On February 09 2014 10:09 Balla24 wrote:Let's discuss the reasoning behind something that Jonny did this game.
Here is his case on Koshi on his return to the thread:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2014 17:46 JonnyLaw wrote:koshi is our scum #1 in this game.
Sheeping Balla off the start. I pointed out that Jay did this last game and it bought Jay a lot of town points in balla's mind.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is indeed town so I am going to beleive Balla his theory.
Balla let's get a town circle going.
Excuses. Excuses. Fucking Excuses.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Heads up. I always make shit cases.
I have made 2 good cases in the 16 games I played.
True story.
Why can no one call him scum and where is the posting like a madman?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:33 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
That post is worse than Koshi's opening post. how bored were you waiting for this game to start?
Fuck man, I was happy last game thinking you were prob town. You're making me go back to my roots here.
Jonny. Come on. It was a joke post. No need to exaggerate.
Heads up for you: When I am town, I post like a fucking madman. You are allowed to stop me if it is too much. Because I think you are special. Instead you are never allowed to call me scum. Deal?
I hate this entire series of posts. Anyone who's not joking around is scum? Get the fuck outta here.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:45 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:44 JonnyLaw wrote:On February 07 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 07:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Votes are like assholes in this game. Give the man a minute. It's day1 lets sit around and chat a while.
What topic?
I was talking about tunneling jayb. Apparently that's off topic.
How about aqua. Have you played with him before?
How do you feel about random votes being tossed around?
Probably but I don't remember aquanim atm. :/
Random votes are what they are. JayB has not commented on them at all. Even though he is joking around about last game, he cannot make a joking comment on the 2 votes that are on him. I find that interesting.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.
you feel off.
Uhh where's the scum hunting?
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
The kid with the lollipop is when I roll scum.
It goes like this:
I see scum PM, I am very angry --> I pretend to be really happy in the thread.
But this game it went like this:
I AM FUCKING TOWN HELL FUCKING YEAH --> I don't have to pretend shit and I simply scumhunt.
Currently I am looking at Jonny and JayB.
Why am I not looking at Balla atm? Because isn't it more likely Balla is scum and I am being blindfolded?
Good question but no!
Balla posts about current topics, his posts influence how I think and are well thought out and he posts carefree and townylike. I just like everything about him.
And I really dislike you 2 atm. JayB is shaking in his boots and Jonny you just left the thread as soon as JayB got attention.
##unvote
##vote: JonnyLaw
Let it be known.
And another post threatening the power of town koshi. Unleash it already.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
You do realize I will be having a 40 page filter if you continue to push this read? It won't be pretty.
Take a step back jay.
We need fresh eyes.
This reminds Koshi of his "off feelings' about town jayb last game? I don't understand.
Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 17:43 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2014 17:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi Koshi. I'll give you balla case soon hopefully. I was rereading it and my dog just shit diarrhea all over my carpet in my room. Pics if you want. I hate this game. So drink and tired and now dog shit everywhere. Anyway, i'll be with you soon. I have a few hours before I need to work.
That part is "off".
That reminds me of people wanting to know about my off feeling from jayB.
From what I remember:
I was reading his post and I was thinking "well, this post feels somewhat constructed. But ok." and then Balla voted for the guy and I was like "yeah let's get this party starting."
But I think the main reason for typing that post was to bait a reaction. Which I got, and I think the reaction with the smiley in the end was the reason we are were we are atm on jayB. It gave me (/us) bad vibes.
I don't want to talk too much about jayB anymore though. I will read him when he comes back.
Seriously this is getting worse and worse for me.
I'll do the rest tomorrow.
##vote KoshiI'm around for a few minutes to chat.
At this point in the game, there are a few lynch candidates. Alakaslam, Jonny, JayB and possibly Koshi. Out of these 3 for jonny, I believe that Alakaslam would have been the easiest to push. Koshi was reading town or just null to a bunch of people. So why does he decide to push for Koshi instead of for Alakaslam, or maybe even JayB who both already had a case or two on them and there was plenty of material to pick at.
I see 3 options:
1) Alakaslam and/or Jayb are his scummates and thus he does not want to push them, so he pushes another target.
2) He did not want to push either of those two because he would have been criticized for easy pickings and an easy lynch.
3) Koshi is his scummate, jonny knows he's going to get lynched so he tries to make Koshi look as best as possible before that happens.
Let's examine them:
1) holds credence mostly for Slam because Jonny never mentions Slam one bit except for this post, where he calls him scum, but doesn't push him.
Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 17:49 JonnyLaw wrote:
Uhh I called you scum? that's about it. No but I'm still not convinced. I don't have any clear town votes yet.
koshi, slam and lm for scum. koshi for content and lm slam for lurking.
rest neutral. i'm bad at finding town. i can find scum though.
If he thinks he's scum, then wouldn't Slam be a MUCH better target to try to deflect off of? On the other end of things. Alakaslam never got to mention jonny a single time before he replaced out, and his replacement Coag did not do much better. Although he did mention something that I think Jonny did, but he said Jay for some reason, can't really verify that though.
For Jaybrundage, there's some connection in the early game, where Jonny says he thinks what he's done is scummy, but then doesn't really thinks he's scum. But they reacted much in the same way as each other during that early game, which I don't think two scummates would do that. And they talked about each other a LOT early on, which again, scummates tend to try to avoid on day1 if they can help it.
2) could be a possibility, but there were a variety of cases on alakaslam at that point (mine included), so I think it would have been worth it to try to push it and try to people to wagon onto alakaslam instead of him. Honestly I think that would have been one of his few chances to survive.
3) This is another good possibility with how fake some of the jonny-> koshi interactions look. However, if this were to be the case. I believe Jonny would have had less of a motivation to post more, and it would have made more sense if he just straight up disappeared completely but he actually looked like he had the intention to try to get koshi lynched.
On the other side of this, we have Koshi calling him scum from literally the getgo of this game. I'm pretty sure Koshi put his vote on Jonny within like 2 hours of the game starting and left it there the entire day. That's pretty crazy for scummates, so I think this option is completely out the window for the most part.
All these options are things I will be considering though, and I highly believe that #1 is the situation that occured.
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