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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:05 Vivax wrote: No but I can tell that you're either awful at reading me or scum. I'm a blue. I was wondering when this was going to come up. So, with only two votes on you right now, you feel it necessary to claim? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:07 Toadesstern wrote: reading your case on vivax, getting angry because of geript, re-reading that whole mocsta bullshit, getting angry again because of geript, putting my vote on geript because he keeps on spouting bullshit, openly claims he won't stop and you people tell me geript is town for being mighty emotional when it's clear that he has planned to play like that for the last 48hours because he WAS GIVEN the chance to cool down and threw it out of the window... I really don't think I'll be able to bring myself to reading anything else tonight with all this shit going on, so if you want my vote on anyone else than geript / mocsta, make sure to explain it like I'm a 5 year old because I won't bother to filterdive. I don't think he's town for being emotional. I even said he's perfectly capable of doing that as scum. I think he's town for playing like an absolute idiot, which he only really seems to do in his town games. (See LXII for example.) I think it would be particularly odd of him to revert to a much older meta of his as scum to try and show us he was town. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:06 Vivax wrote: Yeah I feel threatened and people are either dumb or scum. Well considering the way the votes are going right now, I'm actually inclined to agree. Vivax if you are playing the game (and town), why has almost the entirety of today been solely dedicated to jumping into other people's conversations and asking questions? This looks to me like you are trying to LOOK like you're playing and herding people in no particular direction, thus keeping the pro-scum atmosphere (though I admit this could be a confirmation bias read). Now that I'm back to start pushing, a fakeclaim could be exactly what you need to keep it up. I want to know where other people weigh in on this blueclaim. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote: Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now? I don't necessarily believe it is. The word blue is just a word, Vivax. I see no colours. You may be forcing me not to lynch you now, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be giving you any control. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote: Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now? On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote: I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread. LOL. Really Vivax? You claim and tell me my case is horseshit and as such assume I'm going to move off, and when I insinuate that I might you call me out for it? Good lord. Everything you do continues to fit the scumbill. FOr the record, I don't want to be the guy who lynches the medic. I don't think anyone does, so I'm forced to re-evaluate and see if there's reason for you to be telling the truth. Is that scummy, Vivax? | ||
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On February 28 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote: He's not. Alright I've got the next hour or so. People pushing solo-vote lynches right now need to ask yourselves: have you gained any traction with your case? Are you truly going to gain any in the next few hours? Right now what we have is the perfect scum deadline atmosphere. There is no clear town leader (and as confident as I've been this game I don't tend to fill that position particularly often) and votes are spread out so thinly scum can essentially move wherever they want and lynch whoever they want today. On top of that, we will learn absolutely nothing on flip (ie voting analysis will be basically useless) aside from that person's alignment if everyone stays on the current path. Is that what town wants? We need to figure out 2-3 MOST LIKELY lynch candidates. Preferably before I leave. As it stands off the top of my head I want to say Mocsta/suki/Vivax. You all need to decide where these three fit into your current reads and decide what you want out of the day, and whether you want to hand this lynch to scum or not, as geript seems rife to do. + Show Spoiler + I'm pretty damn sure geript is town but considering how horrible his play has been recently I can honestly say I wouldn't mind a policy, but only as last resort. TL needs to be punishing this shit way more often than it does. Confirmation AND bad association inc. WARNING The bolded is perfect motivation for you to fakeclaim if Moc/suki are both town. Hell, even if only one of them is considering nobody knows where the lynch goes yet today. Hell I don't think there's much downside to you fakeclaiming anyway. Like if it's real why the fuck would you claim so early? ESPECIALLY since I said I'd only be aorund for what now...another 30 min, and other lynches can continue to be pushed in my absence? LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX> PRONTO | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote: Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now? On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote: I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread. Like...this is bad. SO BAD. On February 28 2014 06:18 Vivax wrote: If you put it like that, no. I have a particular aversion towards you in this game for the way you approached me when I declined to give my read on Chyz and how you treated your semi-scumread on gumshoe, then cranking out a textbook case without having the volition to consider other options. Is that scummy to think you're scum under those circumstances? After all you've been one of the few, if not the only one to interpret me withholding the Chyz opinion as scummy. So you're admitting to bias against me then? Because that's about the only way those two posts you made could possibly be reconciled. You either want me to move off of you or you don't VIvax. Gumshoe and JJD, shut up and comment on something relevant, otherwise let it be noted what you found to be important around deadline. I appreciate the voteswitch gumshoe but again, I want input. