EPT[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot - Page 9
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On February 10 2014 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Jay town because I feel like he wouldnt really have such a long explanation for being afk. Does not = town. How does that mean he's town? Because he typed a paragraph? Seriously? | ||
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Can you comment on the other things he's done and why that makes him town? Or why anything scummy he has done is cancelled out by a single post explaining an afk? | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote: Jay is scummy scum scum. Although he seems to really believe in this. The thing with his case on Koshi is that you cant make the case 3 hours into day 1. It doesnt work, not enough evidence. But is it too bad to be scum? Still making up my mind on that. Wafflingggg On February 07 2014 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote: BUT HE WROTE IT PREGAME. LIKE YOU DONT TALK ABOUT PREGAME DURING THE GAME DO YOU? ##vote Jay On February 07 2014 12:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Jay are you gonna do something else day 1? I think we've heard enough about your case, dunno why Balla asks us to stop then he continues pressuring you. On February 07 2014 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote: so then this was a lie? So basically you think JayB is scum because he made a case longer than 2 sentences. Why is it more scummy if someone tunnels early? Didnt I tunnel early against koshi off pretty much nothing and I was town? You are doing the exact same thing as last game. I guess either you didnt learn anything or you are scum trying to play to your previous town meta. What about JayB's scumhunting was forced and contrived? The only defense of Jay I see is a chainsaw defense of him by attacking suki. On February 10 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno man, I really dont feel like putting in the effort to do something that doesnt lead to us lynching scum. How do you not get this? You're being scummy, I would lynch you over this. If you aren't helping me to understand why you give jay a free pass then you are NOT leading us to lynching scum if you are town. Because I would lynch you, and you would be town and you did nothing to make me think you were not scum. | ||
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Don't get me wrong here, I don't agree with your town read at all. I think jay is town, but your reasoning is non-existent to me. Seriously. What do you make of his vote at the deadline? What do you make of his reaction early? What do you make of his interactions with jonny? There's so much that you seem to just be ignoring because he had a decent post explaining an afk? What is that? | ||
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On February 10 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote: you agree with my townread = you think jay is town too. Also this shit is so easy to fake. If Im scum right? So I know jay is town, so I can make up so much shit. If it's fake it's still something you have to take responsibility for. If a scum makes a town read up then they have to defend that and explain their reasoning, then they have to stand by it or explain reasoning for not standing by it. | ||
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##vote Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + Yes I am acting purely out of anger, so infuriating that someone is just not going to put any effort into explaining what he's thinking. We'll see what I think when I come back. | ||
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On February 10 2014 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote: So you are aware you are tilted but still think that im scum? Look at my scumreads then, if you are so infuriated that Im not gonna copy paste your reasoning on why jay is town. Me tilting has nothing to do with whether you are actually scummy or not and everything to do with the fact that you were just straight up annoying me. Now (and this is for my own statisfaction and lulz), now that TL Mafia LXIV: The Restart has ended, I have the ability to use complete information about Oats. That makes 3 town games in a row and puts him right up there with Aquanim, Jonnylaw and Alakaslam as likely mafia. (I just think it will be really funny if I nail 2 mafia with this). Actually I think I might have messed this up in the first place and it should have been up there already. I used PYP even though he had rolled in shadowed, LXIV #1 and smb. I don't want to hard push Oats yet, but there is a case to be had in the near future, I want to see other people stuff first. Like hopeless' promised answers to my question, and stuff from coag and sidesprang. | ||
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On February 10 2014 12:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Johnny law is likely mafia? wow. Also aqua? wow. I'm referring to my first post of the game, silly ^_^ | ||
