Cultured Mini Mafia - Page 152

On March 07 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Gonna hardcore filter dive the both of them to make sure first.

Gg vivax :/

On February 28 2014 16:17 TheChyz wrote:

Even tho I think this was meant as a joke I think that ultimately this is what this game feels like. I don't think any of the scum have any of the votes on suki since there was not substantial votes on her until the end of the day. Also apart from that basically everybody who has voted for suki I read as being town. The only iffy one in there for me is gumshoe.

Even for the small posibility there is 1 of the scum that voted for suki, it can't be possible there was 2 (I'm assuming 3 scum at least since thats what it usually is, right?) voting for her. Therefore I think for now we treat those 5 as confirmed towns. Along with that vivax for now gets a confirmed town pass from most people (could change depending what happens after night is over). So the only people that should be left to analyze are myself, mocsta, geript, toad, cava, and JJD.

After reading suki's filter more closely I came with a few conclusions. As typical with scum, it is pretty normal for them to have some contact with another scum member in order so that it doesn't really look like they are avoiding them and in order to gain any credibility later on in the game in case they get lynched. A quick summary of her filter is:
alot of talk with mocsta early on, asking ppls opinions on mocsta, I'm her second scum read, tries to make a terrible case on my meta, town read on Wos, goes a bit on vivax by sheeping WoS, again more questions about mocsta, JJD is town read, geript is weird as FU, votes on vivax, asks holy what thoughts on me are (was really random imo), backs off of vivax, jumps back onto me, lynched to death. (PS, she didn't unvote so dunno if her vote still went through, doesn't really matter, but hopefully someone can confirm if it counts or not so i know just in case for the future).

After going through this the only people who are on the list in the last paragraph are myself, mocsta, geript, and JJD. So I think from now on that these are the only people that should be left for town to analyze. I myself know I'm town so for me its down to only 3. But for everybody else I think that town should just focus on these atm as I'm pretty sure one of them is scum.

On an aside, I remember pretty well that suki jumped from a null read to suddenly number 2 read from mocsta... even more strange now that we know suki's alignment.

On March 07 2014 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
Wave... Don't be scum plzzz

I looked at chyz's filter and it did look pretty good but now that geript flipped town it looks a lot worse - town reading toad with no explanation and out of the blue when he shouldn't have been. Only calling people scummy but not interacting with them based on that, called out geript etc for the push on toad and didn't look for elaboration from either of the two. Now I've also lost my train of thought but there was more that i read that looked weird.

Will re-read when i wake up just to make sure

On March 07 2014 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm sad that apparently you mind losing to me but I don't mind losing to you.
(Well I don't want to lose, but still.)
Can we both agree we don't want to lose to gumshoe?

My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

I like Wave's case on Vivax and it was one of the ones that stood out to me when I was rereading the thread.

I have a strong townread on Wave and I'd be willing to sheep him on Vivax.

honestly WoS is probably between "probably town" and "townie as shit" but didn't want to get a 4th green color.

On March 07 2014 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Reading through his filter he mentions toad I think once?
And he only talks about suki right near the end of the day. Almost all of his cases/points/discussions are around townies he finds scummy (which technically would be similar of a lot of people, me included).

I'm actually not sure he gives anyone a townread at all all game though....
Re-re-reading.

On March 03 2014 09:09 TheChyz wrote:
Also cav, what is the point of wanting to lynch your target? You wanted him lynched before you told us you are cop. If you really are cop that what is the point of lynching your target? Save him for the next night phase so you can actually get a read on him and go after someone else. Makes no sense to me, what was your thought process of wanting to go with the JJD lynch. Looks like it only benefits you if you are scum and nothing else.

On March 07 2014 12:44 gumshoe wrote:


The key thing is that he yolos onto Geript almost all of day 1, that way he indirectly defends toad and avoids voting for suki.

On February 27 2014 08:23 Vivax wrote:


And the conclusion is?You want to feed rope to moc or geript?

On February 27 2014 08:27 TheChyz wrote:
geript > mocsta

On February 28 2014 08:44 TheChyz wrote:

Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will

On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote:

I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke

On March 07 2014 12:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope nvm I'm wrong.
He calls me and Toad town real early.
No explanation why though.

Then calls Cav towny
and then this:

Does that post come from scum?
If so, how?

On March 07 2014 12:45 WaveofShadow wrote:

Geript did the same thing, except his vote was on scum.

On March 07 2014 12:42 gumshoe wrote:


Hey I've earned this win if im scum : P for me, the key things to keep in mind with Chyz is 1)suki made her case on him long after the thread started tearing him apart

2) they both had convinient buffer votes, so that they wouldnt have to follow through with thier threats.

3)Toad declined to talk about chyz, and had him firmly at null, similar to how suki aproached toad and toad aproached suki.

I've learned my lesson, this scum team have only been willing to buddy townies.



This comes out of Suki, she hard defends jar jar, so that he looks bad when she falls, or vice versa. Wos, I dont know if you realized this but toad and suki have done much the same with you.

Suki



Toad



As for what this scum team is thinking, its pretty simple, toad looks townie by fighting with geript always and forever, chyz and suki fight but always have one scum read ahead so that they never need to vote for one another, otherwise they dodge questions about eachother and green read obvius townies. Oh and Toad/chyz felt the shot literally HAD to hit town if scum wanted to win. The end.

On March 07 2014 12:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

To be fair, suki and Toad HAD to find me townie as shit because I was.
The only people who ever disagreed with that all game are Rayn (because he calls me scum every game, we fight and then he either believes me or doesn't), Geript (because his meta/behaviour reads of me are terrible), and Vivax (??? but he had to take his vote off me eventually).
Suki's never played a game with me so it's doubtful to me that she would want to take me on considering how strongly I played D1. Toad knows I will call him out for bullshit directed at me from Shadow Game (even though we didn't lynch him in the end, I had the right idea to start and I would assume he had no reason to want attention from me---he chose Geript instead who he hasn't really played with and chose poorly there as well because he got the same thing).

Problem is here giving me a townread would be exactly what HF OR Chyz would do here as well. HF knows I can be manipulated (ie VE) and Chyz for the same reasons as suki.

On March 07 2014 12:48 gumshoe wrote:


So? Chyz's vote has him indirectly defending scum, advocating a mislynch, and allows him to avoid putting a vote on his gf. Context is everything.