
Yeah can you go into detail on these posts you felt were off please? I responded to one of those, where he asked me why I would focus on gumshoe when others already discussed him (which is something I don't understand from a townie point of view)


So, where is the certain conclusion Moc?

I was always doing blabla in GSL and now I'm always doing blabla. What a load of crap, and zero examples to back it up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:42 GMT
#1321
That question also reflects the fact that WoS couldn't understand why I would discuss gum JUST cause people lost interest into him.

Like, he's wondering why I would call out something as suspicious....about one of his former scumspects. Wow, such townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 14:56 GMT
#1323
This is from one of the best players on this forum:

On March 12 2013 12:08 Foolishness wrote:
No, there's only crappy evidence on why Vivax is mafia.

When he's mafia, he spams one liners (with the very rare long post). See TL Mafia LX here. He's mafia and he literally did nothing day 1 except post one liners and derp around.

Now look when he's town in British II here. He barely posts any one liners, and his posts have substance; he actually says what he thinks. He doesn't derp.

And this game he doesn't have one liners and is clearly trying.


Others scumgames you might want to look up are LVIII, where town self-destroyed itself and Yet another normal mini mafia.

And with that, I'm done defending myself. If you're town and voting for me consider yourself a nublet.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 15:03 GMT
#1328
If you had read the thread you would have known she posted stuff on me earlier.
Not reading your scumreads' stuff?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
February 27 2014 15:09 GMT
#1333
JarJar what's your take on me? I'm a more likely candidate than gum atm.
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