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:22 Ange777 wrote: Can someone link me to the case on geript? Or tell me by whom was it? There are cases I think but to me it's more of a 'do we policy him or not,' kinda deal because again I pretty firmly believe he's town. Rayn, you really need to be here right now. Holy, what's your call? Should I sheep you or stick to Vivax? | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Well I didn't think he was scum before the claim so not much to add about my own read. I will say that I don't get how anyone that thought he was scum before would drop their read simply because he claimed blue. Do you think it was necessary for him to claim blue when he did? Why did you think he was town, JJD? | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:25 Holyflare wrote: this is slightly frustrating because everything he's done has been leading up to this play I love you so much right now AND I SWEAR IF YOU'RE PULLING A HF-->VE ON ME RIGHT NOW I'MA BE SO MAD AT YOU | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:25 Vivax wrote: Ange7 asked who else is up for lynch, not who else I would lynch, and I would say quite a bit of people want to lynch him. This is technically true, but again I believe if we resort to it we are resigning ourselves to lynching town. On purpose. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:26 Vivax wrote: Also there's somebody I didn't call out as scummy yet, but I've become somewhat confident that he is over time. It's HF. See, this is not a good time for that, and you KNOW that. Why must you consistently hold back information? | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:27 Holyflare wrote: *pat* *pat* how is it exactly you and gumshoe KNOW there are rb'ers in this game? Oh come on, now. | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:26 Vivax wrote: Also there's somebody I didn't call out as scummy yet, but I've become somewhat confident that he is over time. It's HF. And yeah, no. Pretty sure HF isn't scum either. I just played with him and while this may allow him into my head somewhat, there are things in his play that just don't come from a HF who has rolled scum what, 6/8 times now? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Like...gumshoe has a point in that the damage may have already been done if he is blue, but I still don't want to be that guy. HF I'll ask you again, do I stay or vote suki right now? Considering you're already voting for her you should be pretty comfortable with telling me to move over, no? Why haven't you? Like...if you thought suki was a better lynch BEFORE all this came up, why wouldn't she be now? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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I really wish I had read suki in more detail I hate sheeping I could totally go off 'feels' though 'cause I'm notoriously bad at reading newbies and I called her town right off the bat. Given my track record she should totally be scum  | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:33 JarJarDrinks wrote: Assumming he is blue I think the timing was ok. It does seem like he does have a good chance of being lynched and making the claim well before the deadline helps make sure we aren't scrambling last minute. I've said all game that he's null for me, slightly leaning town because of associations. I just haven't thougt the stuff he's been accussed of is scummy like people were making it out to be. What? First of all, STOP the fucking associations. Second, I specifically outlined how the things he did come from a scum mindset/agenda. Many things he has done this game can also be seen as such. If you thought my case wasn't good, why didn't you comment on it at the time? | ||
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On February 28 2014 06:34 Vivax wrote: Vote mocsta bitches. If scum wanted to push a lynch on mocsta they'd be doing that and not leaving him untouched all this fucking time. SO much WIFOM here. Fucking claim. ##Unvote ##Vote: Suki It's entirely possible I'm getting herded here, but I don't have much choice as I'm almost out of time (save for the odd phonepost MAYBE). At the very least Rayn/HF are on it so I feel ok. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:44 Vivax wrote: This suki wagon piles up so quickly that it doesn't look particularly clean. And if people had switched ot Mocsta instead it would be? I put three names on the table, you took one of them off. What exactly did you expect? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 28 2014 06:49 Vivax wrote: Hey gum. Presuming a scum suki, do you see this coming from scum? lol...it's a good point but all this says to me is "SCUMVAX SAYS EVERYONE ON SUKI = SCUM AND EVERYONE ON MOCSTA= TOWN" I need a break. | ||
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