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On February 28 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: No no no no Cavalinho, you don't lynch your scumbuddy on D1 if you can avoid it. Lynching mafia D1 is far worse for scum than even all scum hard defending that said mafia. And yet, Shadow Game.
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On February 28 2014 17:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 17:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 28 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: No no no no Cavalinho, you don't lynch your scumbuddy on D1 if you can avoid it. Lynching mafia D1 is far worse for scum than even all scum hard defending that said mafia. And yet, Shadow Game. Yeah but even marv thought they lost the game because of the lynch.  Yeah, and Shadow Game is precisely why I want to do some voting analysis when I get the chance tomorrow. I do agree with what was said so far I think, in that it may be that scum really DID for once try and all-in to protect suki, but I have to be sure of that because many MANY games I've been a part of all show scum voting patterns in which they spread themselves out as much as possible. Suki's last second switch likely doesn't count as it was self-preservation either way.
Again I have a whole bunch of time so I'll go into detail tomorrow but I think I like the lynch/shot plan thus far.
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Haven't had time to do the analysis I wanted to, but a few random points until after deadline: Gumshoe = town until further notice. Kinda dumb to assume he isn't. Vivax's shot will obviously not go off. Doesn't mean he's scum, gumshoe.
Vivax's trains of thought have been, hwo to put it...'off the beaten path,' throughout the entirety of this game. He's the only one who suggests looking into Ange, thinking gumshoe might still be scum at this point. He's acting as the voice of dissent. I don't think that's scum mindset (could very well be good towny thought process) but it's something that's been getting at me throughout reading stuff that's happened today.
There was something else but I forget. BBL ladies and gents. I doubt I'm going anywhere tonight, but if I do, follow the leaders. They know what to do.
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On March 01 2014 05:17 geript wrote: I want you to admit that I'm a leader and look into toad already wave. Vivax can shoot Toad tonight for all I care. You've played well today and yes there's no reason you shouldn't be included in the big fuzzy town circle. it doesn't mean your D1 was productive even IF Toad was scum. Part of playing the game is trying to assure that people listen to you (and for whatever reason, it appears to be more difficult for certain people than others).
Ignoring town requests and acting annoying and stubborn doesn't award you any points even if you caught the entire scumteam 1h into the game.
Yes, I admit I may very well have been wrong about Toad (and I think I admitted that earlier) especially considering his activity or lack thereof today, and I will look into him. One thing that I should mention is this awful martyring is likely to come from town, though it's probably also important to consider Toad has done exactly this same thing as town in a recent game (forget which one, think it was BttB?) where Rayn was involved so I can't see any reason to think it could be on purpose as well. I also share the view that it's extremely silly of Toad to think saccing himself will get you lynched.
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On March 01 2014 08:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 07:43 Cavalinho wrote: I still think JJD is a good kill. I said it yesterday, and I stand by it now. I highly doubt a shot will go off. Gumshoe basically told us they were gonna RB vivax tonight. This is stupid and you know that. A shot will not go off because either vivax is scum or because he is town and it is the right and obvious play for scum to make.
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Poor Toad. All that effort put into a fakeclaim--- Now wait a sec. Does this mean he planned on Cavalinho being 'red?' (Making him town?) Too much WIFOM there imo, I think we stay on JJD in nay case.
Also fuck you Rayn I was so instrumental to the suki lynch
On March 01 2014 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: gumshoe first. Wave made people consolidate and drove the discussion. He's cool. I almost forgot. That's right yall BETTA RECOGNIZE 
GG Vivax, I hereby apologize to you wholeheartedly. wp indeed.
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Oh yes, and ##Vote: jarjardrinks
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On March 01 2014 09:05 Holyflare wrote: like, if he didn't rb vivax then he thought vivax wouldn't target him and so thought he would mis-shoot the other people he was thinking about so they are likely to be town too He took a gamble and lost. Mebbe it was what he thought was their only shot at winning?
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On March 01 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:06 gumshoe wrote: Not that it really matters anymore, but I'm the veteran. that is a terrrrrribbbbbleeeeeeeee time to claim wtf??? lol so he's basically confirmed town He assumes we've won already so he pulls a boneheaded claim Lynch into JJD/Chyz/Cavalinho/Ange in that order and we win
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On March 01 2014 09:09 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:On March 01 2014 09:06 gumshoe wrote: Not that it really matters anymore, but I'm the veteran. that is a terrrrrribbbbbleeeeeeeee time to claim wtf??? Yeah, I was just gonna say. There's literally no point to claiming veteran unless you think JJD is town and that we're all just gonna sheep rayn's reads unless you blueclaim. Hmm I didn't actually think of it from that perspective, but I think mine is more likely.
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I can't actually believe they didn't RB vivax. Why risk him killing a town when it means he's confirmed anyway? And they risk the worst case scenario for them which ended up happening. Like...I don't even understand why that's worth the risk when I think about it.
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Now I'm kinda curious will all this blueshit floating around. We got any mason pairs?
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Man this game's gonna be over so fast...wish I signed up for Foundation.
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On March 01 2014 09:17 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote: I can't actually believe they didn't RB vivax. Why risk him killing a town when it means he's confirmed anyway? And they risk the worst case scenario for them which ended up happening. Like...I don't even understand why that's worth the risk when I think about it. My point from before still stands. When suki was in that poor position in the beginning, she was most likely going to get lynched no matter what. If JJD doesn't flip mafia, then the likely mafia was on the suki bandwagon trying to get to and win the endgame. There are plenty of possible mislynch candidates just based on how day 1 went. I actually half expected to get nightkilled, and I'm thankful that Vivax didn't do so. (But maybe because I thought he was town much earlier and said I wouldn't vote him at all. That might have helped.) It had better not come to that. CONSPIRACY THEORY INC I think it may also be super important to mention---if for whatever reason scum did all of this on purpose to see if they could get one guy to carry the entire game, Vivax is the ONLY PERSON right now who is ACTUALLY confirmed town.
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On March 01 2014 09:29 Holyflare wrote:can we lynch geript to stop impending ego?  +1
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On March 01 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +I think it may also be super important to mention---if for whatever reason scum did all of this on purpose to see if they could get one guy to carry the entire game, Vivax is the ONLY PERSON right now who is ACTUALLY confirmed town. but that doesn't make sense though because the fact that toad didn't rb vivax means they didn't want 1 person to reach end game, they wanted to gamble in the hopes of reaching a better position and gambling is what happens in shit spots (which admittedly losing gf day 1 is  ) But look at what I said before: the gamble ITSELF didn't even make sense unless you consider that it's somebody on the suki lynch (or scumteam was just...bad). Oh actually that's not true---they could have been gambling on Toad's copclaim. I wonder if scum knew we don't appear to have one? (ie were told by mods...apparently they are sometimes)
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On March 01 2014 09:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 01 2014 09:29 Holyflare wrote:can we lynch geript to stop impending ego?  +1 I'm still waiting for your apology. I already wrote something, and what it is is as close as you're getting, luv muffin.
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Chyz before Cav imo. I suppose at some point I could read the both of them but care factor is waaaayyy down. Vivax confirmed scum for making town barely care about game anymore 'cause we're doing too well
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Unless of course me you or HF is scum. HF ill be so mad SO MAD (Yet really impressed. Fucking belt)
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