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He first voted suki cause his townreads did that. Then suki voted Mocsta, it was 5 to 4. Aaaand ninjaed by rayn. I'll leave this unfinished ^ | ||
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Went back to look at gumshoe cause of his first post which I commented like this: Me to Mocsta: Not yet, but it's the scenario where a scum gumshoe is most likely to act that way imo. There's always the chance that suki is also scum (and gum picks your side and throws some soft suspicion onto suki to gain cred). I don't think that a scum gumshoe would act that way if you were scum though. On the other hand I'm starting to think that geript and Toad might have been bussing each other just to shit up the thread, which is the trademark of Toad scum play. What was the game again where he and I think VE bussed each other while going for the endgame? | ||
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On February 28 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did they lynch suki over Mocsta? Well geript and Toad didn't. | ||
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On February 28 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: If geript and Toad were mafia geript is basically planning on playing the endgame all by himself. Do you think he can kill people fast enough before they get "confirmed"? I suppose they hoped to get confirmed by bussing each other like that and then having one of them flipped at some point, theoretically giving the remaining guy a ton of cred. | ||
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Only when I claimed he decided to vote for suki. | ||
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Like, he said this at some point: On February 28 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: Sorry, Didn't really see that as a question @ first Well my answer u probably wont like because it involves pre-flip association but here goes: I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread. It also explains his entry into the thead. Like Maybe he sees you jump on her for her posting style and he's all like "Fuck, she's caught already. Lemme go bus a little to try to get something out of this." Like I already pointed out (and you sorta agreed to), your case wasnt very good. And also as you said, nothing seemed to come of it. He threw a vote on her when no one else was voting her and took it off pretty quickly. Now suki flipped scum and JJD gets his confirmation, but doesn't want to write about it. Much like geript not popping out and shouting immediately that Toad is scum for being on the Moc wagon. | ||
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Like, if scum had any hope to deflect that lynch it was by pushing Mocsta. Hard and well before suki got all that attention upon her. JJD preferred gumshoe who was a more unlikely lynch and Mocsta was just kind of a meh vote, so I have my doubts about him being scum. This is a novel argument btw. The one you want me to touch upon is that I think JJD wouldn't go all out and simply call her town when being poked for it. At least there should be some reasoning cause he would know he'd be called out for it later. But I prefer the former points as explanation to this one. | ||
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I guess I'll just shoot him cause no sandwich. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:25 gumshoe wrote: So? If your scum, you claim rb. If your town, you get rbed, scum doesnt shoot you, we do. I'm so glad you feel your doing such a service to town, but your claim literally says nothing about your alignment. | ||
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On February 28 2014 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well tbh your play before and after the claim is like day and night. heh.-- Well as you said I get pissed when people think I am scum and just don't listen to the explanations I give them. That's why I felt so good rubbing it in WoS face that I can't be scum, and asked him how sure he is I'm scum before claiming. Of course you can't know if my claim is true until I shoot or die, but from my perspective I felt untouchable all game long cause of the role I have. | ||
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On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. He claims her post was lighthearted, perhaps I was wrong in saying it was especially crafted, but thier is undeniably an element of 'try' in her initial post, that if not scummy, certainly shouldnt be considered townie. Yet this bilief in her, as I said, is the basis of most of his play so far. Here when confronted about his accusations against Moc, by Moc, he deflects saying I'm the scummy one. He stays this course for a time. Then as attention dies down on me he goes back to Moc. Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. Then when neither of us look like were getting lynched, he goes onto Chyz(flavour of the hour and who coincidentally enough was Suki's target as well) and when Chyz looks like hes not getting lynched he backs off him to. and finally back onto me. Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game. I also completley agree about the people who feel that the thread atmosphere is bad. This is scummy for two reasons, 1: Saying so is useless and does nothing to help town (its also a good excuse for future lurking/flip flopping). 2: Scum, are the only ones who would have that impression (this game is pretty great so far) because they would be able to know if town is onto any of them or not, if none of town are, then the atmosphere will appear to them to be in thier favour therefore bad. Thats the kind of scum slip I can get behind and it's one both suki and Vivax have made. So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him). For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. ##Vote: Jar Jar On February 28 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm starting to suspect that suki may be GSs scumbuddy. It would explain why Gumshoe is trying to paint me in such a bad light for giving her a townread. It also explains his entry into the thead. Like Maybe he sees you jump on her for her posting style and he's all like "Fuck, she's caught already. Lemme go bus a little to try to get something out of this." Like I already pointed out (and you sorta agreed to), your case wasnt very good. And also as you said, nothing seemed to come of it. He threw a vote on her when no one else was voting her and took it off pretty quickly. On February 28 2014 03:54 gumshoe wrote: Where did he claim 0_0. and ultimatly I'm just not going to vote for someone I no longer think is scum, today I will lynch (in this order) Jar, vivax and suki. No one else. After my claim: On February 28 2014 06:08 gumshoe wrote: Oks, I'm totes fine with lynching Suki after this, . Makes me feel pretty certain that Jar was prepping for a red flip on Suki, so yeah I am now confident thier scum together( as opposed to Jar just sheeping her because he knows shes town) and after we lynch suki I can always get Jar via association. ##Unovte ##Vote: Suki Gum's reasoning is super dangly. Like, his whole premise throughout time was that suki JJD and me are scum. Before the claim he started attacking me and had suki as last in his lynch order. After the claim, 6 hours later after the post from JJD he uses as reason, he uses it as justification for voting suki, when it was there well before my claim, yet gumshoe only felt like using it after it was clear I was not getting lynched. | ||
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On February 28 2014 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So gumshoe basically puts himself in a situation where he calls one mafia and one townie scum and there is no way back? I am not sure if this makes sense from scum pov. I don't get this. He didn't want to lynch suki (first) before my claim, JarJar posts that other association thingy, gumshoe doesn't jump on it. He only jumps on it after my claim to use it as his justification for voting suki. It would have been more realistic if he said that he's voting suki cause he can't lynch me or JarJar, not use that shoddy reasoning for it. | ||
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Suspicion on, suspicion off on your scumbuddy. Early bus with no real intent behind it. If he could think of the townie explanation for her behaviour, then what's the point of calling it out. | ||
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At the very least, I think I've earned the right to see Jar Jar die before me and even if I am scum, the sooner he flips the sooner you can kill me for my retarded red play ( : Also this post is just ugh. | ||
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Especially Toad cause he didn't post since deadline. | ||
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