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On February 10 2014 12:53 Hopeless1der wrote: 1) jayb still has horrific cases on koshi in his filter and an overall uninspired day1. Just because Jonny did it too doesn't make jayb less scummy-looking. It does have the unfortunate side-effect of making it seem improbable that jayb will actually flip scum but I'll be damned if I say he looks like sunshine and rainbows. 2) Because everybody else consists of a herd of moo cows 3) My point is that ANYONE who voted Jonny is possible scum since an outspoken push on getting Jonny lynched could have been made with full knowledge of his alignment. The fact that I think jayb/suki are scummier than the group of me/oats/coag does not infer that jayb/suki are scummier than aqua/lonemeow/sidesprang/you (although you do look town king balla, so you've got that going for you) Ok for point 3 I think you just mis-read what I said then, cause I just never said that I don't think mafia bussed, and I wasn't assuming anything like "mafia wouldn't bus, or mafia would bus" I was just looking at likely situations. On February 10 2014 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote: jay town suki scum. They both arent scum. Jay town because I feel like he wouldnt really have such a long explanation for being afk. suki scum for pushing jay when she got no support the whole day. Oats who besides suki do you have as scum? | ||
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##unvote ##vote sidesprang | ||
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On February 12 2014 02:42 Hopeless1der wrote: This should apply to blue/setup hunting too... was a mistake ya dolt! There was good reason for asking until I realized not everyone gets a notification like I was expecting. | ||
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Starting with coagulation: There are simply put, only 3 reasons to be lynching Coag here: 1. Slam looked scummy. 2. He's didn't post any reasoning on JonnyLaw even when asked. 3. You don't like how coag plays. The only people who have posted meta about Coag have all been defending him. I will do more of that here with no real analysis cause the difference in Coag's town play vs mafia play is pretty pronounced at least when I read it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439578&user=Coagulation - Town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&user=Coagulation - Town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&user=Coagulation - Mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Coagulation - Mafia In his mafia games he barely talks about the game and just posts random stuff. His town games he posts stuff that talk about people's alignments, he gives some reasoning for stuff. He's doing that here. Oats is right I think. Now sidesprang: His main contribution for n1/d2 has been how people how people interacted with Jonny. One of his major lynch points for Coag and Oats (the two people he has voted for today) has been that they had no reasoning for voting jonny: On February 10 2014 19:13 sidesprang wrote: I put Oats over Coag because I think its more likely that he will flip scum. Both Coag and Slam have a pretty unreadable play for me atleast. The only really scummy point is that Slam did not talk about Jonny at all even tho he was one of the two leading scum lynches when he entered the thread. But hey neither did Oats or Hopeless, they just did a cheap vote on him. Of course it dont make you scum, but it's clear scumpoints in my book atleast. I totally would not mind a Coag lynch either, because I think he will be an issue for the rest of the game. Untill he is dead we will always wonder, he wont do shit to clear himself. But he will do this as either allignment which is why I prefer to lynch oats. Just check Titanic II, there he gets replaced in, does jack shit, gets modkilled (from getting tl.net ban). However if you look at his reasoning, it's pretty freaking weak too. It's basically just a sheep of me/Aqua. He didn't really mention Jonny at all beforehand and it seems his thought process was actually similar to all 3 of them yet he's trying to call them out on it. Another thing I don't like, that I believe LoneMeow has said as well: On February 11 2014 17:18 sidesprang wrote: 1. Alakaslam did not look good. 2. Coag will be disruptive to the town for the rest of the game, just see page 63 3. Coag will be unreadable and dangerous as either alignment for town in LYLO. I don't plan to get to LYLO at all. It's really a cop-out reasoning for trying to kill lynchbait and actually a weird thing to say. Have you ever seen Coag play in LYLO? Also on #1: On February 09 2014 02:41 sidesprang wrote: Alakaslam: I buy that he has been busy with work and whatnot. As I don't think scum!slam would lurk in any way I dont see a reason for lying about it. That being said I dont think his enterance is very good. Starts by complaining about how Balla / Suki trolled early game, which has been pointed out is something he is very capable aswell. And it was obviously something that was prewritten before Balla got the roles. Why bring that shit up again, its a null tell. His points are just fluff. He then says he is going to try some filters, but looks like he only read JayB, maybe the easiest one to pick on at the time. @Slam Did you read up on the rest of the players? Do you got any other reads? What are your thoughts on Jonny? You defended Alakaslam here a bit, and then took a null stance on the rest. This doesn't look like you thought he looked bad. Also, why aren't you pushing for Suki at all, you've been calling her scummy all night and day yet now when lynch time comes you're gone onto Oats and Coag where you even put Suki in the middle of them. Anyways. This day still sucks | ||
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